Dairy chit chat II

Sam Kade · 20-02-2017 11:09PM

Just listening to a man on the radio that's retired form farming. He lost his arm when his coat got caught in the pto shaft of a slurry tank at 35. He still managed to carry on milking his 35 cows with one hand.

Fixture · 21-02-2017 07:33AM

Jez Aidan Brennan in IFJ really needs to get out of Moorepark more. His latest piece on IFJ website talks about "90% of cows calved in 6 weeks".

Does that apply to even 3% of readers??

Wildsurfer · 21-02-2017 07:58AM

Fixture wrote: »

Jez Aidan Brennan in IFJ really needs to get out of Moorepark more. His latest piece on IFJ website talks about "90% of cows calved in 6 weeks".

Does that apply to even 3% of readers??

At 60% here in 3 weeks so hope to be not too far off that target. A lot of heifers still coming in so probably helping me to reach that figure. Hols Fr herd herd but breeding for fertility last few years. 10 week breeding season. It's a busy few weeks but sur every one calved is one closer to me getting a full nights sleep again!

blackdog1 · 21-02-2017 09:01AM

Fixture wrote:

Jez Aidan Brennan in IFJ really needs to get out of Moorepark more. His latest piece on IFJ website talks about "90% of cows calved in 6 weeks".

Moorepark tend to bring all there first Calvers to one farm so I'd read that with a pinch of salt.

mahoney_j · 21-02-2017 11:10AM

Fixture wrote: »

Jez Aidan Brennan in IFJ really needs to get out of Moorepark more. His latest piece on IFJ website talks about "90% of cows calved in 6 weeks".

Does that apply to even 3% of readers??

No problem with that and no reason why it can't be achievable ,I'm hitting over 80% last few years in 6 weeks .the more cows you can calve in first 6 weeks is more milk solids sold

kowtow · 21-02-2017 11:28AM

Ah sure last year we had 100% calved in 44 days to a bull barely six months old.

No empties.

I should ask Aidan for a badge.

Keepgrowing · 21-02-2017 12:05PM

kowtow wrote: »

Ah sure last year we had 100% calved in 44 days to a bull barely six months old.

No empties.

I should ask Aidan for a badge.

ROTFL

3 the square · 21-02-2017 02:28PM

any one know is there a grant going for a new plate cooler ??
I think there about 3 grand for double stage one new

kowtow · 21-02-2017 02:43PM

3 the square wrote: »

any one know is there a grant going for a new plate cooler ??
I think there about 3 grand for double stage one new

What's the difference between the single stage and the double stage, i.e. how do they work? Are there two separate cold water circuits?

3 the square · 21-02-2017 02:50PM

kowtow wrote: »

What's the difference between the single stage and the double stage, i.e. how do they work? Are there two separate cold water circuits?

ya it a serious way to cool milk and milk would be down
to 4 when it goes into the tank

Buford T. Justice XIX · 21-02-2017 03:17PM

kowtow wrote: »

What's the difference between the single stage and the double stage, i.e. how do they work? Are there two separate cold water circuits?

A single stage has only one cooling flow, a two stage normally had water and a flow from an icebank to cool the milk after the water has cooled it down some bit.

I'm hoping to put in a 2 stage plate cooler with two water sources for cooling this year, milk hitting the tank at 26 degrees at peak:(

MF290 · 21-02-2017 09:20PM

Brown Podzol wrote: »

Is there any hope that bird flue would do for crows what myxomatosis did for rabbits. I have every f'n crow in Munster eating and sh1tting at the maize pit or in the head feed.

and starlings while you're at it...

whelan2 · 21-02-2017 09:35PM

freedominacup wrote: »

She's under as much pressure as any of us atm. I was having a fcuking meltdown today with reg problems and she got me squared away in no time. A young one in progressive got a serious rocket at one stage. Just don't need the tech letting you down when there's a lot of registrations to be done in a limited time. Nothing will get away in you faster than calf reg if you don't keep on top of it. Both of the women on support from ifc are very good.

I think I am having a problem now too, something about a pool being full, was that your problem?

cute geoge · 21-02-2017 09:53PM

kowtow wrote: »

What's the difference between the single stage and the double stage, i.e. how do they work? Are there two separate cold water circuits?

Could 2 single stage plate coolers do the same job?
In fact i know some single stage coolers can be converted to 2 stage by fitting a special plate in the middle the plates .Extra plates might also be needed and both ends would need the blanks drilled out

Buford T. Justice XIX · 21-02-2017 09:58PM

cute geoge wrote: »

Could 2 single stage plate coolers do the same job?
In fact i know some single stage coolers can be converted to 2 stage by fitting a special plate in the middle the plates .Extra plates might also be needed and both ends would need the blanks drilled out

They can but the size of the milk outlet of the first has to match the milk inlet of the second.

cute geoge · 21-02-2017 10:04PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

A single stage has only one cooling flow, a two stage normally had water and a flow from an icebank to cool the milk after the water has cooled it down some bit.

I'm hoping to put in a 2 stage plate cooler with two water sources for cooling this year, milk hitting the tank at 26 degrees at peak:(

Could you not use the ice water ,if you have an ice bank tank ?
I think well water is the only other suitable solution for a plate cooler

Buford T. Justice XIX · 21-02-2017 10:09PM

cute geoge wrote: »

Could you not use the ice water ,if you have an ice bank tank ?
I think well water is the only other suitable solution for a plate cooler

No ice bank just a DX tank. We're looking at a few different solutions to getting the temp down more, just waiting for a few figures to see if it economical this year to go ahead.

cute geoge · 21-02-2017 10:14PM

My problem is i will need an small over flow tank for a few months .I was thinking of picking up a small dx tank and pumping the ice water to it has anyone tried similar

freedominacup · 21-02-2017 10:22PM

whelan2 wrote: »

I think I am having a problem now too, something about a pool being full, was that your problem?

It was one of them but i think that's on the dept end. System basically overloaded. I'd say that drop in the registrations is made up now.

whelan2 · 21-02-2017 10:23PM

freedominacup wrote: »

It was one of them but i think that's on the dept end. System basically overloaded. I'd say that drop in the registrations is made up now.

Worked for me eventually

Mooooo · 22-02-2017 08:35AM

Hear in the radio there glanbia are planning to bring the agribusiness and consumer foods into the joint venture

Buford T. Justice XIX · 22-02-2017 08:56AM

Mooooo wrote: »

Hear in the radio there glanbia are planning to bring the agribusiness and consumer foods into the joint venture

Glanbia to sell 60pc of Dairy Ireland business to 'Co-op' for €112m

http://www.independent.ie/business/farming/agri-business/glanbia-to-sell-60pc-of-dairy-ireland-business-to-coop-for-112m-35472042.html

kowtow · 22-02-2017 09:47AM

freedominacup wrote: »

It was one of them but i think that's on the dept end. System basically overloaded. I'd say that drop in the registrations is made up now.

Freedom your inbox is stuck at the hips:

"freedominacup has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space."

Doctor Shivering · 22-02-2017 09:58AM

Looks like a housekeeping change with no real impact for farmers except maybe to reformalise the relationship between milk and trading
The same decisions are likely to be made on price versus corporate profits until the plc ditches its share of GIIL entirely
That will happen eventually
I've always thought Glanbia farmers to be a progressive bunch who are trustworthy in deciding more fairly the mix of price versus retained profit than the current stockbroker biased entity
They're not going to bust the business whilst at the same time not going to screw themselves on price

So I'm broadly in favour of this next incremental step
The share spinout seems to be worth approximately half of the 2015 one on an individual farmer basis
I think it was freedom in a cup who first flagged something like this being imminent only a month or so ago on this forum,so he's a good source for scoops

stanflt · 22-02-2017 11:36AM

3 the square wrote: »

ya it a serious way to cool milk and milk would be down
to 4 when it goes into the tank

Just finishing milking here- milk collected this am

stanflt · 22-02-2017 11:50AM

stanflt wrote: »

Just finishing milking here- milk collected this am

And a bit of volume too

Pic of ice builder

blackdog1 · 22-02-2017 12:35PM

stanflt wrote:

And a bit of volume too

stanflt wrote:

Pic of ice builder

Ice builders are excellent for cooling but are they more economic than plate coolers? How much of a saving do you get?

stanflt · 22-02-2017 01:03PM

blackdog1 wrote: »

Ice builders are excellent for cooling but are they more economic than plate coolers? How much of a saving do you get?

I've both

Since I put in bigger ice builder last summer I'm saving 600 a month on esb

Bi monthly esb bills have halved

Doctor Shivering · 22-02-2017 01:17PM

stanflt wrote: »

I've both

Since I put in bigger ice builder last summer I'm saving 600 a month on esb

Bi monthly esb bills have halved

Christ on a bike,I've had one plus plate cooler since 1999 at a similar size to you,so I've saved 7200x18 or €129,600
Wow ...

stanflt · 22-02-2017 01:27PM

Doctor Shivering wrote: »

Christ on a bike,I've had one plus plate cooler since 1999 at a similar size to you,so I've saved 7200x18 or €129,600
Wow ...

Doesn't work like that my smart arsed friend

Old tank was only 5.5k litres and was running 2 of them- was completely defrosting the ice in one of them during milking as it was connected to plate cooler

Should of mentioned this but didn't think people would have been that naive

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