Riots in the Parisian suburbs

Banana Republican · 16-02-2017 10:54PM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

They would claim it is her responsibility since allegedly the police vote for the far right. Her actions are therefore contributing to the unrest in the country. Undeniably their is an element of outsiders causing this i reckon ISIS or other subversive groups are staging this violent uprisings.

So it's "undeniable" is it? Come on this is complete and utter scumbag thuggery from these idiots. It's not organised by ISIS or anyone else that's pure fantasy stuff.

Banana Republican · 16-02-2017 10:58PM

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

But its not, because the police have decided not to charge their member be cause it was "an accident" sic.

Then people should organise massive peaceful protests in response that's how democracy works in western society. Violence isn't the answer. Hard working shop owners, car owners etc.. are having their property destroyed by these p ric ks.

IvyTheTerrible · 16-02-2017 10:59PM

Banana Republican wrote: »

Then people should organise massive peaceful protests in response that's how democracy works in western society. Violence isn't the answer. Hard working shop owners, car owners etc.. are having their property destroyed by these p ric ks.

There WERE big peaceful protests but some violent elements hijacked them. The violence didn't start straightaway. It's 10 days since the incident happened.

KingBrian2 · 16-02-2017 11:01PM

Banana Republican wrote: »

So it's "undeniable" is it? Come on this is complete and utter scumbag thuggery from these idiots. It's not organised by ISIS or anyone else that's pure fantasy stuff.

ISIS did say they want to infiltrate the west and cause chaos now this is all exaggeration we know that we also know ISIS sleeper agents and Jihadi's are concentrating on attacking Europe & America and stop Muslims, Jews & Christians of Europe from living and working side by side.

KingBrian2 · 16-02-2017 11:03PM

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

There WERE big peaceful protests but some violent elements hijacked them. The violence didn't start straightaway. It's 10 days since the incident happened.

The peaceful protests don't get the attention. Gandhi and Mother Theresa took a long time to get their message across.

Grayson · 16-02-2017 11:15PM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

The peaceful protests don't get the attention. Gandhi and Mother Theresa took a long time to get their message across.

Were they in ISIS as well?

Banana Republican · 16-02-2017 11:43PM

Grayson wrote: »

Were they in ISIS as well?

This must have been ISIS also. From last year.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/02/pictured-huge-migrant-brawl-in-paris/

MightyMandarin · 16-02-2017 11:55PM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

ISIS did say they want to infiltrate the west and cause chaos now this is all exaggeration we know that we also know ISIS sleeper agents and Jihadi's are concentrating on attacking Europe & America and stop Muslims, Jews & Christians of Europe from living and working side by side.

Funny that you say that, since Le Pen, Wilders, Trump and all of these right wing clowns want the same thing. In fact, Le Pen pledged to get rid of same-sex marriage (#87 there) so that's two things themselves and ISIS can agree on.

It's amazing that these seemingly polar-opposite groups actually have a lot in common. I guess that's what happens when you get a bunch of hateful people to convince a bunch of idiots to follow your ideology of hate.

PowerToWait · 17-02-2017 12:44AM

I lived in and around Paris for long spells in the late '80s to late '90s and from my experience these things are neither new nor uncommon.

French police I'd say are as right wing as Italian or Spanish police. Blatant racist profiling was rampant and immigrants were routinely abused and beaten on a whim. I can't see that having changed much.

A very close friend of mine is a teacher in a town in the southern suburbs. The people living there are essentially trapped, stigmatised and almost exclusively 1st or 2nd generation immigrant families with very little opportunity to assimilate or ameliorate their lot.

Resentment will build and bubble over in situations such as anal rape of a citizen by the police.

wakka12 · 17-02-2017 01:10AM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

Agreed if they did what they are being accused of. Taking your action on the entire police force for the actions of one or a number of officers is taking the situation to extreme. Enter politics but to engage in wanton violence automatically disqualifies you. What did the business owners and fellow French citizens do to have to experience this rioters behaviour.

Generally Im against it but Im in support of these protests/riots in this case. Its astounding than a man capable of that was hired and placed in a position where he is supposed to keep the public safe. Very justified in this case imo

KingBrian2 · 17-02-2017 01:15AM

wakka12 wrote: »

Generally Im against it but Im in support of these protests/riots in this case. Its astounding than a man capable of that was hired and placed in a position where he is supposed to keep the public safe. Very justified in this case imo

Your in favour of the rioting. I don't know how any one can be in favour of people rioting. The situation is eerily similar to the west bank and now we have posters MightyMandarin comparing Trump & Geert Wilders to ISIS who have publicly beheaded people and practice forced marriages. The solution would be to shut down the Front National and prescribe it a terrorist organisation.

wakka12 · 17-02-2017 01:19AM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

Your in favour of the rioting. I don't know how any one can be in favour of people rioting. The situation is eerily similar to the west bank and now we have posters MightyMandarin comparing Trump & Geert Wilders to ISIS who have publicly beheaded people and practice forced marriages. The solution would be to shut down the Front National and prescribe it a terrorist organisation.

yeh sometimes I am in support of riots, often with these things nobody listens and no change will come about unless violence is used.

milehip · 17-02-2017 01:21AM

Banana Republican wrote: »

It isnt a "few violent protesters". Watch the online videos it's hundreds of scumbags out to cause criminal damage and attacking the police. There is zero excuse for that. They are scum.

Very apt username.

Grayson · 17-02-2017 02:10AM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

Your in favour of the rioting. I don't know how any one can be in favour of people rioting. The situation is eerily similar to the west bank and now we have posters MightyMandarin comparing Trump & Geert Wilders to ISIS who have publicly beheaded people and practice forced marriages. The solution would be to shut down the Front National and prescribe it a terrorist organisation.

I wasn't sure at first but then I looked up eerily in the dictionary.

eerily
ee·rie or ee·ry (îr′ē)
adj. ee·ri·er, ee·ri·est
1. Absolutely nothing like.
2. So distantly related as to be impossible to compare to.
[Middle English eri, distant, from Old English earg, opposite.]

Spot on.

Edit: facetiousness aside, if there's a comparison then it's to black lives matter or Rodney King. You have a segment of the population which is both poor and feels victimised by the police. Something like this happens and you get a reaction from the population and you can expect some of them to be violent. In many ways the events are very similar to Rodney King or the riots in London a few years ago. It starts out as protests. Some protesters turn violent and then it's taken over by people rioting, burning and looting, many of whom have very little interest in the original case.

suicide_circus · 17-02-2017 05:27AM

This policeman is literally a sodomite.

Banana Republican · 17-02-2017 08:04AM

wakka12 wrote: »

yeh sometimes I am in support of riots, often with these things nobody listens and no change will come about unless violence is used.

Disgraceful comment. So the hard working shop owners and people who bought cars/motorbikes etc.. that these animals are destroying will just have to accept the violence?? The police have imo shown great restraint with these scumbags. :mad:

Your Face · 17-02-2017 08:33AM

This will play nicely into the anti-imigration lobby.

weldoninhio · 17-02-2017 09:29AM

DredFX wrote: »

From the UK Independent, since the Internet has apparently picked an apt time to have dodgy links:

Police brutality, met with brutality. The usual song and dance.

I hate when you go out to protest something and you end up coming home with a looted 42" tv.

EndaHonesty · 17-02-2017 09:40AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

This policeman is literally a sodomite.

You obviously don't know what the words literally or sodomite mean!

Lovely Bloke · 17-02-2017 09:41AM

Protests are fine, and god knows a young lad having a truncheon shoved up his jacksie is reason enough to take to the streets to protest against police brutality, but when they become criminal damage of people's livelihoods then they become the actions of a scumbag mob.

What have shop owners, private citizens who own cars and property, business people done to deserve their property and businesses being destroyed and looted?

Anyone being an apologist for that needs to take a long hard look at themselves.

It's no surprise which side of the political spectrum those of you who are defending these actions are coming from. More proof, if it were even needed, of the rise of the fascist left.

sbsquarepants · 17-02-2017 09:43AM

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

The riots are because a cop raped a guy with his baton, and when questioned said the the guys pants fell down in the scuffle and his baton " accidentally" penetrated him and caused a 4 inch tear. Now whatever you think about immigration into France, I think that counts as a problem of policing.

This is like something some handle bar mustache sporting fruit cake in assless leather chaps would tell the triage nurse at 3am.

How exactly do you accidently shove a police baton up someones arse. It's a fúcking ridiculous explanation!

red ears · 17-02-2017 09:43AM

This will help le pen no end. The policeman should be tried. But nobody is justified in rioting.

sbsquarepants · 17-02-2017 09:53AM

Lovely Bloke wrote: »

Protests are fine, and god knows a young lad having a truncheon shoved up his jacksie is reason enough to take to the streets to protest against police brutality, but when they become criminal damage of people's livelihoods then they become the actions of a scumbag mob.
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I think with any of these large scale riots, it's a 3 thirds mix of people feeling generally aggrieved and venting their spleen, general scumbags and opportunist criminal types taking the chance to do a bit of looting, all whipped up and spurred on by your forever victimised activist types, who lets face it would demand action if the powers that be went door to door handing out kittens and chocolate.

Nobody hears of someone being raped and thinks, you know what I'm so angry I'm going to rob a telly and burn a corner shop.

R P McMurphy · 17-02-2017 10:00AM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I think with any of these large scale riots, it's a 3 thirds mix of people feeling generally aggrieved and venting their spleen, general scumbags and opportunist criminal types taking the chance to do a bit of looting, all whipped up and spurred on by your forever victimised activist types, who lets face it would demand action if the powers that be went door to door handing out kittens and chocolate.

Nobody hears of someone being raped and thinks, you know what I'm so angry I'm going to rob a telly and burn a corner shop.

When you have the police themselves saying that nothing wrong has occurred you are going to get a backlash. When you have people living in ghettos and feeling victimised by the police, that backlash is going to turn violent.

sbsquarepants · 17-02-2017 10:23AM

Of course.
Mob mentality can lead to crazy behaviour. Police have an awful lot to answer for in this case. The initial assault was bad enough, but the explanation is nothing short of disgraceful. There should be criminal charges against the perpetrator.
You just can't expect people to have respect for a police force that behaves like that.

Flint Fredstone · 17-02-2017 10:29AM

Should we expect large scale rioting here if nothing comes of the McCabe tribunal?

moneymad · 17-02-2017 10:33AM

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

Should we expect large scale rioting here if nothing comes of the McCabe tribunal?

We don't have the backbone and we never stick together to help one another.
But when we do ,occupy nama happens.

Yourself isit · 17-02-2017 10:37AM

Was the policeman arrested yet?

Your Face · 17-02-2017 10:40AM

Yourself isit wrote: »

Was the policeman arrested yet?

One was charged with rape.

seenitall · 17-02-2017 10:42AM

moneymad wrote: »

We don't have the backbone.

The Irish are a placid lot. A constant, low-level, all social strata-encompassing grumble, is the safety valve that saves ye from the bother of protest marches or the explosiveness of riots.

And beer. Ah the beer...

Riots in the Parisian suburbs

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