Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

hairball · 10-02-2017 11:10PM

magnumbud wrote: »

I can only assume a direct or a video demoing it will come in the next 2 weeks. Maybe even in the days before. Would be strange not to even for nintendo who seem a good bit more on the ball this time round

The lads on that snake platformer really seem delighted at how easy it is to develop for the switch as are the binding of isaac guys. As a developer myself i know how frustrating a bad development environment can be. Something that nintie have been shoddy at the last few generations

Snake pass is looking amazing.

Nollog · 10-02-2017 11:12PM

Somedaythefire wrote: »

Is anywhere selling the dual red joycons?

Looks like all the red red blue blue sets aren't on any websites anymore. Just red blue and grey gray.

MilesMorales1 · 10-02-2017 11:22PM

Were they selling matching colour joy con sets?

hairball · 10-02-2017 11:23PM

didn't think they were selling those in Europe.

magnumbud · 10-02-2017 11:25PM

hairball wrote: »

Snake pass is looking amazing.

I only watched the twitch to hear the devs talk about the switch and do like the look of. Cannot wait for yooka laylee too. Forgot to back it before it was too late.

Could get it on pc but just feels right playing a "rare" game on nintendos system. They were my favourite devs back in the n64 era and i dreamed of working for them. Shame they haven't had that same magic since ms buying them

hairball · 10-02-2017 11:26PM

magnumbud wrote: »

I only watched the twitch to hear the devs talk about the switch and do like the look of. Cannot wait for yooka laylee too. Forgot to back it before it was too late.

Could get it on pc but just feels right playing a "rare" game on nintendos system. They were my favourite devs back in the n64 era and i dreamed of working for them. Shame they haven't had that same magic since ms buying them

had an interview with 'em once upon a time. Impressive place.

Star Lord · 10-02-2017 11:29PM

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

This has been going on for weeks now. Anything pointed at as a possible flaw in the Switch is automatically defended blindly by you guys. No launch lineup? Hey it happened before! No browser? Didn't want that anyway! 1-2 Switch laughable? Poor marketing and branding!

Sometimes you just gotta call a spade a spade.

No launch line-up? That's a bit hyperbolic, isn't it? True, it's got a small number of titles, and most of us will be getting the switch for Zelda primarily, and the games that will be coming further down the line, as anyone getting a newly launched console does.

No browser I truly couldn't care less about, whether it has one or not. Tried the Wii U browser a couple of times in the early days of of novelty. Similarly with the browser on my PS3. then never used them again. Easier and quicker to use the phone browser.

1 - 2 Switch is laughable I think. I agree with you on that. Initially the ads looked funny, like this could be some fun WarioWare type game, but since then, it looks shallower than WarioWare, less enjoyable with less replay value. Should have been a pack in to demonstrate the HD rumble. Think it was a mistake not doing so .

RasTa · 10-02-2017 11:39PM

This isn't being advertised as a console so it should come with a browser on day one, e reader feature would be decent too.

magnumbud · 10-02-2017 11:43PM

RasTa wrote: »

This isn't being advertised as a console so it should come with a browser on day one, e reader feature would be decent too.

Star Lord · 10-02-2017 11:44PM

RasTa wrote: »

This isn't being advertised as a console so it should come with a browser on day one, e reader feature would be decent too.

It absolutely is being advertised as a console, in fact they're going to lengths to refer to it as their next home console, to keep it separate from the handheld line, with the 3DS. They don't refer to the main part as a tablet either, as such would infer access to app stores and other such functionality.

RasTa · 10-02-2017 11:44PM

a computer system specially made for playing video games by connecting it to a television or other display for video and sound.

I'm never wrong.

Star Lord wrote: »

It absolutely is being advertised as a console, in fact they're going to lengths to refer to it as their next home console, to keep it separate from the handheld line, with the 3DS. They don't refer to the main part as a tablet either, as such would infer access to app stores and other such functionality.

Even their superbowl ad has more time spent playing without the TV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUDkrkykvZs

johnpatrick81 · 10-02-2017 11:45PM

I was just using those as examples, but all 3 points are good examples.

The fact you say "most of us are getting the Switch primarily for Zelda" speaks volumes about the lineup considering most of you have a Wii U and it's basically the same game as the Wii U version.

The browser thing I actually couldn't care less, but here's the stickler, some people will. Hence why it's a valid negative in the grander scheme of things. Even more so based on the portable nature of the Switch.

Glad we agree on the absolute tosh of 1-2 Switch at least!

magnumbud · 10-02-2017 11:45PM

RasTa wrote: »

I'm never wrong.

emmmmm it connects to a tv and plays games, all it does at launch is play games im pretty sure your own quote is exactly describing what it is

EDIT: to respond to your edit your quote says to "televisions or other display" what is that thing on the switch? its a screen or in other words a display for video or sound

Star Lord · 10-02-2017 11:47PM

RasTa wrote: »

I'm never wrong.

From their own switch site:
Nintendo Switch is designed to go wherever you do, transforming from home console to portable system in a snap. So you get more time to play the games you love, however you like.

RasTa · 10-02-2017 11:50PM

magnumbud wrote: »

emmmmm it connects to a tv and plays games, all it does at launch is play games im pretty sure your own quote is exactly describing what it is

Star Lord wrote: »

From their own switch site:
Nintendo Switch is designed to go wherever you do, transforming from home console to portable system in a snap. So you get more time to play the games you love, however you like.

It's not a dedicated games console like the PS4, Snes etc.

It's a portable gaming system with a dock that enlarges the image. They are only doing themselves a disservice from the start by not taking into account other features people might use when playing it on the go.

Star Lord · 10-02-2017 11:54PM

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

The fact you say "most of us are getting the Switch primarily for Zelda" speaks volumes about the lineup considering most of you have a Wii U and it's basically the same game as the Wii U version.

It's not basically the same game, it is the same game. The number of titles is small, Zelda is the big title for launch. I'd bet it'll be like Twilight Princess, where in this case the Wii U version will be a relatively small number, the Switch is the focus for it now.

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

The browser thing I actually couldn't care less, but here's the stickler, some people will. Hence why it's a valid negative in the grander scheme of things. Even more so based on the portable nature of the Switch.

Given this portable nature, it'll have to be tethered be phone to get Internet access, which kinda only makes a browser even more irrelevant for me at least. I'm sure some people would like a browser included, but in also sure that they'd be in the vast minority of users.

Star Lord · 10-02-2017 11:56PM

RasTa wrote: »

It's not a dedicated games console like the PS4, Snes etc.

It's a portable gaming system with a dock that enlarges the image. They are only doing themselves a disservice from the start by not taking into account other features people might use when playing it on the go.

All their marketing is around it being a new home console that can also be portable. Not the other way round.

magnumbud · 10-02-2017 11:57PM

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

I was just using those as examples, but all 3 points are good examples.

The fact you say "most of us are getting the Switch primarily for Zelda" speaks volumes about the lineup considering most of you have a Wii U and it's basically the same game as the Wii U version.

while in sentiment i agree something i heard some reporter say about picking zelda up on wii u or switch "why buy a game as the last nail in the coffin of one console and not just buy it as a celebration to the start of a whole new library of games" i also plan to pickup bomberman as it looks fun and snipperclips, i know its not a launch game

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

The browser thing I actually couldn't care less, but here's the stickler, some people will. Hence why it's a valid negative in the grander scheme of things. Even more so based on the portable nature of the Switch.

i would 100% agree with you if they said one was never coming along with netflix and such but they have said they are coming so i am willing to wait.

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

Glad we agree on the absolute tosh of 1-2 Switch at least!

it probably will be, i got it for about 25 pounds and said for that i can afford to take the risk of only playing it a handful of times but there is a group of us im work going to get together and try it out and purely to try and freak each other out during the milking game. my missus also saw the clips from the presentation and thought it looked fun so i will play it with her too. i will likely end up trading it in but i'll at least get a few laughs out of it

magnumbud · 11-02-2017 12:04AM

RasTa wrote: »

It's not a dedicated games console like the PS4, Snes etc.

It's a portable gaming system with a dock that enlarges the image. They are only doing themselves a disservice from the start by not taking into account other features people might use when playing it on the go.

what were the gameboy and ds series? handheld dedicated games consoles. they are smartly in my opinion trying to fuse there dwindling home console and there successful handheld console markets into one.

by its very nature of not currently having anything else on it at launch it is a dedicated gaming console. i like many others will probably play it mostly as a home console in the dock but i love that i can take it where i want and if there is a footie game on the telly that i want to watch but continue playing i can undock it and keep playing. if i ever need to get the train or a bus i will love being able to take it on the go and its ease to pack up and take over to someone elses place.

johnpatrick81 · 11-02-2017 12:07AM

magnumbud wrote: »

"why buy a game as the last nail in the coffin of one console and not just buy it as a celebration to the start of a whole new library of games"

I can think of around 350 reasons

A lot of you are buying the Switch on faith and loyalty. I'd rather wait a year or so and see how it fares.

Star Lord · 11-02-2017 12:10AM

That's an absolutely fair way to approach it, and it's what most people do with new consoles. It makes sense to do so! There's always this trade off with buying in day 1 with any console launch.

johnpatrick81 · 11-02-2017 12:14AM

Very true. The problem with this one is that Nintendo seem to have lost third party support and don't seem to be getting it back based on the first year's release lineup

I think they need to win back a lot of trust.

magnumbud · 11-02-2017 12:14AM

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

I can think of around 350 reasons

A lot of you are buying the Switch on faith and loyalty. I'd rather wait a year or so and see how it fares.

100% correct. i have bought the last 2 nintendo consoles at launch my brother bought the 2 previous ones on launch day, cant remember if the snes was near launch or not as i was about 6ish at the time, i loved playing the nes but it was the day i first played Link to the past on the snes that i fell in love with games.

sure the wii u was a flop but it also had a lot of games i actually loved. im hoping that the switch fairs better but i fell its a much better bit of kit even the wii u was lost considering the only 2 nintendo games in launch year were new super mario bros and nintendoland but this time they have botw, splatoon 2, mario kart 8 deluxe and mario galaxy. e3 will be very important for them and it to hopefully showcase some 3rd party exclusives that will come out in the xmas period.

EDIT: i also decided to buy it at launch while initially thinking of waiting as i was given 500 in one for all vouchers as part of my xmas bonus to save on tax so i decided sure i may as well put it on the switch. those 20 seconds of extra loading times will add up like :P

Star Lord · 11-02-2017 12:16AM

I dunno about that, seems like they've better third party support coming down the line than they actually did with the Wii U (which isn't saying much, but any improvement is good)

Corholio · 11-02-2017 12:19AM

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

I can think of around 350 reasons

A lot of you are buying the Switch on faith and loyalty. I'd rather wait a year or so and see how it fares.

People are indeed buying it for those reasons, some are also buying it for Zelda and the upcoming games (Mario Kart, Splatoon, Arms etc), not to mention the portability function of using those games. Launches are often over judged and critiqued as some sort of barometer for a console when in almost all cases much later analysis is far more accurate as to what a consoles fate will be. A year is a good length of time though, Nintendo will need a steady stream of titles to have been introduced by then.

CiDeRmAn · 11-02-2017 01:06AM

RasTa wrote: »

It's not a dedicated games console like the PS4, Snes etc.

It's a portable gaming system with a dock that enlarges the image. They are only doing themselves a disservice from the start by not taking into account other features people might use when playing it on the go.

Nope.
The PS4 is certainly not a dedicated games system, nor is the XB1.
Both are marketed as also being media hubs and capable of numerous functions in addition to their gaming capabilities.

Unless you are getting confused that, in some way, a handheld gaming console isn't a gaming console, in which case you are mistaken.
Of course they are, as was the PSP, Vita and Gameboy consoles.
Mario Kart 8 deluxe , running at 60fps on both TV and handheld modes, with 1080p and 720p on each respectively.
The system runs on the TV at full HD and then 720 on the handheld to save power, making the device more efficient.
So, no, not enlarging the image, that's what the Super Gameboy and Gameboy Player do, that's not what's happening here.

OwaynOTT · 11-02-2017 01:40AM

Are we only allowed to play launch titles? Will we not be getting more?

Anyway, yesterday was a big love in today is more

CiDeRmAn · 11-02-2017 01:47AM

Every now and again it all goes a bit dark alright.
I picked up Edge today and it is possibly the least positive I've seen them report on a console from Nintendo.
And, for them, it boils down to lack of choice in launch titles and initial cost.
I don't feel, for me at least, that cost is a major factor, but may be for some.
I wonder if a home only Switch would have been a cheaper and more attractive format as a result.
Or, alternatively, a portable only Switch.
Or develop them both in parallel, using the same format at core.

The lack of launch titles is balanced with the fact that one of them is Zelda, but the article made a good point that Mario is almost certainly ready to go but Nintendo are spreading their big property releases of across the calendar, which would a shame if true.

Corholio · 11-02-2017 01:58AM

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Every now and again it all goes a bit dark alright.
I picked up Edge today and it is possibly the least positive I've seen them report on a console from Nintendo.
And, for them, it boils down to lack of choice in launch titles and initial cost.
I don't feel, for me at least, that cost is a major factor, but may be for some.
I wonder if a home only Switch would have been a cheaper and more attractive format as a result.
Or, alternatively, a portable only Switch.
Or develop them both in parallel, using the same format at core.

The lack of launch titles is balanced with the fact that one of them is Zelda, but the article made a good point that Mario is almost certainly ready to go but Nintendo are spreading their big property releases of across the calendar, which would a shame if true.

I think one of the producers of Mario has said it's pretty much finished alright. I can see the method of why they are doing that though, if Zelda came out now and Mario in May/June etc, the 2 big system sellers would be out with nothing as big for the big holiday season. After missing last years one, they'll have one of the biggest, most anticipated games for that period, and in itself a potential system seller in large amounts. I think E3 will be very interesting to see their first year strategy and what may be unannounced up their sleeve.

MilesMorales1 · 11-02-2017 02:20AM

Seems like they would have made it portable only rather than home console only, if it had been a choice. But its a home console that can be played in portable mode, rather than the image just being enlarged like the gameboy player did. Good try though.

Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

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