Dairy chit chat II

pedigree 6 · 06-02-2017 11:38PM

Here's a good webpage that I often look back on.

http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0008/110888/Grass-tetany-in-cattle-treatment-and-prevention.pdf
That's the grass tetany one.

This is the milk fever one.
http://agriculture.vic.gov.au/agriculture/pests-diseases-and-weeds/animal-diseases/beef-and-dairy-cows/milk-fever-hypocalcaemia-in-cows

degetme · 06-02-2017 11:39PM

awaywithyou wrote: »

Prob too late tbh.... 12 hrs prior to calving is what's recommended...

ya I see that. only heard of them after talking to vet this morning. I have them got for others.

pedigree 6 · 07-02-2017 12:07AM

degetme wrote: »

ya I see that. only heard of them after talking to vet this morning. I have them got for others.

As a matter of interest did you spread lime on the silage ground, say the autumn, winter or spring before closing?

Timmaay · 07-02-2017 12:31AM

Roofed silage pit finally nearly empty (drew 4loads of silage out of it today), and 30 cows/incalf heifers coming in tomorrow morning from their lovely comfy home all winter in the driest 3acres of the farm. Well comfy up until 3days ago, we have got a silly amount of rain the last few days here, 3acres will need to be reseeded to say the least. I really should have had the sheds fully ready for them before now.

freedominacup · 07-02-2017 01:50AM

darragh_haven wrote: »

What would ye value 10 to 11 month old bulling heifers at. And what should target weight at bulling be?

Target weight 300-350kg. For the first question that's a how long is a piece of string one tbh. It depends on what you are after. There years ago we paid 750 for a batch without picking iykwim.

darragh_haven · 07-02-2017 07:32AM

freedominacup wrote: »

Target weight 300-350kg. For the first question that's a how long is a piece of string one tbh. It depends on what you are after. There years ago we paid 750 for a batch without picking iykwim.

I was looking at a batch of 30 mostly friesian type heifers with a friend of mine. They're being out wintered on kale and bales of silage (altho the kale ran out 10 days ago) they looked fairly miserable tbf. I asked could he weigh 5 ir 6 of them as they were close to the yard... told no as it was to much hassle. (Iwas the devil's advocate, my friend was the buyer)

freedominacup · 07-02-2017 10:42AM

darragh_haven wrote: »

I was looking at a batch of 30 mostly friesian type heifers with a friend of mine. They're being out wintered on kale and bales of silage (altho the kale ran out 10 days ago) they looked fairly miserable tbf. I asked could he weigh 5 ir 6 of them as they were close to the yard... told no as it was to much hassle. (Iwas the devil's advocate, my friend was the buyer)

If he got them at the right price now he has 10 weeks to get them right. They should turn around quickly but he doesn't need them to start putting on fat. Could be a bit of a balancing act getting them to weight.

Timmaay · 08-02-2017 12:10PM

Business as usual again, after 4days back inside. My end of Feb 30% target not looking great ha, only 1calved yet. 1st due around the 10th, I would of expected a dozen or so to have popped early. Anyone wanna loan me 40 milking cows for Feb ha?

Buford T. Justice XIX · 08-02-2017 12:43PM

Timmaay wrote: »

Business as usual again, after 4days back inside. My end of Feb 30% target not looking great ha, only 1calved yet. 1st due around the 10th, I would of expected a dozen or so to have popped early. Anyone wanna loan me 40 milking cows for Feb ha?

Leave out a few heifers and graze lower covers and you should hit the 30% target. That's my plan anyway.

Mooooo · 08-02-2017 12:47PM

Let a cow in to tank this morning. Tank is too big to reach down and take a sample from the hatch so took a few buckets out of the outlet and then took a sample from there, do ye think it will do to test that?

Buford T. Justice XIX · 08-02-2017 01:13PM

Mooooo wrote: »

Let a cow in to tank this morning. Tank is too big to reach down and take a sample from the hatch so took a few buckets out of the outlet and then took a sample from there, do ye think it will do to test that?

Make sure it's well agitated.

Mooooo · 08-02-2017 01:37PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Make sure it's well agitated.

Yeah i put it agitating beforehand, downside to the big tank. The grandmother years ago used to take a jug or two of milk for the baking by dipping the jug into the tank, wouldn't take it from the outlet.

whelan2 · 08-02-2017 01:37PM

Timmaay wrote: »

Business as usual again, after 4days back inside. My end of Feb 30% target not looking great ha, only 1calved yet. 1st due around the 10th, I would of expected a dozen or so to have popped early. Anyone wanna loan me 40 milking cows for Feb ha?

How are you getting on with your liquid quota will you fill it? What are your cows in calf to?

Timmaay · 08-02-2017 03:35PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Leave out a few heifers and graze lower covers and you should hit the 30% target. That's my plan anyway.

All 14 of them never came in ha.

GrasstoMilk · 08-02-2017 03:39PM

Maiden heifers let out here today

Buford T. Justice XIX · 08-02-2017 04:14PM

Spent the last few hours ripping the parlour feeders. I powerhosed them before Christmas and thought no more about them but apparently they're NOT waterproof and the ration bridged in the augers. I'll end up having to get Dairymaster out to rip the feckers:(

Timmaay · 08-02-2017 05:32PM

whelan2 wrote: »

How are you getting on with your liquid quota will you fill it? What are your cows in calf to?

Did double it in dec, 1/3 more in Jan. Too many late calvers! Liquid quota only 80gls/day.

I did 3wks of fr ai, then mostly either beef straw or the AA bull. I wasn't pushed about having many replacement heifers at all this year (had only expected the same 110ac in total this year), but a surprising number held to fr straws, and with the 13 I bought in, I should end up with 25/30 replacements. Afew BBs due to larger old HOs who I'm less pushed about keeping them in the herd.

Mooooo · 08-02-2017 07:25PM

Milk came back clear anyway. Must order the stuff for the delvo kit. Had two cows near calving mounting like they were in strong heats a few days ago, springing up well and all, one since calved. Spotting an in-calf heifer today acting the fool as well but no springing so I'm doubting myself now

Buford T. Justice XIX · 08-02-2017 08:24PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Spent the last few hours ripping the parlour feeders. I powerhosed them before Christmas and thought no more about them but apparently they're NOT waterproof and the ration bridged in the augers. I'll end up having to get Dairymaster out to rip the feckers:(

All bar 2 sorted on one side and should manage to keep ahead of the other side as they calve. I had to crowbar the auger out of them, the plastic is surprisingly strong.

Fixture · 08-02-2017 08:39PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

All bar 2 sorted on one side and should manage to keep ahead of the other side as they calve. I had to crowbar the auger out of them, the plastic is surprisingly strong.

Where would we be without crowbars and sledges!

freedominacup · 08-02-2017 09:30PM

Fixture wrote: »

Where would we be without crowbars and sledges!

Fcuked and far from home.

Timmaay · 08-02-2017 09:56PM

Scc 67 last collection! Before this the lowest it ever been was 87ish. I think it was only 3 winters ago when I remember being at the utter end of my tether with the Scc consistanly over 400k and glanbia constantly on my case. Nice to see progress!

cjpm · 08-02-2017 10:23PM

Maiden heifers are in calf to AA stock bull. About 50% calved and the calves are very big.

Diet is as lib silage, good quality. Should I feed some straw to the ones left to calve? Any tips appreciated

freedominacup · 08-02-2017 10:35PM

cjpm wrote: »

Maiden heifers are in calf to AA stock bull. About 50% calved and the calves are very big.

Diet is as lib silage, good quality. Should I feed some straw to the ones left to calve? Any tips appreciated

Cut intakes asap. Definitely add some straw.

Wildsurfer · 09-02-2017 06:01AM

cjpm wrote: »

Maiden heifers are in calf to AA stock bull. About 50% calved and the calves are very big.

Diet is as lib silage, good quality. Should I feed some straw to the ones left to calve? Any tips appreciated

Just straw and rolled oats would be your best bet if heifers are calving down over conditioned

yewtree · 09-02-2017 10:37AM

cjpm wrote: »

Maiden heifers are in calf to AA stock bull. About 50% calved and the calves are very big.

Diet is as lib silage, good quality. Should I feed some straw to the ones left to calve? Any tips appreciated

Are the heifers over fat? Have you stock from the bull previously? It might just be that the bull is producing calves unsuitable for heifers.

blackdog1 · 09-02-2017 02:42PM

Got a dose of mastitis this week. 3 cows over the last 2 weeks. Checked all air liners and had a good few with holes in them so hopefully that's the last of it. Called to the vet for tubes and he said it was rampant at the moment. 1 poor fella calved 39 heifers and 20 had problems....

Mooooo · 10-02-2017 01:04PM

Have a cow here I was due to dry off this week supposed to be calving the end of April. I swear she's springing up, whether the date is wrong or she's going to pass the calf I dunno. Any suggestions with what to do. ? Would stop milking her run the risk of mastitis?. Shortest tube is still 30 days

whelan2 · 10-02-2017 01:09PM

Mooooo wrote: »

Have a cow here I was due to dry off this week supposed to be calving the end of April. I swear she's springing up, whether the date is wrong or she's going to pass the calf I dunno. Any suggestions with what to do. ? Would stop milking her run the risk of mastitis?. Shortest tube is still 30 days

I would put her out in a paddock and see what she's like in a day or 2. When did she calve last year, could she be full time now? She should just dry up herself

Mooooo · 10-02-2017 01:11PM

whelan2 wrote: »

I would put her out in a paddock and see what she's like in a day or 2. When did she calve last year, could she be full time now? She should just dry up herself

She calved early last year alright. May be best option alright. Would be afraid of mastitis alright. Condition wise she is fine

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