Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

Banjo · 07-02-2017 01:24PM

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

So what? Thats the most riddiculous thing I read. You could have the biggest launch line up in history and have every single game be crap. 'Smallest in history' literally means nothing, now thats a clickbait article. PS4/XB1/360/PS3/DS/PS2 all had much larger launch line ups, yet somehow had maybe 2 games worth playing between them.

Smallest console since the N64 launch.
Which launched with 2 games, one of which was Mario 64, which went on to be one of the (if not outright THE) most influential 3D platformers of all time.

Smallest handheld launch since the DS. OK, not so many all time classics in there, but Project Rub is definitely better than the cover or name would make you think

And the console itself was the best selling handheld of all time.

And the largest launch was the Wii U which was a commercial flop and filled out with lacklustre aging 3rd party titles.

So this is a good news story?

MilesMorales1 · 07-02-2017 01:39PM

Banjo wrote: »

Smallest console since the N64 launch.
Which launched with 2 games, one of which was Mario 64, which went on to be one of the (if not outright THE) most influential 3D platformers of all time.

Smallest handheld launch since the DS. OK, not so many all time classics in there, but Project Rub is definitely better than the cover or name would make you think And the console itself was the best selling handheld of all time.

And the largest launch was the Wii U which was a commercial flop and filled out with lacklustre aging 3rd party titles.

So this is a good news story?

Yes. I would rather have, genuinely. A launch line up of 5 retail games, 5 indie stuff, plus hopefully virtual console, of which 3 of them are good. Then 25 mediocre Wii U games, or 15 crap PS4/XB1 games.

Banjo · 07-02-2017 01:48PM

In fairness to the article, Nintendo are not feeding the hype fire, so journo's have to scramble up whatever information we all ready have and look for new ways to serve it. For every parmentier potatoes there have to be increasing numbers of "mashed potato shaped like a fish" as desperation sets in. (ironically it's the latter rather than the former that Parmentier himself came up with).

Don't hate the playa's! Hate the manufacturers of the platform on which the game is played!

CiDeRmAn · 07-02-2017 01:49PM

magnumbud wrote: »

well since there are indie games due out on the 3rd which are digital only i'd say its a guarantee that the eshop with or without VC games will be up at launch

That's an excellent point.
The forecast of digital only titles on launch means they have to have the online infrastructure in place.
VC content, I'd say they'll have some high profile titles available on the day tbh.

sligeach · 07-02-2017 02:04PM

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

So what? Thats the most riddiculous thing I read. You could have the biggest launch line up in history and have every single game be crap. 'Smallest in history' literally means nothing, now thats a clickbait article. PS4/XB1/360/PS3/DS/PS2 all had much larger launch line ups, yet somehow had maybe 2 games worth playing between them.

:rolleyes: It's not a clickbait article. Its purpose was to deal with the quantity of games at launch, not their quality. I think it did an excellent job at that. I don't think you even read it properly. It did say that "In the Switch’s favour, the DS only launched with six games, two of which were exclusive, and it sold 154 million units."

C14N · 07-02-2017 02:19PM

sligeach wrote: »

:rolleyes: It's not a clickbait article. Its purpose was to deal with the quantity of games at launch, not their quality. I think it did an excellent job at that. I don't think you even read it properly. It did say that "In the Switch’s favour, the DS only launched with six games, two of which were exclusive, and it sold 154 million units."

The DS actually seems like a good argument for the idea that a console's launch is not really a make-or-break event too. I don't remember the DS really picking up steam until nearly 2 years into its cycle, around the time the DS Lite came out. Same goes for the PS3, which very few people bought at 600 compared to its overall sales.

MilesMorales1 · 07-02-2017 02:29PM

Nintendo really should have the entire Wii U/3DS VC catalogues available day one. Even if it took a bit longer to sort out transfers from Wii U/3DS, you'd have so much amazing stuff available day one.

hairball · 07-02-2017 02:35PM

C14N wrote: »

The DS actually seems like a good argument for the idea that a console's launch is not really a make-or-break event too. I don't remember the DS really picking up steam until nearly 2 years into its cycle, around the time the DS Lite came out. Same goes for the PS3, which very few people bought at 600 compared to its overall sales.

I agree. Way too much being made out of the launch titles. I'd rather they pace out delivery of quality titles so there's always something in the pipeline and they appear to being attempting that this time around. Not bothered about the VC at launch but do hope they implement it properly at some stage this year.

CiDeRmAn · 07-02-2017 02:40PM

Poor games hurt a console, look at Lococycle on the XB1, a launch game and utter sh1te.
The system would have been better without instead of it being there to bulk out the poor launch line up.

dunworth1 · 07-02-2017 02:45PM

sligeach wrote: »

Very interesting article. Well worth a read.

Analysis: Nintendo Switch launch line-up smallest in 21 years

https://www.finder.com.au/analysis-nintendo-switch-launch-line-up-smallest-in-21-years

Seriously where do you find these obscure New sources

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CiDeRmAn · 07-02-2017 04:33PM

Clickbait.
They take a look at the statistics of what's being searched for the most.
They generate articles to attract the searching punter.
They attach revenue generating add on the end of the headline links.
Visitors visit and make revenue
They post links and more people visit and more revenue is made.

sligeach · 07-02-2017 06:03PM

Facts are facts. Just because you don't like them, well I can't do anything about that.

sligeach · 07-02-2017 06:13PM

Nintendo Switch Games List Now Over 100 Titles

What games are going to be on the Nintendo Switch? We already know over 100 games, including a mix of first-party and third-party titles. We also know most of those games will be out by the end of the year.

There’s plenty to get excited about, with the latest Zelda game coming right at launch. Looking forward to a month after, the revamped Mario Kart 8 will be available. By the end of the year, a new Mario, Splatoon and Arms will be out, along with Skyrim, Minecraft and other great games.

The full games list for Nintendo Switch as of Feb. 7 is as follows, sorted by release date:

LAUNCH DAY, MARCH 3

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
1, 2, Switch
Skylanders Imaginators
The Binding of Isaac: Afterbirth
Just Dance 2017
World of Goo: Human Resource Machine
Little Inferno
I Am Setsuna
Super Bomberman R

MARCH 28

Has Been Heroes

MARCH

Snipperclips
Disgaea 5
Shovel Knight
Snake Pass
Cube Life
Fast RMX

APRIL 28

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
Constructor

MAY 2

Puyo Puyo Tetris

MAY

Rime

Q2 2017

Arms
Sonic Mania
LEGO City Undercover
Redout
Graceful Explosion Machine

Q3 2017

Splatoon 2
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Fire Emblem Warriors

SEPTEMBER

NBA 2K18
FIFA 18

Q4 2017

Super Mario Odyssey
Project Sonic 2017

2017

Xenoblade Chronicles 2
Oceanhorn
Stardew Valley
Yooka-Laylee
Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2
Ultra Street Fighter 2
Rayman Legends
Farming Simulator 18
Minecraft
Cave Story
Minecraft Story Mode
1001 Spikes
Wonderboy: The Dragon’s Trap
Waku Waku 7
Arcade Archives
Syberia 3
Metal Slug 3
Monster Boy and the Cursed Kingdom
Hollow Knight
Shock Troopers
Dungeon of Zaar
Nobunaga’s Ambition
Tank It!
Steep
Steamworld
World Heroes Perfect
Earthlock: Festival of Magic
Super Blackjack Battle 2 Turbo
The King of Fighters ‘98

2018

Fire Emblem
No More Heroes
The Sacred Hero
Project Fist
TBA
Pankapu
Dragon Quest X
Dragon Quest XI
Dragon Quest Heroes 1&2
Octopath Traveller
Tumbleseed
Pok é mon
Moon Child
Audio Hero
Spelunker World
Derby Stallion
Seasons of Heaven
Story of Seasons
Taiko Drum Master
LEGO Worlds
New Frontier Days
Rusty Pup
Ohayou!
Zombie Vikings
Palu’s Adventure
The Jackbox Party Pack 3
Bit Boy Arcade
Fox n Forests
BlazBlue
Entertainment Hero
Shin Megami Tensei
Racing Apex
State of Mind
Tales
Riverside
Greckel’s Quest
Rise: Race the Future
Clive ‘N’ Wrench

http://www.idigitaltimes.com/nintendo-switch-games-list-now-over-100-titles-582853

That_Guy · 07-02-2017 06:18PM

Those who have pre-ordered will always defend their purchase.

Those who don't pre-order will always find articles/reasons to justify their reason for not pre-ordering.

It's a boring back and forth at this stage.

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I've pre-ordered because I want this console to do well, I'm on the go a lot which helps increase my gaming time, new Zelda (short sighted reason perhaps but still... It's Zelda), it genuinely looks like a solid piece of kit and because I am excited about this console.

I've got my concerns like most and the questions I have are not as yet answered but my excitement is over ruling my concerns right now. Could be blind optimism on my part but I want to believe that this console can truly succeed and be great.

The internet is a funny place at times. You can always find a post/article that backs up your opinion on nearly every topic.

There's probably a hundred reasons why I shouldn't have pre-ordered and paid off my Switch but there's equally 100 reasons why I'm probably justified in doing so.

CiDeRmAn · 07-02-2017 06:36PM

sligeach wrote: »

Facts are facts. Just because you don't like them, well I can't do anything about that.

To quote the article you linked to

Nintendo is amping up the hype for the Switch, but historically it has the weakest lineup seen in decades.

And that is an opinion.
Not a fact.
The article is even referred to as "analysis" which is simply the authors opinion.
He or she is basing the article on their own subjective analysis of the facts as they see them.

The author almost immediately equates the quantity of games being released for the Switch on launch with the quality of the games.
And that's the fallacy the article is built upon, which means the rest of it's conclusions are also false, or only correct accidentally.

A better piece would have been to look at the review scores for the various launch games and derive an average from there, but that would have required a little work so hardly surprising this lazy journo didn't bother.

And, just to be contrary, the DS had nothing to compete against save the PSP and it's own predecessor, it was almost inevitable it was going to own the handheld market.
The Switch is entering a market with three competing systems, XB1, PS4 and PC, not to mention it's competing with it's own predecessor, the 3DS.

RasTa · 07-02-2017 06:38PM

Is anyone on here buying a Switch at launch that doesn't own a Wii-U?

That_Guy · 07-02-2017 06:40PM

RasTa wrote: »

Is anyone on here buying a Switch that doesn't own a Wii-U?

Me.

CiDeRmAn · 07-02-2017 06:49PM

Just to give an example of my point
PS3 launch games
Blazing Angels: 66/100
CoD3: 80/100
Genji days of the blade: 55/100
Madden NFL 07: 76/100
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance: 73/100
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire: 33/100
NBA 2K7: 80/100
NHL 2K7: 73/100
Resistance: Fall of Man: 86/100 (a legacy score surely, this brown pile of sh1te is a terrible game)
Ridge Racer 7: 78/100
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07: 81/100
Tony Hawk's Project 8: 76/100

So, on average, a PS3 launch game was likely to be a 71% game.
Woohoo....
Break out the red lemonade and buns!

Rather than that big pile of m'eh on a hideously expensive console, €499 or €599, depending on getting the 20GB or 60GB model.

The Switch is launching with LoZ, a game series whose major releases have consistently been high scorers
http://www.metacritic.com/search/all/legend%20of%20zelda/results

CiDeRmAn · 07-02-2017 06:56PM

Right, just preordered Binding of Isaac for the Switch from Videogamesplus in lovely Canada...
Cost around €45 including shipping.
I don't expect it to arrive in time for launch day though, but it'll be great to have such a cracking game on a physical cart.

RasTa · 07-02-2017 07:02PM

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Right, just preordered Binding of Isaac for the Switch from Videogamesplus in lovely Canada...
Cost around €45 including shipping.
I don't expect it to arrive in time for launch day though, but it'll be great to have such a cracking game on a physical cart.

€45 great?

Sarn · 07-02-2017 07:03PM

RasTa wrote: »

Is anyone on here buying a Switch at launch that doesn't own a Wii-U?

Me as well. I didn't pick up a Wii U, hummed and hawed the entire time and then the NX was announced. I even own an amiibo and have nothing to use it on.

I'm justifying the day one purchase on the basis that I have all the money that I didn't spend on the Wii U to spend on it. Might as well get in at the start!

TrustedApple · 07-02-2017 07:05PM

RasTa wrote: »

€45 great?

Yes I would consider it 45 euros great I have it on the Xbox Ps4 Vita and soon to be switch.

Love the game a lot

fixXxer · 07-02-2017 07:06PM

RasTa wrote:

Is anyone on here buying a Switch at launch that doesn't own a Wii-U?

Mise.

RasTa · 07-02-2017 07:08PM

TrustedApple wrote: »

Yes I would consider it 45 euros great I have it on the Xbox Ps4 Vita and soon to be switch.

Love the game a lot

Why would you buy it again?

OwaynOTT · 07-02-2017 07:09PM

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Right, just preordered Binding of Isaac for the Switch from Videogamesplus in lovely Canada...
Cost around €45 including shipping.
I don't expect it to arrive in time for launch day though, but it'll be great to have such a cracking game on a physical cart.

We not getting a physical cart here in europeland?

Digital Solitude · 07-02-2017 07:16PM

RasTa wrote: »

Why would you buy it again?

To play it on the Switch?

I must have bought Dark Souls 5 times at this stage

RasTa · 07-02-2017 07:19PM

Digital Solitude wrote: »

To play it on the Switch?

I must have bought Dark Souls 5 times at this stage

Yeah but €45 is too high imo and he already has it on handheld.

Fiver or tenner seems reasonable

Corholio · 07-02-2017 07:25PM

RasTa wrote: »

Yeah but €45 is too high imo and he already has it on handheld.

Fiver or tenner seems reasonable

5 or 10 for a physical cart on a new system?

Digital Solitude · 07-02-2017 07:34PM

Corholio wrote: »

5 or 10 for a physical cart on a new system?

Given it's like €25 on Steam for Afterbirth and Rebirth €45 isn't by too bad.

It's also Nintendo which puts the price up

sligeach · 07-02-2017 07:44PM

RasTa wrote: »

Yeah but €45 is too high imo and he already has it on handheld.

Fiver or tenner seems reasonable

That's a bit low even if it is dirt cheap on other platforms. It should probably be €20-25. There's a few publishers trying to exploit early Switch buyers. Konami and Capcom can go and do one as well. W@nk€r$!

Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

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