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Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,246 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    mayordenis wrote: »
    What is this clickbaity nonsense?

    Nonsense? What of it is nonsense? I agree with it. And it's as relevant as the top 5 reasons why you should buy the Switch articles I've posted before. You don't need to click on it as I've posted its content.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,656 ✭✭✭C14N


    Does anyone else worry that the relative complexity of the Switch could bite Nintendo in the bum in terms of marketing it? Obviously it's perfectly understandable to those of us in the thread who have gone and researched it and keep up to date on how it works, but for the average parent or non-core gamer, I think it could potentially seem confusing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    It can't be as confusing as the Wii U that's for sure. I don't think it will be confusing to consumers. Nintendo are being quite clear as to what the switch is a home console you can take on the go or vice versa.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,392 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Am very worried on how fragile it will be, Zelda Water Temple plus Nerd rage equals smashy smashy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭hairball


    C14N wrote: »
    Does anyone else worry that the relative complexity of the Switch could bite Nintendo in the bum in terms of marketing it? Obviously it's perfectly understandable to those of us in the thread who have gone and researched it and keep up to date on how it works, but for the average parent or non-core gamer, I think it could potentially seem confusing.

    I don't think it's main functionality is confusing at all. I reckon it comes across well in the advertising and I'd say that even if someone was unsure a quick in store demo would make it pretty clear.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 985 ✭✭✭Atari Jaguar


    C14N wrote: »
    Does anyone else worry that the relative complexity of the Switch could bite Nintendo in the bum in terms of marketing it? Obviously it's perfectly understandable to those of us in the thread who have gone and researched it and keep up to date on how it works, but for the average parent or non-core gamer, I think it could potentially seem confusing.

    What's confusing exactly? It's a home console and a handheld.

    You can play it on your TV

    Or bring it with you

    The premise is rather basic? I see that a lot with people who play video games a lot (I don't like the term gamer) where they seem to think anyone outside their circle is a dunce who can't do a bit of googling should they need more information on something. For anyone confused these days it's fairly simple to find out what the switch is, either ask in GameStop and the staff will explain or just google "what is a Nintendo switch"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭nairy hipples


    Do you think we'll see demo units in any of the stores soon? There's less than 4 weeks to go and I'd love to play one (even though I've already paid off my pre-order) and can't afford to head to the UK for it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 985 ✭✭✭Atari Jaguar


    Do you think we'll see demo units in any of the stores soon? There's less than 4 weeks to go and I'd love to play one (even though I've already paid off my pre-order) and can't afford to head to the UK for it!

    I doubt it. That seems to be a long passed thing I haven't seen demo units set up in stores since the PS3 & Xbox 360.

    Besides that's up to Nintendo to do. Demo units are fairly expensive and supplying smaller territories like ours isn't likely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,246 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    I doubt it. That seems to be a long passed thing I haven't seen demo units set up in stores since the PS3 & Xbox 360.

    Besides that's up to Nintendo to do. Demo units are fairly expensive and supplying smaller territories like ours isn't likely.

    I see demo units in Smyths all the time. Even Wii U demo units, only last week I seen someone playing MK8.

    However, I don't think we'll see Switch demo units prior to launch. I remember seeing N64 demo units with Super Mario 64 in shops long before its launch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,392 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Demo unit for Wii U in Smyths Blanch, jervis has a demo 3ds with yoshi at the moment too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    The Nintendo Switch is dropping on March 3, less than a month from now, and it feels like we still don’t know some key features about the console. But how does that compare to other console launches? Is this lack of information unprecedented or par for the course?

    So what don’t we know about the Switch? Although we know it will have a paid online service, we don’t know how it will work or what it will look like (though we know Miiverse won’t be part of it). We don’t know if it will have an achievement system. We also don’t have any concrete information on the Virtual Console, Nintendo’s service for selling digital versions of their classic games, which has been a huge feature on Wii, Wii U, and 3DS.

    To see how other consoles compare, we looked back at three different launches: the Wii U, the PS4, and the Xbox One.
    Looking at this information in aggregate is kind of worrying—it seems like five months before release, we knew a lot more about the Wii U, the PS4 and the Xbox One. But what’s especially worrying is the lack of information on Virtual Console, which is a key feature specifically for Nintendo consoles, and could make the Switch a must buy.


    http://kotaku.com/a-month-before-nintendo-switch-launches-we-really-shou-1792053110


    It is a little worrying how little information we have so close to launch. Though we did just get that big superbowl trailer, hopefully it starts a big blowout.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,405 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    sligeach wrote: »
    Nonsense? What of it is nonsense? I agree with it. And it's as relevant as the top 5 reasons why you should buy the Switch articles I've posted before. You don't need to click on it as I've posted its content.

    It's hardly shedding any new light on a topic we know well at this stage. Each one of those points along with the opposing positive aspects have been discussed at length in previous pages.

    Copy and pasting these pedestrian opinions add nothing to the discussion or to the feed of information. It's provocative at best.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,246 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    Pac1Man wrote: »
    It's hardly shedding any new light on a topic we know well at this stage. Each one of those points along with the opposing positive aspects have been discussed at length in previous pages.

    Copy and pasting these pedestrian opinions add nothing to the discussion or to the feed of information. It's provocative at best.

    That article was about 30 minutes old when I posted it. People are reading this. They see the Superbowl ad last night, go looking today and articles like that is what they'll come across. It's less than a month from launch and there's a tonne of information we don't know. I was a bit miffed that I'm skipping the first launch in ages since the SNES from Nintendo but I'm at peace with that decision now.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,800 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Yeah, if it was anyone else I'd think they lived under a bridge and set traps for billy goats.
    Truth is all launch consoles are, ultimately, poor investments.


    Early adopters pay more, have less games to play, have fewer other owners to play with, suffer through unoptimised software and firmware, deal with emergent hardware issues and cope with shortages of all kinds.
    And that's all early adopters.
    Regardless of format or brand.

    I'm aware of the penalty of jumping in early and buying a console at launch.
    I've bought into lots of these and spent a fortune, and this is the same as ever.
    Big difference is we are now getting a gorgeous new Legend of Zelda title, even if it is also coming to the WiiU, and it's going to look best on the Switch, and be playable on the go.

    So, we have a brand new machine with a killer app.
    Which makes it immediately a much better launch machine than the PS4 and XB1 were, at their launch.

    Those who were ever going to get it are still going to get it.
    Those who weren't are going to produce plenty of reasons to justify a decision they were never going to make differently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭nairy hipples


    I honestly cannot wait for it.
    Although my house is being sold and we're out on the 2nd March so I'll be living with family members until I find a new place! That means that my gorgeous 43" tv is going into storage that day :(
    At least I can play Zelda on the Switch screen even if I can't get that big screened niceness for a while!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭hairball


    I honestly cannot wait for it.
    Although my house is being sold and we're out on the 2nd March so I'll be living with family members until I find a new place! That means that my gorgeous 43" tv is going into storage that day :(
    At least I can play Zelda on the Switch screen even if I can't get that big screened niceness for a while!

    Yeah I haven't been this excited for a console in a long time. I get some of the criticisms but I see the potential of this system and its got me hyped for gaming tech outside of pcs again. Cannot wait for the 3rd


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,210 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Wonder if it will ever be cracked / flash carts etc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭Digital Solitude


    Pirates get around every measure in the long run.

    During its lifespan as Nintendos No.1 console, hopefully not.

    The DS was crippled by piracy and it took the 3DS a long time to get cracked after, afaik the WiiU software is fairly tight, with only a couple of untethered cracks in the last year or so.

    It would appear Ninty are tightening up the security, I'd doubt they'll drop the ball here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,590 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    just a quick question,

    i have the console pre ordered off amazon, with the zelda game. do i need to buy the pro controller, or is the one that comes with it good enough ? or what would ye recommend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭earthwormjack


    2smiggy wrote: »
    just a quick question,

    i have the console pre ordered off amazon, with the zelda game. do i need to buy the pro controller, or is the one that comes with it good enough ? or what would ye recommend


    From most reports I've seen and read, the joy-cons in the grip is more than good enough.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,656 ✭✭✭C14N


    hairball wrote: »
    I don't think it's main functionality is confusing at all. I reckon it comes across well in the advertising and I'd say that even if someone was unsure a quick in store demo would make it pretty clear.
    What's confusing exactly? It's a home console and a handheld.

    You can play it on your TV

    Or bring it with you

    The premise is rather basic? I see that a lot with people who play video games a lot (I don't like the term gamer) where they seem to think anyone outside their circle is a dunce who can't do a bit of googling should they need more information on something. For anyone confused these days it's fairly simple to find out what the switch is, either ask in GameStop and the staff will explain or just google "what is a Nintendo switch"

    The amount of controller configurations I can see being one thing. You've got seperate joycons, you've got one person using two, you've got them stuck to the sides of the device and you've got them locked onto the grip thing, on top of the Pro controller, which I think should probably have been sort of left out of the trailer because it isn't mandatory. It's also that it's a tablet but it's also quite different to what most people imagine when they think of a tablet. If it seems like it's trying to compete directly with Android and Apple tablets, then it's going to end up seeming like it lacks a lot of important features.

    It's not about people being "dunces". Anyone could figure it out if they want to. The issue is whether they would bother based on seeing it the first time or whether looking at it instantly just puts them off. The Wii U definitely did suffer from being confusing to most people. I've had to explain the Wii U to just about anyone I've played it with before who wasn't already a core gamer, because it's got a weird controller and seems like it's just an add-on for the Wii. Nobody ever questioned my PS3 or PS4 though, because it's very clear what it is and how it works.
    2smiggy wrote: »
    just a quick question,

    i have the console pre ordered off amazon, with the zelda game. do i need to buy the pro controller, or is the one that comes with it good enough ? or what would ye recommend

    No you don't need to, the functionality is identical to the joycon controller. You just might want to buy it if you think it looks more comfortable or if you want a second full controller for multiplayer modes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,363 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    The lack of information from Nintendo less than a month out in pretty worrying. Still nothing on Virtual Console and licence transfers/discounts. Same with online, it's making me think it's a rush job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    One of the things that most called our attention was knowing that the console in handheld mode, along with the Joy-Con will have mutual feedback.

    What does this mean? Well, when we play with the Nintendo switch in handheld mode with the Joy-Con, these can charge the console and viceversa. This will happen when some of those parts have low battery, this way we will be able to play some extra time. For example, if the battery of the console is at 10% and the joycons are at 100%, these will charge the console.

    So claims a spanish media outlet.

    https://juegosadn.eleconomista.es/nintendo-switch-y-los-joy-con-se-retroalimentan-mutuamente-no-102940/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,246 ✭✭✭✭sligeach




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭hairball


    C14N wrote: »
    The amount of controller configurations I can see being one thing. You've got seperate joycons, you've got one person using two, you've got them stuck to the sides of the device and you've got them locked onto the grip thing, on top of the Pro controller, which I think should probably have been sort of left out of the trailer because it isn't mandatory. It's also that it's a tablet but it's also quite different to what most people imagine when they think of a tablet. If it seems like it's trying to compete directly with Android and Apple tablets, then it's going to end up seeming like it lacks a lot of important features.

    It's not about people being "dunces". Anyone could figure it out if they want to. The issue is whether they would bother based on seeing it the first time or whether looking at it instantly just puts them off. The Wii U definitely did suffer from being confusing to most people. I've had to explain the Wii U to just about anyone I've played it with before who wasn't already a core gamer, because it's got a weird controller and seems like it's just an add-on for the Wii. Nobody ever questioned my PS3 or PS4 though, because it's very clear what it is and how it works.

    Yeah it's true the amount of configurations might be bewildering some people, but I still think that if the main concept, playing the same games uninterrupted wherever you are, is enough to hook people, they'll figure the rest out. The Wii U unfortunately suffered from poor marketing e.g the second screen's use being ill defined resulting in loads of confusion as to what it was exactly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    sligeach wrote: »

    So what? Thats the most riddiculous thing I read. You could have the biggest launch line up in history and have every single game be crap. 'Smallest in history' literally means nothing, now thats a clickbait article. PS4/XB1/360/PS3/DS/PS2 all had much larger launch line ups, yet somehow had maybe 2 games worth playing between them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 758 ✭✭✭Somedaythefire


    I should probably pre-order Zelda. Leaving it a bit late. I just know that if I do I'll pay the 70 feckin blips at gamestop and argos will sell it for 50.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,054 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    The lack of information from Nintendo less than a month out in pretty worrying. Still nothing on Virtual Console and licence transfers/discounts. Same with online, it's making me think it's a rush job.

    That has to be a worry alright - if everything was all done and dusted in terms of online features then they would have told us about it by now. That's probably why that side of things is going to be free for the first few months or whatever it is - there'll be bugger all to it.

    But as Cidey mentioned above - as an early adopter you should be prepared for features to be missing in the first few months. They have until they start charging folks to get their act together as far as online goes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    I am starting to wonder will they even have the eShop up & running at launch.
    The bare minimum you'd expect but it wouldn't surprise me if they don't which is embarrassing in 2017 tbh.
    I'd like some clarification before launch but this being Nintendo they probably explain that or the new online system.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,531 ✭✭✭magnumbud


    ERG89 wrote: »
    I am starting to wonder will they even have the eShop up & running at launch.
    The bare minimum you'd expect but it wouldn't surprise me if they don't which is embarrassing in 2017 tbh.
    I'd like some clarification before launch but this being Nintendo they probably explain that or the new online system.

    well since there are indie games due out on the 3rd which are digital only i'd say its a guarantee that the eshop with or without VC games will be up at launch


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