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Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

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http://kotaku.com/nintendos-next-console-is-code-named-the-nintendo-nx-1691867268

"As proof that Nintendo maintains strong enthusiasm for the dedicated game system business", Iwata adds, "let me confirm that Nintendo is currently developing a dedicated game platform with a brand new concept under the development codename 'NX'."

And...that's it. Iwata says Nintendo will share more information about the new hardware "next year".

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OwaynOTT

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

That's a problem alright.
For.a significant period of the WiiUs existence that was exactly what happened.

I'm hoping that key franchises like Fire Emblem, LoZ, Pokémon and Monster Hunter will bring in the 3DS punters and the rest will come.
Sales akin to Nintendo's handheld performance will bring the developers flocking.
The home gaming horde will follow when the console is making waves.

I don't think it's as simple as getting in the 3ds crowd to boast numbers and thus 3rd party will come and bring the big titles that will draw more people who don't own any Nintendo stuff.
3DS owners who have mario maker, pokemon, fire emblem, kirby, yoshi games etc, that come across to Switch aren't necessarily the market for big titles like Red Dead 2, Dark Souls. So mght not entice 3rd party to develop.
Sure we might see 3rd party 3ds developers developing similar titiles for the Swich, which could be great, but that might not draw many new users.
How many 3ds users also had a WiiU? No new sales there.
How many 3DS users bought more than 1? I know I did. Most of these won't buy more than one Switch.
How many crappy cheap 2DS were sold? They won't be getting the switch likely.

I don't think the Switch will do 3DS numbers. At best, I can see it doing half that, so circa 30 million. Which would be great but good enough for Nintendo and massive third party support.

Now I could be talking throw my hat and I hope I'm proving to be a complete numbskull and that the Switch just blows everyone away and draws in new users and lapsed Nintendo users.

CiDeRmAn

764dak wrote: »

But what if the Switch has high quality games but the games have poor sales?

That's a problem alright.
For.a significant period of the WiiUs existence that was exactly what happened.

I'm hoping that key franchises like Fire Emblem, LoZ, Pokémon and Monster Hunter will bring in the 3DS punters and the rest will come.
Sales akin to Nintendo's handheld performance will bring the developers flocking.
The home gaming horde will follow when the console is making waves.

MilesMorales1

fixxxer wrote: »

I'd like a trauma centre that wasn't quite as stupid hard as the Wii version. What was that Wii racing game that Nintendo released? I remember that being pretty good too.

The bus that wouldn't slow down?

764dak

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Just to give an example of my point
PS3 launch games
Blazing Angels: 66/100
CoD3: 80/100
Genji days of the blade: 55/100
Madden NFL 07: 76/100
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance: 73/100
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire: 33/100
NBA 2K7: 80/100
NHL 2K7: 73/100
Resistance: Fall of Man: 86/100 (a legacy score surely, this brown pile of sh1te is a terrible game)
Ridge Racer 7: 78/100
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07: 81/100
Tony Hawk's Project 8: 76/100

So, on average, a PS3 launch game was likely to be a 71% game.
Woohoo....
Break out the red lemonade and buns!

Rather than that big pile of m'eh on a hideously expensive console, €499 or €599, depending on getting the 20GB or 60GB model.

The Switch is launching with LoZ, a game series whose major releases have consistently been high scorers
http://www.metacritic.com/search/all/legend%20of%20zelda/results

But what if the Switch has high quality games but the games have poor sales?

CiDeRmAn

Digital Solitude wrote: »

It's bloody class, me and the gf have 40 hours since Saturday, it's just soul consuming

Would recommend.

Is sales tax added to that €45 Cidey?

It seems to be all inclusive.
It's a relatively cheap launch Switch game over there, about a fiver of that price is the shipping of around $7.50 CND.

TrustedApple

RasTa wrote: »

Why would you buy it again?

Why not?.

I have bought borderlands 2 on ps3 Ps4 Vita Xbox one and pc and I start it as a new game every time

Dabilo 3 the same mac, Ps4, 360 and Xbox one.

Sometimes you love the game that much you have to play it countless times of. Different platforms.

Here is another one of these games.

Games that I like I don't mind giveing the game makers more money for.

Digital Solitude

Andrew76 wrote: »

What's the story with all the different versions - Rebirth, Afterbirth, Afterbirth+? I see some folks over on the Gaming forum saying the latest version isn't the best?

Not that I have time to play it, my farm needs tending to in Stardew Valley.

Rebirth is a remake of the original, new stuff, 60fps and upgraded graphics.

Afterbirth is standard DLC, new characters, items, enemies etc

Afterbirth+ is more DLC, new content and makes modding easier afaik.

I've only had it since Saturday mind

Andrew76

Digital Solitude wrote: »

It's bloody class, me and the gf have 40 hours since Saturday, it's just soul consuming

Would recommend.

What's the story with all the different versions - Rebirth, Afterbirth, Afterbirth+? I see some folks over on the Gaming forum saying the latest version isn't the best?

Not that I have time to play it, my farm needs tending to in Stardew Valley.

fixXxer

I'd like a trauma centre that wasn't quite as stupid hard as the Wii version. What was that Wii racing game that Nintendo released? I remember that being pretty good too.

Edit:
Excite Truck!! Man that game was awesome. Even better when I realised I could put speed metal on an SD card and race to that instead of the ingame music.

Digital Solitude

hairball wrote: »

It's that good? Never tried it. Those who have seem passionate about it.

It's bloody class, me and the gf have 40 hours since Saturday, it's just soul consuming

Would recommend.

Is sales tax added to that €45 Cidey?

CiDeRmAn

I'm a massive fan of twin stick shooters, with Robotron one of my all time favourites.
My 13 year old is a big fan of Binding of Isaac and has explained its hidden depths, both literal and figurative.
It is that good.
Well worth getting a cheap copy on Steam to try it out.

hairball

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Right, just preordered Binding of Isaac for the Switch from Videogamesplus in lovely Canada...
Cost around €45 including shipping.
I don't expect it to arrive in time for launch day though, but it'll be great to have such a cracking game on a physical cart.

It's that good? Never tried it. Those who have seem passionate about it.

CiDeRmAn

I'm happy with it.
I bought Cave Story 3D for nice moneys for my 3DS and it still gets mad money, even though it can be had digitally for a lot less.
There's a value in a physical copy over a digital one, especially if the game is a significant one.
While Binding of Isaac is going to be released on a cart in the North America, it is not certain that it is anything but digital in the rest of the world.
If that continues, the Binding of Isaac could be, like Cave Story 3D, worth quite a bit in years to come.
Either way, I'm pleased to have it ordered.
At least I know the quality of the experience I'm paying for, I've spent a lot more on games that ultimately turned out to be either awful or painfully boring.

sligeach

RasTa wrote: »

Yeah but €45 is too high imo and he already has it on handheld.

Fiver or tenner seems reasonable

That's a bit low even if it is dirt cheap on other platforms. It should probably be €20-25. There's a few publishers trying to exploit early Switch buyers. Konami and Capcom can go and do one as well. W@nk€r$!

Digital Solitude

Corholio wrote: »

5 or 10 for a physical cart on a new system?

Given it's like €25 on Steam for Afterbirth and Rebirth €45 isn't by too bad.

It's also Nintendo which puts the price up

Corholio

RasTa wrote: »

Yeah but €45 is too high imo and he already has it on handheld.

Fiver or tenner seems reasonable

5 or 10 for a physical cart on a new system?

RasTa

Digital Solitude wrote: »

To play it on the Switch?

I must have bought Dark Souls 5 times at this stage

Yeah but €45 is too high imo and he already has it on handheld.

Fiver or tenner seems reasonable

Digital Solitude

RasTa wrote: »

Why would you buy it again?

To play it on the Switch?

I must have bought Dark Souls 5 times at this stage

OwaynOTT

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Right, just preordered Binding of Isaac for the Switch from Videogamesplus in lovely Canada...
Cost around €45 including shipping.
I don't expect it to arrive in time for launch day though, but it'll be great to have such a cracking game on a physical cart.

We not getting a physical cart here in europeland?

RasTa

TrustedApple wrote: »

Yes I would consider it 45 euros great I have it on the Xbox Ps4 Vita and soon to be switch.

Love the game a lot

Why would you buy it again?

fixXxer

RasTa wrote:

Is anyone on here buying a Switch at launch that doesn't own a Wii-U?

Mise.

TrustedApple

RasTa wrote: »

€45 great?

Yes I would consider it 45 euros great I have it on the Xbox Ps4 Vita and soon to be switch.

Love the game a lot

Sarn

RasTa wrote: »

Is anyone on here buying a Switch at launch that doesn't own a Wii-U?

Me as well. I didn't pick up a Wii U, hummed and hawed the entire time and then the NX was announced. I even own an amiibo and have nothing to use it on.

I'm justifying the day one purchase on the basis that I have all the money that I didn't spend on the Wii U to spend on it. Might as well get in at the start!

RasTa

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Right, just preordered Binding of Isaac for the Switch from Videogamesplus in lovely Canada...
Cost around €45 including shipping.
I don't expect it to arrive in time for launch day though, but it'll be great to have such a cracking game on a physical cart.

€45 great?

CiDeRmAn

Right, just preordered Binding of Isaac for the Switch from Videogamesplus in lovely Canada...
Cost around €45 including shipping.
I don't expect it to arrive in time for launch day though, but it'll be great to have such a cracking game on a physical cart.

CiDeRmAn

Just to give an example of my point
PS3 launch games
Blazing Angels: 66/100
CoD3: 80/100
Genji days of the blade: 55/100
Madden NFL 07: 76/100
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance: 73/100
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire: 33/100
NBA 2K7: 80/100
NHL 2K7: 73/100
Resistance: Fall of Man: 86/100 (a legacy score surely, this brown pile of sh1te is a terrible game)
Ridge Racer 7: 78/100
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07: 81/100
Tony Hawk's Project 8: 76/100

So, on average, a PS3 launch game was likely to be a 71% game.
Woohoo....
Break out the red lemonade and buns!

Rather than that big pile of m'eh on a hideously expensive console, €499 or €599, depending on getting the 20GB or 60GB model.

The Switch is launching with LoZ, a game series whose major releases have consistently been high scorers
http://www.metacritic.com/search/all/legend%20of%20zelda/results

That_Guy

RasTa wrote: »

Is anyone on here buying a Switch that doesn't own a Wii-U?

Me.

RasTa

Is anyone on here buying a Switch at launch that doesn't own a Wii-U?

CiDeRmAn

sligeach wrote: »

Facts are facts. Just because you don't like them, well I can't do anything about that.

To quote the article you linked to

Nintendo is amping up the hype for the Switch, but historically it has the weakest lineup seen in decades.

And that is an opinion.
Not a fact.
The article is even referred to as "analysis" which is simply the authors opinion.
He or she is basing the article on their own subjective analysis of the facts as they see them.

The author almost immediately equates the quantity of games being released for the Switch on launch with the quality of the games.
And that's the fallacy the article is built upon, which means the rest of it's conclusions are also false, or only correct accidentally.

A better piece would have been to look at the review scores for the various launch games and derive an average from there, but that would have required a little work so hardly surprising this lazy journo didn't bother.

And, just to be contrary, the DS had nothing to compete against save the PSP and it's own predecessor, it was almost inevitable it was going to own the handheld market.
The Switch is entering a market with three competing systems, XB1, PS4 and PC, not to mention it's competing with it's own predecessor, the 3DS.

That_Guy

Those who have pre-ordered will always defend their purchase.

Those who don't pre-order will always find articles/reasons to justify their reason for not pre-ordering.

It's a boring back and forth at this stage.

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I've pre-ordered because I want this console to do well, I'm on the go a lot which helps increase my gaming time, new Zelda (short sighted reason perhaps but still... It's Zelda), it genuinely looks like a solid piece of kit and because I am excited about this console.

I've got my concerns like most and the questions I have are not as yet answered but my excitement is over ruling my concerns right now. Could be blind optimism on my part but I want to believe that this console can truly succeed and be great.

The internet is a funny place at times. You can always find a post/article that backs up your opinion on nearly every topic.

There's probably a hundred reasons why I shouldn't have pre-ordered and paid off my Switch but there's equally 100 reasons why I'm probably justified in doing so.