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super_furry · 30-01-2017 09:31PM

Sean Spicer on the detained Iranian five-year-old child - "To assume that because of someone's age or gender they don't pose a threat is misguided and wrong."

B_Wayne · 30-01-2017 09:32PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

If I had to guess I'd say it would either be a measure that changes the way they are taxed or a measure that waters down the right to be married. I won;t get too excited until there is something official though.

One that it's suspected to be is the protection against discrimination for those employed by federal contractors. Pretty sure he couldn't water down marriage as it went to the supreme court so not something an executive order could go after. The thing is, I expect the exact same people presently praising Trump to continue to do so.

Timberrrrrrrr · 30-01-2017 09:33PM

super_furry wrote: »

Sean Spicer on the detained Iranian five-year-old child - "To assume that because of someone's age or gender they don't pose a threat is misguided and wrong."

Well to be fair there are more Americans killed by toddlers every year than there are Islamist terrorists

Leroy42 · 30-01-2017 09:37PM

LGBT is, after terrorism, one of the main reasons why America is not great.

Just look at all those muslim countries with no gay people taking over the world. Since those Gays moved to America after 1958 is all went downhill

I think... either that or Mexicans.

Zubeneschamali · 30-01-2017 09:40PM

Trump promised to back the First Amendment Defense Act which will allow employers to fire gays for being gay if they say Jesus told them to.

If an anti-gay EO is coming, it is probably related.

tonycascarino · 30-01-2017 09:43PM

super_furry wrote: »

Sean Spicer on the detained Iranian five-year-old child - "To assume that because of someone's age or gender they don't pose a threat is misguided and wrong."

Which is fair enough. Nobody suspects the butterfly.

wes · 30-01-2017 09:46PM

super_furry wrote: »

Sean Spicer on the detained Iranian five-year-old child - "To assume that because of someone's age or gender they don't pose a threat is misguided and wrong."

Comical Spicer, the man who doesn't grasp, what the Onion does, and has some sort of bizarre feud with dippin dots ice cream.

A Little Pony · 30-01-2017 09:50PM

Love the Trump administration! So many characters and talking points.

HellSquirrel · 30-01-2017 10:00PM

Yeah, this has all got beyond a game. He is doing real damage to his own country and to other countries. This is beyond right vs left or squabbles, it's nose-dived into actually dangerous territory.

And for all their arrogance about being the best, the leaders of the free world (regardless of what the rest of said "free world" thinks about it), the bringers of democracy etc etc, it is rather tragic to see it happening to the United States.

BabyCheeses · 30-01-2017 10:12PM

Deleted User wrote: »

So many people now care about drones and all that craic now. America might finally stop acting the dick in the next few years.

Now they are electing people who have killing innocents as policy.

BabyCheeses · 30-01-2017 10:14PM

listermint wrote: »

Hank will be along shortly.

First they came after the... and i....

I'm sure he'll find a way out of dropping support for Trump. It is a religious freedom EO, not anti-gay.

Hank Scorpio · 30-01-2017 10:16PM

HellSquirrel wrote: »

Yeah, this has all got beyond a game. He is doing real damage to his own country and to other countries. This is beyond right vs left or squabbles, it's nose-dived into actually dangerous territory.

And for all their arrogance about being the best, the leaders of the free world (regardless of what the rest of said "free world" thinks about it), the bringers of democracy etc etc, it is rather tragic to see it happening to the United States.

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/825901888017199105

kunst nugget · 30-01-2017 10:16PM

tonycascarino wrote: »

Which is fair enough. Nobody suspects the butterfly.

Is that lobotomy reversible?

jobbridge4life · 30-01-2017 10:18PM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/825901888017199105

Hank, 2 questions for you.

1. Was/is (dronings continue, Trump approved intervention in Yemen killing children) the first wrong?

2. Is the second wrong?

Yes/no to each please.

BabyCheeses · 30-01-2017 10:19PM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/825901888017199105

Wikileaks still showing themselves to be totally unbiased.

jobbridge4life · 30-01-2017 10:23PM

Anti LGBT executive order gaining further (and even further) credence.

https://twitter.com/joshrogin/status/826174682915287045

super_furry · 30-01-2017 10:26PM

Why the fcuk would Trump try and take away the rights of gay people? Just doesn't make any sense to me, unless, he's not calling the shots.

BabyCheeses · 30-01-2017 10:26PM

Ok, hands up who expected republicans to reduce the rights of LGBT people and were called crazy because Trump held up a flag?

Billy86 · 30-01-2017 10:28PM

Spicer using the mass murder of Muslims in a mosque (that had been vandalised, and a pigs head left outside the door only a month ago - e.g. not an isolated incident), by a far right lunatic who is one of his own supporters, as some kind of justification for the cowardly "Muslims states that Trump's family doesn't suckle at teet of" order over the weekend, we're reaching new lows daily.

“It’s a terrible reminder of why we must remain vigilant, and why the president is taking steps to be proactive, rather than reactive,” said White House press secretary Sean Spicer on Monday.

Utter scum, this will not in any way end well and is only going to encourage extremists on both sides to carry out more violence.

jobbridge4life · 30-01-2017 10:29PM

BabyCheeses wrote: »

Ok, hands up who expected republicans to reduce the rights of LGBT people and were called crazy because Trump held up a flag?

I mean it is almost like a vast bulk of his supporters, apologists and acolytes were low information voters with no clue what they were doing?

Don't @ me

Trent Houseboat · 30-01-2017 10:40PM

Keep your outrage bottled up until we see the order if there is one.
If I was part of Trump's team of deplorables, I'd see value in floating a rumour that LGBT communities were next up for attack to distract from the latest f*ck up, only to have it turn out to be false to discredit hysterical liberal babies.

dudara · 30-01-2017 10:46PM

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Trump promised to back the First Amendment Defense Act which will allow employers to fire gays for being gay if they say Jesus told them to.

If an anti-gay EO is coming, it is probably related.

That actually makes sense. A lot of Republican policy is driven by Conservative Christianity. Giving back hardcore Christians the right to fire a gay employee or deny services to a gay person is exactly the kind of rust belt-pleasing policy that he'd enact

Billy86 · 30-01-2017 10:49PM

dudara wrote: »

That actually makes sense. A lot of Republican policy is driven by Conservative Christianity. Giving back hardcore Christians the right to fire a gay employee or deny services to a gay person is exactly the kind of rust belt-pleasing policy that he'd enact

I'd associate that more with Bible Belt than rust belt, to be fair. The rust belt makes up a good few places like Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania, etc which -while having their share of right wingers because this is the US we're talking about- are as overall societies not really all that regressive. Many of them were just single issue voters (jobs) who let themselves be conned by someone with zero interest in their well being as evidenced throughout his adult life.

MightyMandarin · 30-01-2017 10:52PM

dudara wrote: »

That actually makes sense. A lot of Republican policy is driven by Conservative Christianity. Giving back hardcore Christians the right to fire a gay employee or deny services to a gay person is exactly the kind of rust belt-pleasing policy that he'd enact

Don't forget who the VP is. He was chosen precisely to give peace of mind to the evangelicals. This is something he'd want, not just large factions of the GOP.

jobbridge4life · 30-01-2017 10:52PM

Trent Houseboat wrote: »

Keep your outrage bottled up until we see the order if there is one.
If I was part of Trump's team of deplorables, I'd see value in floating a rumour that LGBT communities were next up for attack to distract from the latest f*ck up, only to have it turn out to be false to discredit hysterical liberal babies.

Firstly, I haven't indugled in outrage. I posted, with comments that indicated the need for calm and consideration that these are rumours as yet unconfirmed.

But secondly...

No. Flatly no.

We are outraged. All people of conscience, rightly so, and not because the particulars affect us personally but because of what he and his 'many illegal executive orders' (Donald J Trump TM) have done and said .

'Take him seriously but not literally'... **** NO. Wrong then, wrong now.

The kind of people going to say or be taken in by the rhetoric you state want this. They want it now or later, but they want it.

strandroad · 30-01-2017 10:59PM

super_furry wrote: »

Why the fcuk would Trump try and take away the rights of gay people? Just doesn't make any sense to me, unless, he's not calling the shots.

Because he has such people behind him. It's not a short read, but very enlightening.

http://www.autostraddle.com/i-was-trained-for-the-culture-wars-in-home-school-awaiting-someone-like-mike-pence-as-a-messiah-367057/

ChikiChiki · 30-01-2017 11:04PM

super_furry wrote: »

Why the fcuk would Trump try and take away the rights of gay people? Just doesn't make any sense to me, unless, he's not calling the shots.

The more I read into the this the more it looks like Putin has him under his whip and he is completely compromised somewhat. The pace of the decisions he is making is shocking altogether and they are not thought out properly.

Truly disturbing rumours if true to be honest but it is gaining a lot of traction this evening. Im only waiting for the executive order demanding all US MNCs come home at this point which would cripple Ireland.

Ulysses Gaze · 30-01-2017 11:08PM

Well if The Donald and his (Un) Merry Men continue along this path, how long before even the Republicans look to try and impeach him for some reason?

Trent Houseboat · 30-01-2017 11:21PM

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Firstly, I haven't indugled in outrage. I posted, with comments that indicated the need for calm and consideration that these are rumours as yet unconfirmed.

But secondly...

No. Flatly no.

We are outraged . All people of conscience, rightly so, and not because the particulars affect us personally but because of what he and his 'many illegal executive orders' (Donald J Trump TM) have done and said .

'Take him seriously but not literally'... **** NO. Wrong then, wrong now.

The kind of people going to say or be taken in by the rhetoric you state want this. They want it now or later, but they want it.

The bold parts are funny.

I wasn't singling you out, there just seems to be a common acceptance creeping in that there is an anti-LGBT executive order imminent based on nothing concrete and I wouldn't put such disinformation as I mentioned past this administration.
Even if there was one planned, they might shelve it in light of preemptive backlash(I'd say Conway is jealous of that term I just made up) to dust it off later when they're not already reeling from one deplorable decision.

By all means should he attempt to introduce legislation to discriminate against LGBT communities we should all speak up.

Stheno · 30-01-2017 11:23PM

dudara wrote: »

That actually makes sense. A lot of Republican policy is driven by Conservative Christianity. Giving back hardcore Christians the right to fire a gay employee or deny services to a gay person is exactly the kind of rust belt-pleasing policy that he'd enact

Do they not have legislation in place to protect the rights of LGBT employees?

Can he really just overturn that with an EO if it is there?

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