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February 2017 Boards weather forecast contest

  • 29-01-2017 6:39am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,583 ✭✭✭✭


    1. Predict the IMT (Irish Mean Temperature), the average for five locations, Claremorris, Mullingar, Casement, Oak Park and Shannon. The 1981-2010 normal value is 5.3 C. (max 25 points)

    2. Predict the MAX (highest temperature at any regular reporting site as confirmed in the Monthly Summary of Met-Eireann) during January. (max 20 points)

    3. Predict the MIN (lowest temperature etc, see above) (max 20 points)

    4. Predict the PRC (rainfall and liquid equivalent of any frozen precip) as a percentage of normal values. The baseline for this is a grid of eleven stations, the five mentioned in part one above, and also Belmullet, Malin Head, Valentia, Ballyhaise, Johnstown Castle, and Cork. (max 15 points)

    5. Predict the SUN (sunshine) as a percentage of normal values at six locations (Casement, Dublin, Belmullet, Cork, Shannon, Valentia). (max 10 points)

    6. For a BONUS question, predict the maximum temperature in Ireland on the 14th, and give a location. (max 10 points, 8 for the temperature, 2 for the location, 2 and 1 point superbonus points available).

    Enter by the deadline of 0300h Wednesday 1st of February, after which penalties run at 1 point every 3h or portion late to 1800h 2nd (at this point the penalty stands at 15 points) then 1 point per hour after that.

    Good luck!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    sryanbruen __________ 6.6 _ 15.0_ -2.0 _ 140_ 90_ 12.0c Valentia Observatory


  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭sunflower3


    Sunflower3 __________ 5.8 _ 14.5_ -3.4 _ 150_ 100_ 11.0c Claremorris


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭200motels


    200motels_______________ 5.4__13.5__-4.5__129__88__7.4 Valentia


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭Bsal


    Bsal __________ 5.5 _ 14.0_ -4.0 _ 125_ 93_ 13.0c Valentia


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    sryanbruen __________ 6.6 _ 15.0_ -2.0 _ 140_ 90_ 12.0c Valentia Observatory

    EDIT: sryanbruen __________ 5.8 _ 15.0_ -5.0 _ 90_ 110_ 12.0c Valentia Observatory

    Cooler, drier and sunnier than what I was anticipating.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭dacogawa


    Dacogawa__________ 5.1__13.9__-4.9__110__95__10.6 Valentia


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭kindredspirit


    Kindred Spirit. ___ 6.3 ___14.7 ___ -4.8 ___ 120 ___ 100 ___ 11.5 Phoenix Park.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    DOCARCH __________ 5.8 _ 14.6_ -5.2 _ 85_ 105_ 11.1c Mace Head


  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Tae laidir ______________ 5.5 _ 13.8 _ -4.5 _ 115 _ 112 ____ 8.5 _ Shannon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭Joe Public


    Joe Public ______4.9 _ 13.9 _ -5.9 _ 145 _ 80 ____ 11.9 _ Roches Point


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭John mac


    john mac_______________ 5.2__12.2__-5.3__107__92__8.3 shannon


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭Lumi


    Lumi ______ 5.6 _ 14.0 _ -6.0 _ 115 _ 90 ____ 9.9 _ Shannon


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,467 Mod ✭✭✭✭mickger844posts


    mickger844posts __________ 5.8 _ 12.6_ -5.2 _ 89_ 110_ 9.1c Mace Head


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    Jpmarn __________ 6.1_ 13.6_ -5.9 _ 120_ 105_ 11.2c Valentia


  • Registered Users Posts: 572 ✭✭✭dasa29


    Dasa29 __________ 5.3 _ 13.5_ -3.0 _ 110_ 95_ 13.0c Mullingar


  • Registered Users Posts: 377 ✭✭waterways


    waterways__________ 5.4__13.7__-6.3__118__93__8.0 Caherdaniel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 394 ✭✭mrskinner


    Skinner_____5.3____14.4____-5.1____125____100____11°Valentia


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    JCX BX__________ 6.4_ 15_ -3.0 _ 130_ 110_ 11.5c Valentia Observatory


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,583 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    M.T. Cranium ________ 4.9 __ 13.8 __ --6.5 __ 135 __ 105 ___ 10.5 Malin Head


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,174 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Pauldry ________ 5.8 __ 14.0__ -4.6 __ 124__ 100___ 12.6 Valencia[/QUOTE]


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭rameire


    Rameire_______________ 5.9__14.0__-3.5__102__92__9.4 Valentia

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Split 2.28S, 1.52E. 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,583 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Table of forecasts for February 2017


    FORECASTER _______ IMT _ MAX _ MIN _ PRC _ SUN ___ Max 14th _ loc'n

    JCX BXC ____________6.4 _ 15.0 _ --3.0 _ 130 _ 110 ___ 11.5 __ Val
    Kindred Spirit _______ 6.3 _ 14.7 _ --4.8 _ 120 _ 100 ___ 11.5 __ Ph Park
    Jpmarn ____________ 6.1 _ 13.6 _ --5.9 _ 120 _ 105 ___ 11.2 __ Val
    Rikand ____ (-6) ____ 6.0 _ 16.0 _ --6.0 _ 090 _ 110 ___ 12.0 __ Sherkin
    Rameire ___ (-3) ____ 5.9 _ 14.0 _ --3.5 _ 102 _ 092 ____ 9.4 __ Val
    sryanbruen _________ 5.8 _ 15.0 _ --5.0 _ 090 _ 110 ___ 12.0 __ Val
    DOCARCH __________ 5.8 _ 14.6 _ --5.2 _ 085 _ 105 ___ 11.1 __ Mace Hd
    Sunflower3 _________ 5.8 _ 14.5 _ --3.4 _ 150 _ 100 ___ 11.0 __ Clar
    Pauldry ____________ 5.8 _ 14.0 _ --4.6 _ 124 _ 100 ___ 12.6 __ Val
    mickger844posts_____ 5.8 _ 12.6 _ --5.2 _ 089 _ 110 ____ 9.1 __ Mace Hd
    Lumi ______________ 5.6 _ 14.0 _ --6.0 _ 115 _ 090 ____ 9.9 __ Shan

    Con Sensus _________5.6 _ 14.0 _ --5.0 _ 119 _ 100 ___ 11.0 __ Val

    Bsal _______________5.5 _ 14.0 _ --4.0 _ 125 _ 093 ___ 13.0 __ Val
    Tae laidir ___________5.5 _ 13.8 _ --4.5 _ 115 _ 112 ____ 8.5 __ Shan
    waterways__________ 5.4 _ 13.7 _ --6.3 _ 118 _ 093 ____ 8.0 __ Caherdaniel*
    200motels__________ 5.4 _ 13.5 _ --4.5 _ 129 _ 088 ____ 7.4 __ Val

    NormaL ____________ 5.3 _ 15.0 _ --7.0 _ 100 _ 100 ___ 11.5 __ ??

    MrSkinner __________ 5.3 _ 14.4 _ --5.1 _ 125 _ 100 ___ 11.0 __ Val
    Dasa29 ____________ 5.3 _ 13.5 _ --3.0 _ 110 _ 095 ___ 13.0 __ Mull
    john mac___________ 5.2 _ 12.2 _ --5.3 _ 107 _ 092 ____ 8.3 __ Shan
    Dacogawa__________ 5.1 _ 13.9 _ --4.9 _ 110 _ 095 ___ 10.6 __ Val
    Joe Public __________ 4.9 _ 13.9 _ --5.9 _ 145 _ 080 ___ 11.9 __ RochPt
    M.T. Cranium _______ 4.9 _ 13.8 _ --6.5 _ 135 _ 105 ___ 10.5 __ Malin Hd
    ____________________________________________

    * for this location I think Sherkin Island might be closest?

    In general, a rather average sort of February, although rather wet, is foreseen and the expectation for warmest location is mostly in the southwest, Valentia got 9 of 21 votes, Shannon got 3, Sherkin now at 2 and Roches Point had 1, then away from the southwest, Mace Head had two supporters, and Mullingar, Claremorris, Malin Head and Phoenix Park had one each. The consensus will be adjusted if any other forecasts are entered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,421 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    dammit forgot

    Rikand _____ 6.0 ____ 16.0 _____ -6.0 _____ 90 _____ 110 _____ 12.0 - Sherkin Island


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,583 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    12.5 on 1st at Valentia.

    Euro says, how low can you go? Indications of -8 C potential inland east in 8-10 d. GFS more like -6.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,583 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    That 12.5 was repeated at two stations on the 2nd.

    You may see a low of -3.9 for Mullingar yesterday, that was probably at midnight because I saw -5 on the 0600h report from there. And I never looked at 0700h. So expect something fairly low to be reported for today.


  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Mullingar -5.6 confirmed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,421 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    Tae laidir wrote: »
    Mullingar -5.6 confirmed.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,174 ✭✭✭pauldry


    13.3c recorded max

    Min could go lower the next week or so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,583 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    After the first week ...

    IMT on 5.1 C which is 0.2 below normal.

    PRC was 115% of normal.

    SUN was 113.7% of normal.

    MAX 13.3, MIN --5.6

    IMT will probably dip below 4.0 at some point then recover a bit. PRC will fall off, SUN may stay about where it is now, MIN likely to fall.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,174 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Shannon and Moorepark are leading the way on 13c so far

    Can 14 on the 14th be reached?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    Some answers to our bonus question. We had pleasant romantically high temperatures of 13.5 C at Shannon Airport. 12.9 Moorepark and 12.4 at Valentia. Most stations in the southern half of the country temperature made double figures at best but the failed in the northern half. Even in the Dublin area there were big difference in the highs there. Casement made 10.1c but Airport only made 7.8 with Phoenix Park a degree higher.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,583 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    After the second week ...

    IMT on 4.7 with the second week rather cold, 4.3 C which is 1.1 deg below average.

    PRC now at 79% with the second week generally dry (apart from Dublin) at 42%.

    SUN is now bang on normal (100.1%) with the second week at 86.5% (Valentia quite sunny at 154%).

    MAX now 13.5 (Shannon, 14th) as mentioned above with regard to the bonus.

    As Valentia came in third and Moore Park was not guessed, I thought it might be fair to tweak the scoring with seven points for the temperature and three for the location, giving three to the Shannon guesses and one point for Valentia.

    Those getting seven points for the temperature portion will be Bsal and Dasa29 who were closest at 13.0, as well as Pauldry (12.6). Those at 11.9 to 12.0 will have six points, (Rikand, sryanbruen and Joe Public), then the next three (JCX BXC, Kindred Spirit, Jpmarn also NormaL) get five points, DOCARCH, sunflower3 and Mr Skinner at four along with Con Sensus, Dacogawa, M.T.Cranium and Lumi with three, Rameire, mickger844posts and Tae laidir with two and John mac, waterways and 200motels with the lowest three guesses sharing one point.

    Three points for location are added on for Lumi (6), Tae laidir (5) and John mac (4) so nobody qualified for the two point superbonus, and one point will be added to all those who guessed Valentia (about half the field), with Bsal and Pauldry qualifying for one additional superbonus point. So that brings them to 9 points.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,583 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    New MAX of 14.3 at Casement on Friday 17th.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Looks like it'll be broken tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,583 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    The 14.3 MAX was tied rather than broken, at Roches Point on Sunday 19th.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Cork Airport reported 15c (rounded) today so I'd say the max has been broken.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,583 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Yes, 14.5 confirmed at Cork, most other numbers not yet posted (as of 0500h, will check the full list around 0900h). Third week summary tomorrow. Looks like a rather bumpy ride to the finish line, but milder end of forecasts probably will do well.

    I don't think rain or sunshine will be very far from average.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,583 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    14.9 MAX at Roches Point (20th).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,421 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    Another degree required to compensate me for my tardy entry :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,583 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    You'll do fine with your higher IMT.

    Week three update, almost forgot (thanks to Doris) ...

    IMT is already up to 6.2, with this past week at an average value of 9.4 C which is a full 3.8 above normal for the week. This may come down slightly by end of the month but not much if at all.

    PRC before today was at 76% with the third week rather dry (69%) -- I estimate that this now stands at 83%, so the fourth week will need to be about 1.5 times normal to bring the month up to 100%.

    SUN during the past week was a meagre 36.7% dragging the month down to 79% of normal. That may improve slightly or stay about the same in the rather turbulent period ahead. Turbulence at least breaks up some of the cloud. :)

    Max and min have been discussed in previous posts. Stay safe.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,583 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    After four weeks and for the final February figures (to be confirmed with monthly summary tomorrow) ...

    IMT finished on 6.3 C with the fourth week also on that value which was 0.4 above normal for the period. The month was more like 0.9 above normal.

    PRC for the week was 181% which gives an estimate of 102% of normal for the month.

    SUN for the week was 85.2% and the monthly estimate is 81% of normal.

    I will confirm all values tomorrow and post some scoring. March contest in a separate thread (if you haven't already entered).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,583 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    The final values confirmed in the MS are:

    IMT ..... 6.3 C

    MAX ... 14.9 C

    MIN .. --5.6 C

    PRC .. 104%

    SUN ... 80%

    Scoring tables up within the hour, I hope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,583 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Scoring for February 2017


    FORECASTER _______ IMT_MAX_MIN_PRC_SUN __ Bonus __ TOTALS

    Kindred Spirit _______ 25 _ 18 _ 14 _ 10 _ 06 ___ 5 _ 0 ______ 78
    sryanbruen _________ 20 _ 19 _ 16 _ 10 _ 04 ___ 6 _ 1 ______ 76
    DOCARCH __________ 20 _ 17 _ 18 _ 09 _ 05 ___ 4 _ 0 ______ 73
    Lumi ______________ 18 _ 11 _ 18 _ 11 _ 08 ___ 3 _ 3 ______ 72
    Jpmarn ____________ 23 _ 07 _ 19 _ 10 _ 05 ___ 5 _ 1 ______ 70

    NormaL ____________15 _ 19 _ 08 _ 14 _ 06 ___ 5 _ 1 ______ 68

    Pauldry ____________20 _ 11 _ 12 _ 08 _ 06 ___ 7 _ 1+1 ____ 66
    MrSkinner __________15 _ 15 _ 17 _ 08 _ 06 ___ 4 _ 1 ______ 66

    Con Sensus _________18 _ 11 _ 16 _ 10 _ 06 ___ 4 _ 1 ______ 66

    Rikand ____ (-6) ____ 22 _ 09 _ 18 _ 10 _ 04 ___ 6 _ 0 __ 69-6=63
    Dacogawa__________ 13 _ 10 _ 15 _ 13 _ 07 ___ 3 _ 1 ______ 62
    JCX BXC ___________ 24 _ 19 _ 01 _ 06 _ 04 ___ 5 _ 1 ______ 60

    john mac___________ 14 _ 00 _ 19 _ 14 _ 08 ___ 1 _ 3 ______ 59
    Bsal _______________17 _ 11 _ 06 _ 08 _ 07 ___ 7 _ 1+1 ____ 58
    waterways__________ 16 _ 08 _ 15 _ 10 _ 07 ___ 1 _ 1 ______ 58
    Joe Public __________ 11 _ 10 _ 19 _ 01 _ 10 ___ 6 _ 0 ______ 57
    Tae laidir ___________17 _ 09 _ 11 _ 11 _ 04 ___ 2 _ 3 ______ 57
    Rameire ___ (-3) ____ 21 _ 11 _ 02 _ 14 _ 08 ___ 2 _ 1 __ 59-3=56
    mickger844posts_____ 20 _ 00 _ 18 _ 10 _ 04 ___ 2 _ 0 ______ 54
    200motels__________ 16 _ 06 _ 11 _ 07 _ 09 ___ 1 _ 1 ______ 51

    Dasa29 ____________ 15 _ 06 _ 01 _ 13 _ 07 ___ 7 _ 0 ______ 49
    Sunflower3 _________ 20 _ 16 _ 02 _ 00 _ 06 ___ 4 _ 0 ______ 48
    M.T. Cranium _______ 11 _ 09 _ 13 _ 05 _ 05 ___ 3 _ 0 ______ 46
    ____________________________________________

    note that a slight boost of two points was given on MIN scores to achieve minimum progression, points for four raw scores of zero were allocated in rank order, basically everybody got two extra points except the two warmest who got one extra. And in the SUN column, with one score of 10 and nobody at 9, the best of the 8's moved up to 9.

    Congrats then to Kindred Spirit, sryanbruen and DOCARCH for medal performances this month, scoring generally quite good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,583 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Annual scoring 2017 and winter portion of four seasons 2016-17

    Dec 2016 scores will be dropped from this table next month, they are here to fill out the winter totals.

    rank/
    __ FORECASTER ____ (Dec) __ JAN _ FEB ___ 2017 TOTAL ___ Winter Total (pts)

    t01 pauldry _________ (68) ___ 74 __ 66 _____ 140 ________ 208 ___ 10
    t01 Jpmarn _________ (60) ___ 70 __ 70 _____ 140 ________ 200 ____ 6

    03 Kindred Spirit _____ (44) ___ 54 __ 78 _____ 132 ________ 176 ____ 1
    04 Lumi ____________ (66) ___ 57 __ 72 _____ 129 ________ 195 ____ 5 (t)
    05 mickger844posts ___(42) ___ 74 __ 54 _____ 128 ________ 170 ____ 1

    06 Con Sensus _______(61) ___ 59 __ 66 _____ 125 ________ 186 ____ 3

    06 Tae laidir _________(76) ___ 68 __ 57 _____ 125 ________ 201 ____ 7
    07 DOCARCH ________(58) ___ 47 __ 73 _____ 120 ________ 178 ____ 2
    t08 sryanbruen ______ (41) ___ 43 __ 76 _____ 119 ________ 160
    t08 Rikand __________(53) ___ 54 __ 63 _____ 117 ________ 170 ____ 1
    10 John mac ________ (46) ___ 58 __ 59 _____ 117 ________ 163
    11 MrSkinner ________(79) ___ 50 __ 66 _____ 116 ________ 195 ____ 5 (t)
    12 200motels ________(61) ___ 64 __ 51 _____ 115 ________ 176 ____ 1
    13 Rameire _________ (56) ___ 57 __ 56 _____ 113 ________ 169

    14 NormaL _________ (81) ___ 43 __ 68 _____ 111 ________ 192 ____ 3

    14 Dacogawa ________(51) ___ 46 __ 62 _____ 108 ________ 159
    15 waterways _______ (41) ___ 49 __ 58 _____ 107 ________ 148
    15 Bsal ____________ (50) ___ 49 __ 58 _____ 107 ________ 157
    17 Dasa29 __________(33) ___ 55 __ 49 _____ 104 ________ 137
    18 M.T. Cranium _____ (62) ___ 53 __ 46 ______ 99 ________ 161
    19 sunflower3 _______ (89) ___ 46 __ 48 ______ 94 ________ 183 ____ 3
    20 Joe Public ________ (69) ___ 36 __ 57 ______ 93 ________ 162
    21 JCX BXC _________ (--) ___ --- __ 60 ______ 60

    =================================================
    =================================================

    (Four seasons, totals Dec - Feb are then awarded points, ten for top score and then seven for 2nd, six for 3rd etc, down to 1 point for each of 8th, 9th and 10th. Two were tied for 10th so there are in fact eleven people with points. If your seasonal score was below 170, no points for you.

    As to the annual scoring, Pauldry and Jpmarn are setting the pace with an average of 70 for the first two months. Not too big a spread yet, everyone in with a chance, and remember, the main contest drops your two worst scores so if you've missed a month, keep playing and you still have one other score to drop even if you have that missed month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,583 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    The numbers in the above table are all okay but the ranks were inserted with errors between 8th and 10th place.

    In fact the tie was not for 8th place, Sryanbruen has that alone, the tie was 9th between Rikand and John mac.

    Means nothing to the actual data in the tables, carry on.


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