Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 3 ***Updated Mod Note Post 1***

whiteandblue wrote: »

This is how the championship will work: (Winners in brackets) Loosely based on previous years results!

First Round:
(Ballinacourty) vs Rathgormack
(The Nire) vs Clashmore
Portlaw vs (Ballinameela)
(Stradbally) vs Ardmore
(Kilrossanty) vs Gaultier
(An Rinn) vs Brickey Rangers

Winners go on one side of the draw in Round 2. Losers go on the other side.

Round 2:
Winners face each after an open draw so for example:
(Ballinacourty) vs The Nire
Ballinameela vs (Stradbally)
(Kilrossanty) vs An Rinn

3 Winners of these games go straight into a semi-final so let's say Ballinacourty, Stradbally and Kilrossanty win, they may go 4-6 months without a championship game.
Losers go into Round 3.

Losers of opening rounds face each other on the other side for example:
(Rathgormack) vs Clashmore
Portlaw vs (Ardmore)
(Gaultier) vs Brickey Rangers

Winners go into Round 4, losers go to Round 3.

Round 3
Losers of Round 2 face each other.
(The Nire) vs Portlaw
Ballinameela vs (Clashmore)
(An Rinn) vs Brickeys

Losers go into relegation round robin which in this case will be Portlaw, Ballinameela and Brickeys, one team will be relegated in 2017, 2 in 2018.
Winners advance to Round 4.

Round 4
Rathgormack vs (The Nire)
Ardmore vs (Clashmore)
Gaultier vs (An Rinn)

Winners advance to Round 5, losers are eliminated from the championship.

Round 5
(The Nire) vs Bye
(An Rinn) vs Clashmore

Winners advance to ¼ final but as shown, one team will have a bye. One team will be eliminated.

¼ Final
(The Nire) vs An Rinn

Semi-Finals
Open Draw
(Ballinacourty) vs Stradbally
Kilrossanty vs (The Nire)

Final
(The Nire) vs Ballinacourty

So the winner could potentially only have to play 4 games to win the championship? Unless The Nire, Stradbally or Ballinacourty draw each other in the first round, that will almost certainly be the case.

Edit: Sorry, the winners group in round 2 will bring about some more interesting games.

PTH2009 wrote: »

what are lismores chances of beating Galways Ahascragh-Fohenagh on sunday in the intermediate semi final ??? The village will go crazy if they win on sunday, possible match vs Carrickshock of Kilkenny in the final on the 18th Feb in Croke Park.

No Waterford club has ever got to a All Ireland Intermediate club final, Cappoquinn were beaten by O Donnovon Rossa of Antrim in 2014/2015 in the AI intermediate semis the same year Ballysaggart lost the AI junior Club final after a replay.

Ask yourself this question Clinkers...

Would you be suprised to see Lismore in the County final this coming year????

I certainly wouldn't be suprised, they seem to be really enjoying the run their having on the road and they have some seriously talented players. They deserve to be back up where they belong.

I dont know much about the crowd with the big long name i wouldnt even try say it never mind spell it.
I doubt they have players of the calibre of the Shanahan's, Ray Barry, Seanie Barry, Jack Prendergast.
If they do have players to match them well it'll be a cracker of a game and definitely worth watching.

Best of luck Lismore from the town mouse in the east (we're not all that bad)

championship is in 5 months, and all the lads who are still in college to give it all for the cause of waterford looked for a whip around to go drinking for a weekend. My god. Them animals. I dont know about ye, but I reckon we just lock them up and slide the the creatine in three times a day into a cell. Let them out for gym twice a day, once on the day of a pitch session. For fear them going drinking for one weekend might cost us the championship. They also have to go out on messy monday's, might give gay tuesday a miss, whacky wednesday, and if they aint out on thirsty thursdays they may aswell not be in college. But them going for a weekend of pints is a disgrace! Cause if its one thing we need them to do is to take a vow of celibacy and stay in and not drink. Like i said we may aswell put them in a cell and lock them up. For fear theyll do something to damage their chances of winning an all ireland. Theyve only 4 or 5 championship matches this year. In FIVE months time. Its a joke they train this much for 4 or 5 matches. Would I f**k train from 8th Dec too August/Sept for four matches. The majority of them are in IT's and for good reason. What we demand of them is ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. They dont get paid, they have to train 3 times pitch a week, 4 gym sessions, throw in a match or too, study, part-time work, keeping the girlfriend happy. Cody said it right today, a condensed championship. go back to knockout. Ireland is living in the stoneage with GAA. We are using a model that existed in the 1880's. We are the only game in the world who just plays knockout. I love how the AIL rugby can play 24 games a season, stick to a schedule and train 15 hours a week. The game needs to change. My god. Either professionalise it, or condense it and strict the amount they play. Its an amateur game. You try waking up at 6am most mornings for the sake of the county. Lads ye are comical half the time i read it like. For the pride of the county. The lions can tour a country and play 20 games in a month and have 3 test matches but we struggle to keep to 4 games on schedule. Like the county board is a joke. It just neglects the clubs for the county. Make the players unavailable like AIL rugby do and drive on, four games of football in senior is a joke. They expect you to train Jan - Oct for 4 games that matter. There is a reason I play AIL rugby, 1. Its weekly and competitive, 2. nice extra 250 euro a game for 15 hours a week, 3. The club comes first. We will have 9 games that matter this year, cause nobody cares about the league in waterford. 9 games from both codes. Months of training on end so the county can once again get knocked out of the championship. Im not gna have an all ireland medal, I wanna play ball. I have to come down from Dublin to do so. All my friends from AIL Rugby are off enjoying there summer and kicking it in D4 but ill be up and down for 9 games that matter, and im ****e at hurling anyway and we aint a great hurling club so ill have 4 games of football to win another county medal. What a joke. But if you dont train Jan-Oct you wont make the team for them four games. Jan Oct, Ill be after playing in two AIL rugby seasons and played more than 4 games in each season before i play four games of football this year. 4 GAMES! Like Is there something wrong with a League. 12 teams, play eachother wont per code, top 4 semi final, both 2 relegation battle. Once in the hurling, once in the football. Have a minimum 24 game season like every other code. But no, that be too easy, too easy on the clubs. for fear clubs might have a good season and abit of revenue might come into the county gates. Let the county players play away and make them ineligibile cause the entire county is sick of the game being helf up for 30 players. especially when 3/4 them aint playing senior football. Give me that chairmanship and ill put this county into gear. Its an all ireland medal, theres more to life than an all ireland medal or winning one. these boys are being conned into thinking its the bed all and end all. Go and travel, rugby have the right idea. Enjoy your summer off!!!! Eejits

tomwaterford wrote: »

I dont thinks its unreasonable to expect imptovement yeat on year???
Esp with age profile of panel hes gotten....a year going backwards is a year too much
(why woulf anyone want to see us going backwards??)


I wanna see waterford win out an all oreland at some stage.....possibly think the u21 manager should get a look in???

I wonder was the U21 manager Sean Power approached by his own club when Ken McGrath stood down.
Surely Mount Sion would benefit from an All Ireland winning manager.
Surely he could have an input with his own club in some capacity

Personally I think that McGrath has tried to play things fairly cute with the national media over the last couple of years. He's made himself very available to the likes of Off the Ball and the main newspapers for opinion pieces and general reflections, at a time when most other managers have pretty much hidden themselves and their squads away from the media.

From his own perspective, this obviously is good for his profile, both now and in the future. From a Waterford perspective, it was also necessary at times with all the tripe spewed out about the 'system' we employ, which in every other county is referred to as tactics.

However, is there any real need to bring this trip to Liverpool up in public? Is there a need to bring guys who spend at least 500 hours a year in each other's company away for a bonding trip? I'm not sure what the agenda is on either front but I wouldn't be mad keen on the approach adopted.

I think a lot of the commentary here highlights the infighting in Waterford however. It's a very divided county, and before a ball was pucked a lot of people were hoping for an opportunity to lay into McGrath because they sided with the Ryan camp. Maybe we'll never be able to be satisfied with an internal manager.

The galway crowd are 3/1 to beat Lismore on Sunday

2/7 Lismore, draw is 10/1

Mikey Kearney started instead if Jamie Barron

3-16-0-11 (52 mins gone)

4-17-0-14- 62 mins

Why did he put out an almost full strength team against kerry. I don't see the logic in it really.