Hail To The Chief (Read Mod Warning In OP)

Depp wrote: »

not the biggest fan of torture but they have to try something, terror attacks are becoming all too frequent and I welcome anything that brings that number down.

say what you like about the efficacy of torture aswel but it works better than giving them a comfy bed and a mug of tea.

also if you actually believe the us arent currently involved in the torture of suspects (either directly or having someone else do it) you're very naive

One in five of the detainees reported experiencing methods constituting torture in their interrogations. But the researchers found that when the interrogation included a "rapport-building approach," a transfer of information was 14 times more likely to happen early in the process. In that approach, interrogators might have expressed concern, indicated that they liked the detainee and used humor. A comfortable setting for the interrogation also made it more likely that people would disclose the sought-for information.

The researchers wrote in their report, published in Applied Cognitive Psychology, that coercive techniques—which include torture and accusations of specific crimes—were "counterproductive."

In an interview with PRI, a former U.S Army interrogator relates his own experience "bonding" with terror suspects during his work in Iraq from 2009 to 2010. Joyce Hackel, PRI’s reporter, relates that the methods the interrogator used were not at all like the CIA’s torture or the abuses that happened at Abu Gharib:

Andrew says he saw none of that with his unit, and, in fact, when detainees weren't dealt with harshly, they got confused. "We use techniques that manipulate people, but we don't physically or psychologically harm them," he says. Instead the interrogator might talk about the detainee's family and offer tea.

"They see that this isn't the big, bad American facade that they were led to believe," he says. "It changes their perspective, and almost turns their mindset against their organization, and they're thinking, 'Why would they lie to me?' And then they're more willing to actually share secrets with us."

jobbridge4life wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Independent/status/824558549158203392

Galway_Old_Man wrote: »

Torturing is disgusting, how can you call your country civilised if it's indulging in such behaviour. Spare me the Jack Bauer countdown clock nonsense.


As regards the Wall, I reckon Trump means that they're be some sort of charge put on money going back to Mexico from emigrants, or have illegals to register themselves in the US in some kind of amnesty which will involve some kind of payment... All guess work of course, immediately the bill will be landing at the American taxpayers.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I called over unannounced to my American friend today while my bicycle was getting fixed (all within 300m of my house) and he and his girlfriend were binge watching anti-Trump videos.. I chatted while listening and it was all hysteria and full of factual errors. That's how I imagine millions of Americans in their free time.

Maybe you're right, something funny instead of serious would be good. But more than that, a break is needed. It's all too much and inarguably excessive but that seems to be what people are crying out for.

Yeah, Trump should be lambasted for his wrongs but this is all a case of the boy who cried wolf. His supporters can find something in every story to discount it and when there are 5 stories a day, everyone will stop even trying to keep up.

That's what happened me during the election with the fake outrage about veterans. That was the turning point for me thinking "screw it".