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Hail To The Chief (Read Mod Warning In OP)

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  • #4052
    SkinnyBuddha
    Closed Accounts Posts: 279 ✭✭SkinnyBuddha


    Butters1979 wrote: »
    If he's lying about voter fraud why is he investigating it?
    Because the fuktard is gonna come up with some "alternative facts" at the end of it.


  • #4053
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,833 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2014/10/24/could-non-citizens-decide-the-november-election/?utm_term=.f6c4c375b0c1

    "Because non-citizens tended to favor Democrats (Obama won more than 80 percent of the votes of non-citizens in the 2008 CCES sample), we find that this participation was large enough to plausibly account for Democratic victories in a few close elections. Non-citizen votes could have given Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health-care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress. Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) won election in 2008 with a victory margin of 312 votes. Votes cast by just 0.65 percent of Minnesota non-citizens could account for this margin. It is also possible that non-citizen votes were responsible for Obama’s 2008 victory in North Carolina. Obama won the state by 14,177 votes, so a turnout by 5.1 percent of North Carolina’s adult non-citizens would have provided this victory margin."



    This Woman has been attacked over and over by the previous administration for simply wanting fair and free elections. She's been investigated multiple times by the FBI, fines tens of thousands of dollars and been attacked non stop by Democrats like Cummings and the IRS. If there's nothing to hide why has she been so harshly treated? She appears to be honest and intelligent.



    Why? The real question is why people do not want a full investigation and why the same people oppose voter ID. Is there's nothing to hide and no wrongdoing was done then why oppose it? The exact same argument was used by those supporting Jill Steins recounts.

    hank, you missed the top of the article
    Note: The post occasioned three rebuttals (here, here, and here) as well as a response from the authors. Subsequently, another peer-reviewed article argued that the findings reported in this post (and affiliated article) were biased and that the authors’ data do not provide evidence of non-citizen voting in U.S. elections.

    The Post put it there because the article was referred to by Trump supporters. They felt they had to update the article when new information was available.


  • #4054
    Butters1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Butters1979


    SkinnyBuddha wrote: »
    Because the fuktard is gonna come up with some "alternative facts" at the end of it.

    So you're saying there's no voter fraud but you also don't want him to have a chance to prove there isn't?


  • #4055
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Where will he get the Manuel labour to build this wall? Eh? Eh?


  • #4056
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,833 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Butters1979 wrote: »
    If he's lying about voter fraud why is he investigating it?

    Also Fox News is insane. Flicked over for the news conference. Before they went to adds they had two, what could only be described as aryans singing a country music love song to each other. It as god awful.

    I watch clips on YouTube of all the big networks but I can't watch them live anymore. There's so much random crap and adverts on it. I think everyone on this side of the water can agree that there's far too many adverts over there.


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  • #4057
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    Grayson wrote: »
    hank, you missed the top of the article

    Where he's right or wrong ( and I'm in agreement with you that it's very likely he's wrong ) I still believe that an investigation into possible voter fraud isn't a bad thing. I just don't get the argument against voter ID at all.

    Edit: Conference thingy starting now.


  • #4058
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,833 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Trump's walking on.


  • #4059
    Butters1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Butters1979


    Grayson wrote: »
    Trump's walking on.

    Strutting on to music. Like wrestling. Talking about the storms and sending fema. Approved money for Georgia and Mississippi. Told ya


  • #4060
    Butters1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Butters1979


    Billy86 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/blakehounshell/status/824098736511025156?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

    Call answered. Go trump!


  • #4061
    Gavinz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 171 ✭✭Gavinz


    I'd say Trump is ****ting himself, what with all of these Irish people shouting their disapproval; on Boards.ie of all places!

    Doesn't he know who he's dealing with!


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  • #4062
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    Butters1979 wrote: »
    If he's lying about voter fraud why is he investigating it?

    Well at the moment we don't know what this 'investigation' will involve so we will have to wait and see its true nature before we can conclude that he is properly having anything investigated.

    With Trump though one just genuinely doesn't know. Why does he rail against the elite when he is a scion of wealth, who parlays with the wealthy all his life? Why does he decry globalisation while profiting from it personally? Why does he rail against American companies while having his own merchandise manufactured abroad? Why does he call himself pro-life now when he called himself pro-choice for years? Why does he rail against Obama and Clinton and then praise them effusively? Why does he malign and attack illegal immigrants when he is married to a woman who worked illegally in the USA?

    He might just be an incorrigible liar, manipulating a willing populace by appealing to their basest instincts. IDK.


  • #4063
    tonycascarino
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭tonycascarino


    build that wall! build that wall!


  • #4064
    sjb25
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,416 ✭✭✭sjb25


    tonycascarino wrote: »
    build that wall! build that wall!

    USA USA USA


  • #4065
    Butters1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Butters1979


    Gavinz wrote: »
    I'd say Trump is ****ting himself, what with all of these Irish people shouting their disapproval; on Boards.ie of all places!

    Doesn't he know who he's dealing with!

    He's not worried. He knows I have his back in here.


  • #4066
    SkinnyBuddha
    Closed Accounts Posts: 279 ✭✭SkinnyBuddha


    Butters1979 wrote: »
    So you're saying there's no voter fraud but you also don't want him to have a chance to prove there isn't?

    Thats not what I said is it now?:rolleyes:

    I'd love him to prove that he lost the popular vote on that scale.

    Having said that he'll be caught out again as being a lying sh1te if/when he does produce "alternative facts".


  • #4067
    BabyCheeses
    Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭BabyCheeses


    The only aid Georgia and Mississippi need are a pair of boot straps instead of getting hand outs.


  • #4068
    Butters1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Butters1979


    SkinnyBuddha wrote: »
    Thats not what I said is it now?:rolleyes:

    I'd love him to prove that he lost the popular vote on that scale.

    Having said that he'll be caught out again as being a lying sh1te if/when he does produce "alternative facts".

    If he lost the popular vote or not doesn't matter. Except for point scoring on the Internet.
    If there is voter fraud that does matter. Let them investigate. It's weird how so many people don't want this investigation.


  • #4069
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    Where he's right or wrong ( and I'm in agreement with you that it's very likely he's wrong ) I still believe that an investigation into possible voter fraud isn't a bad thing.

    Fine, but then can you acknowledge that for the POTUS to repeat as fact an entirely unsubstantiated claim as fact, especially one that undermines faith in the entire democratic premise, is wildly irresponsible?

    Hank Scorpio wrote: »
    I just don't get the argument against voter ID at all.

    Then, with respect, you need to read up on Republican efforts to suppress black voting.


  • #4070
    Gavinz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 171 ✭✭Gavinz


    This popular vote nonsense is laughable.

    Every candidate and every supporter has know the rules since the birth of their nation.


  • #4071
    SkinnyBuddha
    Closed Accounts Posts: 279 ✭✭SkinnyBuddha


    Butters1979 wrote: »
    It's weird how so many people don't want this investigation.

    I don't mind the investigation ,actually I'll look forward to it but I'm 100% sure anything him or his lackey's come up with will be easily proven as bolloxolgy.


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  • #4072
    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,419 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It's been a while but aren't there some states where you register to vote, show up and then your name gets ticked off, without ID?
    Because in a system where less than 60% voted, that seems really easy to abuse.. I find it very plausible that there's a list somewhere of people who don't vote.

    As for California, using the info here, I just registered to vote as if I'm a US citizen. I'd just need to print it off, sign it and send it in. I didn't give an address but I could have and then a ballot would have been sent to my house. I was allowed to register while clicking "I don't have a social security #".

    Apparently I'd need to bring ID with me to the polling station but that's easy. I made a fake driving licence for myself 14 years ago to buy beer.
    Fake IDs are easy to make. Finding dead people is easy. Finding people who don't vote is easy. Registering is easy. Fraud is easy.


    Yes, but we know you vote for Trump so you're just shooting yourself in the foot with that argument.


  • #4073
    HellSquirrel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭HellSquirrel


    Butters1979 wrote: »
    If he lost the popular vote or not doesn't matter. Except for point scoring on the Internet.
    If there is voter fraud that does matter. Let them investigate. It's weird how so many people don't want this investigation.

    Oh come off it. Trump can't bear that he lost the popular vote, you know, the thing that doesn't matter. He's been bitching like a teenager since. Doesn't confuse you at all that he knows that exactly 3 million were definitely, totes, illegals, right? Like, just enough to have him "win"? And he just knows this without evidence or proof? Not ringing any alarms?


    I assume his first act wasn't to arrest Mr. Steve Bannon, registered to vote in two states, no? :pac:


  • #4074
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    Butters1979 wrote: »
    If he lost the popular vote or not doesn't matter. Except for point scoring on the Internet.

    Except it does matter. And whats more it matters to him and that's why he has repeated as fact totally unsubstantiated claims about alleged voting fraud for months now. It might also explain this tweet along with the others in which he called for revolution in the USA...

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/266038556504494082
    Butters1979 wrote: »
    If there is voter fraud that does matter. Let them investigate. It's weird how so many people don't want this investigation.

    They have investigated. It's weird how many people don't seem to want to acknowledge that.


  • #4075
    Butters1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Butters1979


    SkinnyBuddha wrote: »
    I don't mind the investigation ,actually I'll look forward to it but I'm 100% sure anything him or his lackey's come up with will be easily proven as bolloxolgy.

    Well you don't need proof. You've already decided.


  • #4076
    Butters1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Butters1979


    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    Except it does matter. And whats more it matters to him and that's why he has repeated as fact totally unsubstantiated claims about alleged voting fraud for months now. It might also explain this tweet along with the others in which he called for revolution in the USA...

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/266038556504494082



    They have investigated. It's weird how many people don't seem to want to acknowledge that.

    Not since the 2016 election. You know. The one he is taking about.


  • #4077
    Butters1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Butters1979


    HellSquirrel wrote: »
    Oh come off it. Trump can't bear that he lost the popular vote, you know, the thing that doesn't matter. He's been bitching like a teenager since. Doesn't confuse you at all that he knows that exactly 3 million were definitely, totes, illegals, right? Like, just enough to have him "win"? And he just knows this without evidence or proof? Not ringing any alarms?


    I assume his first act wasn't to arrest Mr. Steve Bannon, registered to vote in two states, no? :pac:

    Yeah I'm hearing bitching and petty obsession from all sides here.


  • #4078
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    Butters1979 wrote: »
    Not since the 2016 election. You know. The one he is taking about.

    Yeah. The one he won. So I guess all the evidence about the elections his party lost are irrelevant.


  • #4079
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    Butters1979 wrote: »
    Well you don't need proof. You've already decided.

    Like the POTUS you mean?


  • #4080
    wildgreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭wildgreen


    david75 wrote: »
    Where will he get the Manuel labour to build this wall? Eh? Eh?
    He will have to use Mexicans who are already living in the States but he will get them to stay on the Mexican side of the wall as they build it hehe


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  • #4081
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    Butters1979 wrote: »
    Yeah I'm hearing bitching and petty obsession from all sides here.

    Tell us again how people don't know that people have conservative ideas?:rolleyes:


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