Hail To The Chief (Read Mod Warning In OP)

What's the story here? This guy hits a woman at the Women's March.



Would this be considered an assault?

The other women standing around don't seem too bothered about stopping the guy from getting away.

super_furry wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ap/status/823949141894111233

Oh look, for his latest whizz, Kim Don Trump is putting a gag order on the Eviromental Protection Agency and stopping their work.

The man is a despot.

ffs. Figures, he's got all those regulations to undo, and can't have the EPA reporting what's being got rid of. I assume the world will find out right around the time there's another Love Canal.

infogiver wrote: »

My friends law student son set fire to a guys fancy dress beard in a drunken prank in a night club destroying the other guys career path and causing him months and months of seering pain while simultaneously destroying his own career and immediate family. He's still in prison and rightly so.
No excuses

I vaguely remember that case. It wasn't all that long ago, was it? Not more than a couple of years at most.

And since we're all sharing stories of immolation, I've managed to set my own hair on fire more than once. No-one's ever done it for me though.

dudara wrote: »

The local school idiot lit my ponytail on fire once on the school bus. Just for the craic cause he was bored. You get idiots everywhere. I don't tend to read too much into that other than there are people everywhere who shouldn't be left out. Unfortunately, they get attracted to public events and gatherings where they can have an audience.

Right but a BIG component of the opposition to Trump was his attitude towards, and treatment of, women.

Yet, here you have someone at an anti-Trump protest who thinks it's just fine to set a woman's hair on fire.

Sorry, but I am getting the real sense here that they want women to be a protected class right up until they find a woman who disagrees with their political views.

There are loads of examples of this.

When it suits them to focus on identity alone then that's what they focus on. As soon as a member of one of these "marginalized groups" disagrees it goes out the window and they are fair game for abuse.

Butters1979 wrote: »

Just to clear up something here. The person who lit the hair on fire was another woman, and most certainly with the protesters.

Okay, gotcha. She's an idiot and a criminal and entirely deserves to be arrested.

Butters1979 wrote: »

Yes and as I was saying lot really representative of the rest of the protesters.

Unfortunately, most people won't see that. They'll call out that a woman did something bad at an anti-Trump protest and therefore liberals* are evil and vicious creatures.

These people are idiots, but what can you do.

*Just "liberals". As a whole. At least the alt-right are being picked out specifically rather than "the right" or "conservatives".

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

One of the saddest things about the last week for me has been seeing intelligent people become hysterical and meet what they see as a lack of decency in public life with utter indecency themselves. I have found some of the women's march stuff really vulgar and demeaning of women. Also what they're supposed to stand for is the anthesis of this rife obsession with tearing his wife to pieces, his marriage , his child, his appearance.
Smart people seem to be having their view obscured by idiotic memes and social media fever discussing the gift his wife brought to the Obamas, comparing the Obama marriage to the Trump marriage etc. It's uncovered a really ugly underbelly of modern society. Hardly anyone is actually discussing anything of actual substance in regard to his presidency. I'm being led to despair more for the state of humanity than the inauguration of Trump himself.

If you think about the media we consume, think about the basics of many religions or look at how we learn history then it kind of makes sense.

We are constantly told that it's usually OK for us to do bad things as long as there are good reasons for doing it. It's not OK damage property or to kill but it's fine if "our boys" are bombing the **** out of some far away land.

You are seeing that to a less extreme degree with these protests.

I know folks who would be PISSED OFF if you made fun of a celebrity woman's appearance but who also have no trouble making fun of Trumps appearance.

From there I don't know how much of a leap it would be to shout "stop violence against women" and then find yourself an hour later punching a lady in the mouth because she voted Trump.

I think the SJWs have the good intentions when the arguments are taken at face value. Violence is wrong and people should be allowed to make choices in their lives without an overbearing society or government criminalizing things like same sex marriage or abortion.

It just seems so much worse then when the people who SHOULD objectively stand as the good guys here, the SJWs who are against prejudice and oppression and inequality, end up revealing themselves as terrible, irrational, bullies.

I just feel like I would EXPECT irrational craziness from the Alex Jones', the Breitbart's, the 4Chan's and the Alt-Right's of the world. I think on some level they themselves know they are acting the maggot.

Instead we have Madonna telling us how she has "thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House".

I think both sides need to have their "are we the baddies" moment.

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

I think I understand what you are saying but I feel like my problem with the current state of play is not that people are protesting or that people object in a manner not to my taste. I really am starting to fear that one of the greatest threats we are starting to face is complete obfuscation of the real issues in place of hysterical nit picking over misspelled tweets or a wife's momentary facial expression. It is like we are now caught in the grip of some reality TV frenzy and intelligent, educated, capable people are right in there with no objectivity what so ever being themselves everything that they hate. On some level it's almost as if the western world have got the president they deserve, big on tweets and bluster, small on meaningful, coherent content.
Whether we like it or not the world and the Trump administration are moving on, meetings being held, policies being formulated. Gaze needs to firmly shift back there. Distraction has been the only real product of the last 3 months since the election. People really need to get back to either shutting up and not adding further to the distracting sideshow or start talking about what this new administration are actually doing.

I totally agree but I think we won't see the full impact of this (if there is any impact at all) until the preparation for the next election starts to build up.

Will the Democrats decide to put forward their own version of Trump who is all style and no substance or will both parties go back to supporting actual politicians. They flirted with the idea at least when they focused on Hillary's gender rather than her politics from time to time. Media criticism of "Bernie Bros" would be an example. Maybe they will just go "all in" for 2020. Get Beyonce to run, or something.

The Republicans never wanted Trump as far as I could tell but we have to now wonder if next time they will just back an unqualified loudmouth from the start. It worked this time so why not just go for another reality star? I hear Caitlyn Jenner is a Republican and maybe Kanye could be her VP?