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ScumLord · 23-01-2017 07:50PM

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Do you have any examples?

Mocking people 'as being retarded' for disagreeing with him, is mocking people with disabilities, it is using them as a prop to denigrate others. Many people do it, but the President should not, and at the very least he ought to have fulsomely apologized. He didn't.

I'd agree with that, but my point is he didn't single out this guys disability and mock him for it. That's how he chooses to mock people in general.

HellSquirrel · 23-01-2017 07:52PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I did read it Who has been mistreated by President Trump ? he's 1 day in office.

In that case I assume you don't English very well. I note you jumped on the one word, which was relating to the term "solidarity" ("SHOW ME A THE!"), ignored the other, and are now harping on about it to distract from the point. So the usual sort of rubbish.

But okay, since you ask, he's pulled out of the TPP with unforeseen effects so far and he's already started putting his size nines into reproductive rights with the Mexico City policy being enforced this time around, to defund international abortion-related services.

So, women and people benefiting from trading along the Pacific Rim (including the US) have been potentially harmed so far. Not bad for Day 1.

Oh, he's already started dismantling ACA, despite having nothing to replace it with, so that's about 70,000 people harmed. And that's before we get to the criminal carelessness with departments of the government that people need to survive - like vaccination. Who would put an antivaxxer in control of the Vaccination committee? No-one would be that stu- oh, Mister President.

jobbridge4life · 23-01-2017 07:53PM

ScumLord wrote: »

I'd agree with that, but my point is he didn't single out this guys disability and mock him for it. That's how he chooses to mock people in general.

Do you have any other examples of him clutching his hand in that manner?

darkpagandeath · 23-01-2017 07:53PM

HellSquirrel wrote: »

In that case I assume you don't English very well. I note you jumped on the one word, which was relating to the term "solidarity" ("SHOW ME A THE!"), ignored the other, and are now harping on about it to distract from the point. So the usual sort of rubbish.

But okay, since you ask, he's pulled out of the TPP with unforeseen effects so far and he's already started putting his size nines into reproductive rights with the Mexico City policy being enforced this time around, to defund international abortion-related services.

So, women and people benefiting from trading along the Pacific Rim (including the US) have been potentially harmed so far. Not bad for Day 1.

Oh, he's already started dismantling ACA, despite having nothing to replace it with, so that's about 70,000 people harmed. And that's before we get to the criminal carelessness with departments of the government that people need to survive - like vaccination. Who would put an antivaxxer in control of the Vaccination committee? No-one would be that stu- oh, Mister President.

Lol, insinuates Racism, Falls back on Racism... :pac:

conditioned games · 23-01-2017 07:55PM

PopePalpatine wrote: »

That must be why they used the "Southern Strategy" since the 60s to win over whites in the Deep South...oh wait, that was the Republicans.

Nope blacks switched in the 1930's while the southern whites switched in the 80's

arayess · 23-01-2017 07:56PM

Venom wrote: »

Trump has made that gesture when he's taking about people being confused, not knowing what to do and being indecisive in general.

Poor form to use it when dealing with the reporter but I honestly don't feel he was mocking the guy over his disability.

he wasn't - he was mocking him for mocking trump on something that he had supported in a previous article and trump was calling him stupid.

I love trump but this was very foot in mouth.
Whatever his intention , perception and what we actually see are paramount.

jobbridge4life · 23-01-2017 07:56PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Lol, insinuates Racism, Falls back on Racism... :pac:

Dude you just favourited people's posts defending/deflecting Trump because he generally mocks people 'as being retarded' for disagreeing with him.

darkpagandeath · 23-01-2017 07:57PM

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Dude you just favourited people's posts defending/deflecting Trump because he generally mocks people 'as being retarded' for disagreeing with him.

We loose the ball ?

HellSquirrel · 23-01-2017 07:57PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Lol, insinuates Racism, Falls back on Racism... :pac:

I actually didn't see any racism to insinuate against you, since we weren't talking about race at all. And I was actually insulting your ability to parse a sentence in English, not your race. :rolleyes:

Since both times I've wasted my time talking to you, you have completely blanked the substance of what I was saying to run off on a tangent, I think it's probably best that we don't waste any more of each other's time.

InTheTrees · 23-01-2017 07:58PM

Meanwhile back on planet earth, the daily white house press briefng is going on right now.
Can we expect more comedy from spider?

I've also read that Conway has flip flopped again and is now saying trump will release his taxes. But after this never ending audit.

Grayson · 23-01-2017 07:59PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

In what way do tell. Pointing out facts = Racist ?

I Saw white Germans or Americans not Muslims, When did I talk about Muslims being bad ? I said it's sickening what they were shouting after a recent Terrorist attack. But lets just suggest Racism.

You can be any colour and be Muslim. I believe most of europes Muslims are white, they're from the Balkans. And being muslim doesn't mean you're not german. they're not mutually exclusive.

B_Wayne · 23-01-2017 08:01PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

In what way do tell. Pointing out facts = Racist ?

I Saw white Germans or Americans not Muslims, When did I talk about Muslims being bad ? I said it's sickening what they were shouting after a recent Terrorist attack. But lets just suggest Racism.

It's not a fact that there was anything extreme about the chanting of Allahu Akbar. I've done a quick check, ironically it only appears to be the conspiracy theorists that are outraged. Infowars, the Star and The Daily Stormer. The last one is an out and out white supremacist site... People were clearly traumatised... :rolleyes: Ironically, this upset from the white supremacist seems rather like the behaviour of the dreaded Snowflakes.....

Little CuChulainn · 23-01-2017 08:03PM

ScumLord wrote: »

I'd agree with that, but my point is he didn't single out this guys disability and mock him for it. That's how he chooses to mock people in general.

If I use the insult "fag" regularly is it not much worse if I target it at a homosexual? Trump knew the man was disabled so he should have been decent enough not to mock him about it. There's a big difference between insulting someone about something they are not as opposed to insulting someone about something they are.

darkpagandeath · 23-01-2017 08:03PM

Grayson wrote: »

You can be any colour and be Muslim. I believe most of europes Muslims are white, they're from the Balkans. And being muslim doesn't mean you're not german. they're not mutually exclusive.

That's true, But your woman chanting is clearly not a Muslim. Struggling to even pronounce the chant correctly. Clearly spent a lot of time in front of the mirror practising. They clearly thought they were being edgy. And shown complete contempt for any family of the recent Terrorist attack. I don't see how anyone could defend such actions.

RobertKK · 23-01-2017 08:04PM

InTheTrees wrote: »

Meanwhile back on planet earth, the daily white house press briefng is going on right now.
Can we expect more comedy from spider?

I've also read that Conway has flip flopped again and is now saying trump will release his taxes. But after this never ending audit.

Sean Spicer doing a far more professional job than the other day, but that wouldn't be hard.

darkpagandeath · 23-01-2017 08:04PM

B_Wayne wrote: »

It's not a fact that there was anything extreme about the chanting of Allahu Akbar. I've done a quick check, ironically it only appears to be the conspiracy theorists that are outraged. Infowars, the Star and The Daily Stormer. The last one is an out and out white supremacist site... People were clearly traumatised... :rolleyes: Ironically, this upset from the white supremacist seems rather like the behaviour of the dreaded Snowflakes.....

Grayson · 23-01-2017 08:04PM

InTheTrees wrote: »

Meanwhile back on planet earth, the daily white house press briefng is going on right now.
Can we expect more comedy from spider?

I've also read that Conway has flip flopped again and is now saying trump will release his taxes. But after this never ending audit.

I think criticising someone on how they look is a low blow. But his eyes look soulless. I think it's just the lighting but it looks weird.

Sonics2k · 23-01-2017 08:05PM

Il Fascista wrote: »

Is it not logical to wait for these people to do something wrong before we assume that they're bad choices? I don't know Trump's reasoning on any of his choices, and neither do you.

Nonsense.

You can absolutely make an assumption based on the previous actions of the individuals Trump has selected.

Right now, one real problem the world is facing together is Climate Change. It is an undeniable problem. Trump has appointed a man called Scott Pruitt as head of the Environmental Protection Agency, which is obviously, charged with making sure pesky little issues like Climate Change don't get any worse.

How about Rex Tillerson, the soon to be Secretary of State. Not only is he also a Climate Change denier, but he was also the CEO of Exxonmobile for the last ten years. He also has an extremely close relationship with Vladimir Putin, considered to be his best non-Russian friend and even spoke out against sanctions against Russia when they invaded Ukraine a few years ago.

Let's have a quick gander at Betsy DeVos, who looks like she may be head of Education. First of all, she's a big supporter of Charter Schools, which have been shown to be massively flawed and don't actually help children out.
She also has absolutely no experience working in Education other than ones she and her family have bankrolled.

And finally, Mike Pence, now the VP of the United States.
Here's a man who previously said Climate Change is a total myth, has voted against limiting Greenhouse Gas Emissions twice and even supported the Keystone Pipeline.
But worst of all, here is a man who actually thinks that Gay Conversion Therapy works and even signed into law a bill that allowed a business to refuse to even serve an LGBT customer based on their religious beliefs.

So yes, we can draw conclusions and assumptions on Trump, based on his actions, and on his administration, based on their past actions.

B_Wayne · 23-01-2017 08:07PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

You've claimed people are upset by it, I've literally found no sign of it except from tabloid rags and conspiracy sites.

HellSquirrel · 23-01-2017 08:07PM

B_Wayne wrote: »

It's not a fact that there was anything extreme about the chanting of Allahu Akbar. I've done a quick check, ironically it only appears to be the conspiracy theorists that are outraged. Infowars, the Star and The Daily Stormer. The last one is an out and out white supremacist site... People were clearly traumatised... :rolleyes: Ironically, this upset from the white supremacist seems rather like the behaviour of the dreaded Snowflakes.....

Well, they are pretty snowflakey. Poor puddings aren't the only people in the world and mean people tell them that they can't treat other races as less than dirt. The world is a very stressful place to these guys.

You know, I hadn't really given much consideration to "allahu akbar" in its normal context. Christians shout "Praise to the Lord" or other such (okay, mostly Americans are the only ones enthused/uninhibited enough to), but it's an odd thought that to the majority of Muslims, those are just regular, prayerful words. To non-Muslims (mostly Europeans or Americans), those words are an outright threat. It's pretty understandable, given the exposure a lot of us have had to those words. I'd be pretty nervous if some guy stood up beside me on an airplane and yelled it. (Mind you, I'd also be moderately so if he yelled "Praise to the Lord" or "Baloney and chicken" too, so that may not mean much).

jobbridge4life · 23-01-2017 08:08PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

We loose the ball ?

Explain that please.

Grayson · 23-01-2017 08:09PM

Spicers reason for cancelling the TPP is bull. He says that it's not good because small countries get access to the US markets because the US only gets access to the small country's market.

That's not true. The US would have gotten access to the markets of a number of countries.

HellSquirrel · 23-01-2017 08:11PM

Grayson wrote: »

Spicers reason for cancelling the TPP is bull. He says that it's not good because small countries get access to the US markets because the US only gets access to the small country's market.

That's not true. The US would have gotten access to the markets of a number of countries.

Australia, Brunei Darussalam, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam to be exact. And also putting a bit of a halt on Chinese monopoly of the Pacific trade.

Why am I not surprised that he doesn't even know why he's stopping it.

Grayson · 23-01-2017 08:11PM

He's back to the inauguration again.

darkpagandeath · 23-01-2017 08:13PM

B_Wayne wrote: »

You've claimed people are upset by it, I've literally found no sign of it except from tabloid rags and conspiracy sites.

You have found a person upset about it, You can check for me posting the the CT forum if one likes. lets disregard the insensitivity for the moment. What's ones opinion of people shouting Religious phrases on street corners here ?

RobertKK · 23-01-2017 08:13PM

Grayson wrote: »

He's back to the inauguration again.

In fairness he was asked.

Little CuChulainn · 23-01-2017 08:14PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

You have found a person upset about it, You can check for me posting the the CT forum if one likes. lets disregard the insensitivity for the moment. What's ones opinion of people shouting Religious phrases on street corners here ?

How many times a day to you hear someone shout "Christ", "Jesus" or "God"? Pretty often I think. It's used as a swear by many so it's very common.

HellSquirrel · 23-01-2017 08:16PM

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38718306

By the way, that is outright bullying and I'm glad she got called on it. Barron Trump should be out of bounds for having a go at. The kid is ten.

darkpagandeath · 23-01-2017 08:16PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

How many times a day to you hear someone shout "Christ", "Jesus" or "God"? Pretty often I think. It's used as a swear by many so it's very common.

How oftern Chanting through a loudspeaker ?

BabyCheeses · 23-01-2017 08:16PM

B0jangles wrote: »

Breaking News: The very YUUUUUGEST, BIGLYIEST pot in the world just called the kettle black.

:pac:

Careful, we'll get a picture of a large pot far away to prove it was very small.

Spicer is an odd fellow, was not a fan dippin dots. Something must have happened to him, trapped in the factory over night and had to live off of them maybe?

http://www.avclub.com/article/trumps-new-press-secretary-five-year-running-feud--248859

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