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dudara · 23-01-2017 07:19PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Germans are Christian.

Yes, just like all Irish are Roman Catholic, and not Protestant, Anglican, Jewish, Jehovah's or Muslim.

HellSquirrel · 23-01-2017 07:21PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Solidarity ? They are White German Women. How is Trump not Their president When did he take over Germany ? How are White Germans excising Freedom of their Religion Germans are Christian.

I'm going to assume you're not suggesting that Christians are banned from practicing their religion, therefore they're doing something as Christians in public as they allowed to do under the basic human right of freedom of religion. Does that clear things up for you?

Also, er, no. Christianity is the dominant religion in Germany, yes. However Germans =/ Christian. Some of them are even atheist. And some Buddhists may have sneaked in too. It's shocking altogether, but there you go, not all countries (in fact not even most countries) are monotheistic anymore.

Solidarity is linked to a mysterious business called empathy, an understanding of the fears or bad treatment of another person or group and standing by them. In this case, it involves signs.

(I suspect the person in question is quite aware that they're in Germany and they're not absolutely locationally challenged).

Venom · 23-01-2017 07:22PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Are Trump supporters lighting people on fire ? Smashing up Washington ? Shouting Ala ackbar in Germany ? A few idiots ????

This is the key thing, what have those awful Trump supporters actually done?

Ok, they voted for the guy.

But every story the media ran with from the first day after the election result was in, of all those awful Trump fans beating people up, stealing their cars, calling them names, burning down church's and spraying racist slogans on walls, have not only proven to be false but were in fact proven to have been committed by anti Trump supporters.

It's funny how the the anti Trump, radical left and SJW types preach one thing then act so much worse than than those they protest against!

darkpagandeath · 23-01-2017 07:24PM

dudara wrote: »

Yes, just like all Irish are Roman Catholic, and not Protestant, Anglican, Jewish, Jehovah's or Muslim.

Are you saying Christianity is not the dominant Religion in Germany and Ireland ? Where did I say all. Thought it was self explanatory tbh. You think the Getup in the Video makes them more lightly to be Christian or Muslim ?

darkpagandeath · 23-01-2017 07:26PM

HellSquirrel wrote: »

I'm going to assume you're not suggesting that Christians are banned from practicing their religion, therefore they're doing something as Christians in public as they allowed to do under the basic human right of freedom of religion. Does that clear things up for you?

Also, er, no. Christianity is the dominant religion in Germany, yes. However Germans =/ Christian. Some of them are even atheist. And some Buddhists may have sneaked in too. It's shocking altogether, but there you go, not all countries (in fact not even most countries) are monotheistic anymore.

Solidarity is linked to a mysterious business called empathy, an understanding of the fears or bad treatment of another person or group and standing by them. In this case, it involves signs.

(I suspect the person in question is quite aware that they're in Germany and they're not absolutely locationally challenged).

Who has been Badly Treated by President Trump ? It's kind of like the thinking of the communists under the bed.

conditioned games · 23-01-2017 07:26PM

Grayson wrote: »

Dinesh D’Souza has been nominated for a razzie for his "documentary" Hillary's America. It's a conspiracy movie that's just ludicrous.

Very informative documentary, watched it on plane to Australia. Talks about the Democratic's are the most racist party in America, there goal is to deny deny and deny and shift blame to the other party. They recreated the apartheid by relocating the blacks to the inner cities and got them to vote for Dems, trying to reduce their population by locating planned parenthoods in black communities, Clinton foundation was a scam and Bill Clinton is equivalent to a modern day slave owner (even fathered a child to a black prostitute which they interviewed). But hey if you don't want to hear the truth then claim conspiracy theory.

masculinist · 23-01-2017 07:26PM

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

publically mocked a man with a disability for standing up to him. Just like Hitler

Your whole post is black propaganda. Pure poison pen stuff.

There have been so many debunked attacks against Trump its hard to know which one to destroy first.

https://www.catholics4trump.com/the-true-story-donald-trump-did-not-mock-a-reporters-disability/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/08/31/ann-coulter-media-invented-lie-trump-mocking-disabled-reporter/

Trump did not mock anyone with a disability. Thats a mannerism he has had for years. He did not know that journalist had a disability in the first place.

Grayson · 23-01-2017 07:26PM

Venom wrote: »

This is the key thing, what have those awful Trump supporters actually done?

Ok, they voted for the guy.

But every story the media ran with from the first day after the election result was in, of all those awful Trump fans beating people up, stealing their cars, calling them names, burning down church's and spraying racist slogans on walls, have not only proven to be false but were in fact proven to have been committed by anti Trump supporters.

It's funny how the the anti Trump, radical left and SJW types preach one thing then act so much worse than than those they protest against!

Every single one of them? Do you have a single shred of evidence to back up that claim? Course you don't. You'll provide an example or two and then try to say that if those are incorrect all of them must be.

darkpagandeath · 23-01-2017 07:29PM

Grayson wrote: »

Every single one of them? Do you have a single shred of evidence to back up that claim? Course you don't. You'll provide an example or two and then try to say that if those are incorrect all of them must be.

Plenty of evidence of the anti trump people being violent. Or is breaking windows a sign of respect in the USA ?

Grayson · 23-01-2017 07:29PM

masculinist wrote: »

Your whole post is black propaganda. Pure poison pen stuff.

There have been so many debunked attacks against Trump its hard to know which one to destroy first.

https://www.catholics4trump.com/the-true-story-donald-trump-did-not-mock-a-reporters-disability/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/08/31/ann-coulter-media-invented-lie-trump-mocking-disabled-reporter/

Trump did not mock anyone with a disability. Thats a mannerism he has had for years. He did not know that journalist had a disability in the first place.

Except he knew the reporter very well, despite claiming never to have met him.

https://newrepublic.com/minutes/124662/disabled-reporter-donald-trump-mocked-says-two-first-name-basis-years

Speaking to the Times’s Maggie Haberman, Kovaleski described a history of interactions with Trump that went back decades: “He met with Mr. Trump repeatedly when he was a reporter for The Daily News. ... ‘Donald and I were on a first-name basis for years. I’ve interviewed him in his office. I’ve talked to him at press conferences. All in all, I would say around a dozen times, I’ve interacted with him as a reporter while I was at The Daily News.” So either Trump’s “all-time great” memory is at fault here or he was, in fact, purposefully mocking Kovaleski’s disability. Sad!

Professor Moriarty · 23-01-2017 07:29PM

Il Fascista wrote: »

Is it not logical to wait for these people to do something wrong before we assume that they're bad choices? I don't know Trump's reasoning on any of his choices, and neither do you.

His press secretary told a porkie on his very first day.
He certainly didn't apply reason when he appointed Mattis who disagrees with him on many fundamental issues.
He appointed his son-in-law as his adviser because he is his son-in-law.
Then there's Bannon, a lying spin doctor.
De Vos to education because she is an experienced politician who went to a public school and who never donated heavily to the GOP. Not.
Rick Perry to the EPA. He forgot they existed and that he wanted to eliminate them
Tillerson who has deep Russian business connections and knows Putin well. So no problem there for a Secretary of State.

Is that enough? There's plenty more.

Saipanne · 23-01-2017 07:31PM

I take this moment to congratulate Donald Trump on becoming President.

Bravo good sir. Bravo.

RobertKK · 23-01-2017 07:33PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Drones will probably continue to be used. I doubt if Trump would bother with the detail of drone strikes. No headlines in stopping/continuing drone strikes.

It might become an issue though, now it is not Obama doing it.

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2017/01/17/obamas-covert-drone-war-numbers-ten-times-strikes-bush/

However in the year after taking office, Obama ordered more drone strikes than Bush did during his entire presidency. The 54 strikes in 2009 all took place in Pakistan. Strikes in the country peaked in 2010, with 128 CIA drone attacks and at least 89 civilians killed, at the same time US troop numbers surged in Afghanistan. Pakistan strikes have since fallen with just three conducted in the country last year.
Obama also began an air campaign targeting Yemen. His first strike was a catastrophe: commanders thought they were targeting al Qaeda but instead hit a tribe with cluster munitions, killing 55 people. Twenty-one were children – 10 of them under five. Twelve were women, five of them pregnant.

btw it must be remembered to lower civilian death numbers, the US consider males of military age as guilty unless proven otherwise if killed in a strike, and former workers on the drone program admitted they don't know most of the people killed.

I can not admire any President knowing they stand over this. I think people are deluded when they say 'Obama was a good president' and people are deluded if they think Trump will be.
None of them are held account for the terrorism they bring to other nations, which fuels Islamic extremism.
Obama wasn't, Trump won't be either.
It is just a very minor story if some innocent family get blown to bits in a US airstrike, and forgotten about very quickly.
I love the US, but the US is never held to account for standards that lead to so much misery for the many innocent people they kill.

Obama wasn't, maybe Trump will be, but given both parties in the US support this mass slaughter, and have the media onside, it will continue to be unaccountable.

It was a grave crime when innocent people were being murdered by strikes given the go-ahead by Obama, and these same low standards will continue under Trump.
All they will do is fuel terrorism, and Trump won't wipe it out, all violence does is lead to more violence, something Obama didn't seem to understand, or US foreign policy doesn't, unless the aim is for chaos.

Venom · 23-01-2017 07:33PM

Grayson wrote: »

Every single one of them? Do you have a single shred of evidence to back up that claim? Course you don't. You'll provide an example or two and then try to say that if those are incorrect all of them must be.

I can and could post the links to various sites and have done in the past for all of the above, but it a waste of time and we both know that the anti Trump posters here will just ignore it as per usual .

Tell you what tho, how about you provide a link to some **** Trump supporters have actually done! Since there such awful people there must be tons of cases out there :cool:

Grayson · 23-01-2017 07:33PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Plenty of evidence of the anti trump people being violent. Or is breaking windows a sign of respect in the USA ?

Venom said that not a single trump voter has done anything wrong. And anything that they apparently did wrong has been proven to be liberals pretending they were trump supporters.

I'm not doubting that some liberals have been dicks. Some have destroyed property and even attacked people. However I'm not going to say that no liberal has or that every liberal has. That would be incredibly stupid. Just like saying that no trump supporter behaved badly would be a very stupid thing to say.

So back on point, do you think that every negative action that's been attributed to Trump supporters is a lie perpetrated by a liberal hoaxer? Or is it actually possible that some Trump supporters are dicks.

PopePalpatine · 23-01-2017 07:34PM

conditioned games wrote: »

Very informative documentary, watched it on plane to Australia. Talks about the Democratic's are the most racist party in America, there goal is to deny deny and deny and shift blame to the other party. They recreated the apartheid by relocating the blacks to the inner cities and got them to vote for Dems, trying to reduce their population by locating planned parenthoods in black communities, Clinton foundation was a scam and Bill Clinton is equivalent to a modern day slave owner (even fathered a child to a black prostitute which they interviewed). But hey if you don't want to hear the truth then claim conspiracy theory.

That must be why they used the "Southern Strategy" since the 60s to win over whites in the Deep South...oh wait, that was the Republicans.

Grayson · 23-01-2017 07:35PM

Venom wrote: »

I can and could post the links to various sites and have done in the past for all of the above, but it a waste of time and we both know that the anti Trump posters here will just ignore it as per usual .

Tell you what tho, how about you provide a link to some **** Trump supporters have actually done! Since there such awful people there must be tons of cases out there :cool:

You're the guy that said that every single negative thing that's been done by trump supporters is a hoax. Every single thing. I didn't realise they were such saints.

Professor Moriarty · 23-01-2017 07:35PM

masculinist wrote: »

Your whole post is black propaganda. Pure poison pen stuff.

There have been so many debunked attacks against Trump its hard to know which one to destroy first.

https://www.catholics4trump.com/the-true-story-donald-trump-did-not-mock-a-reporters-disability/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/08/31/ann-coulter-media-invented-lie-trump-mocking-disabled-reporter/

Trump did not mock anyone with a disability. Thats a mannerism he has had for years. He did not know that journalist had a disability in the first place.

Here's a picture of Trump talking about the reporter next to a picture of the reporter he had met in person.

darkpagandeath · 23-01-2017 07:35PM

Venom wrote: »

I can and could post the links to various sites and have done in the past for all of the above, but it a waste of time and we both know that the anti Trump posters here will just ignore it as per usual .

Tell you what tho, how about you provide a link to some **** Trump supporters have actually done! Since there such awful people there must be tons of cases out there :cool:

You will probably get the videos on Anti trump supporters in Trump rallies. That's akin to a rangers supporter turning up wearing the kit in a Celtic pub.

B_Wayne · 23-01-2017 07:37PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Solidarity ? They are White German Women. How is Trump not Their president When did he take over Germany ? How are White Germans excising Freedom of their Religion Germans are Christian.

Because there's international solidarity for those that do oppose Trump, both domestically in the US and globally. It's rather telling when you go on a rant on Germany being a Christian country. Freedom of religion is not just applicable to Christians and Germans aren't solely Christian... At least you've backed down on implying that the marching Muslims were extremists. :rolleyes:

Professor Moriarty · 23-01-2017 07:39PM

RobertKK wrote: »

It might become an issue though, now it is not Obama doing it.

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2017/01/17/obamas-covert-drone-war-numbers-ten-times-strikes-bush/

btw it must be remembered to lower civilian death numbers, the US consider males of military age as guilty unless proven otherwise if killed in a strike, and former workers on the drone program admitted they don't know most of the people killed.

I can not admire any President knowing they stand over this. I think people are deluded when they say 'Obama was a good president' and people are deluded if they think Trump will be.
None of them are held account for the terrorism they bring to other nations, which fuels Islamic extremism.
Obama wasn't, Trump won't be either.
It is just a very minor story if some innocent family get blown to bits in a US airstrike, and forgotten about very quickly.
I love the US, but the US is never held to account for standards that lead to so much misery for the many innocent people they kill.

Obama wasn't, maybe Trump will be, but given both parties in the US support this mass slaughter, and have the media onside, it will continue to be unaccountable.

It was a grave crime when innocent people were being murdered by strikes given the go-ahead by Obama, and these same low standards will continue under Trump.
All they will do is fuel terrorism, and Trump won't wipe it out, all violence does is lead to more violence, something Obama didn't seem to understand, or US foreign policy doesn't, unless the aim is for chaos.

I agree with much of what you say. But hey - it's collateral damage. Nothing to see here.

Look over there at those nasty Muslims/Russians/Mexicans/Gays etc. ad nauseam.

jobbridge4life · 23-01-2017 07:40PM

RobertKK wrote: »

It might become an issue though, now it is not Obama doing it.

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2017/01/17/obamas-covert-drone-war-numbers-ten-times-strikes-bush/

btw it must be remembered to lower civilian death numbers, the US consider males of military age as guilty unless proven otherwise if killed in a strike, and former workers on the drone program admitted they don't know most of the people killed.

I can not admire any President knowing they stand over this. I think people are deluded when they say 'Obama was a good president' and people are deluded if they think Trump will be.
None of them are held account for the terrorism they bring to other nations, which fuels Islamic extremism.
Obama wasn't, Trump won't be either.
It is just a very minor story if some innocent family get blown to bits in a US airstrike, and forgotten about very quickly.
I love the US, but the US is never held to account for standards that lead to so much misery for the many innocent people they kill.

Obama wasn't, maybe Trump will be, but given both parties in the US support this mass slaughter, and have the media onside, it will continue to be unaccountable.

It was a grave crime when innocent people were being murdered by strikes given the go-ahead by Obama, and these same low standards will continue under Trump.
All they will do is fuel terrorism, and Trump won't wipe it out, all violence does is leaf to more violence, something Obama didn't seem to understand, or US foreign policy doesn't, unless the aim is for chaos.

And yet one of the main criticisms of Obama is that he wasn't more interventionist. Personally I think that the reality of the situation is that, bluntly put, people need to die. You can go into the Presidency with all the lofty goals you can dream up for exaggerated speeches (see Obama as a prime example) but when confronted with the reality, you have to kill.
Obama tried to lead a course towards more peace, slower tendency to intervene, managed to keep America out of further 'boots on the ground' interventions (for better or worse) but did maintain and expand drone killings.

It should be noted that Trump has promised 'radical Islamic terrorism which we will eradicate completely from the face of the earth', amid myriad other similar saber rattling, see bombing them back to the stone age, yes I'd torture etc. If people can't see that or acknowledge it as the rhetoric of a war monger I really don't know what aside from a nuclear fallout could convince them. Also Trump has already droned people.

darkpagandeath · 23-01-2017 07:42PM

B_Wayne wrote: »

Because there's international solidarity for those that do oppose Trump, both domestically in the US and globally. It's rather telling when you go on a rant on Germany being a Christian country. Freedom of religion is not just applicable to Christians and Germans aren't solely Christian... At least you've backed down on implying that the marching Muslims were extremists. :rolleyes:

In what way do tell. Pointing out facts = Racist ?

I Saw white Germans or Americans not Muslims, When did I talk about Muslims being bad ? I said it's sickening what they were shouting after a recent Terrorist attack. But lets just suggest Racism.

HellSquirrel · 23-01-2017 07:42PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Who has been Badly Treated by President Trump ? It's kind of like the thinking of the communists under the bed.

I was explaining what solidarity is. Read it again.

Venom · 23-01-2017 07:42PM

Grayson wrote: »

Venom said that not a single trump voter has done anything wrong. And anything that they apparently did wrong has been proven to be liberals pretending they were trump supporters.

I'm not doubting that some liberals have been dicks. Some have destroyed property and even attacked people. However I'm not going to say that no liberal has or that every liberal has. That would be incredibly stupid. Just like saying that no trump supporter behaved badly would be a very stupid thing to say.

So back on point, do you think that every negative action that's been attributed to Trump supporters is a lie perpetrated by a liberal hoaxer? Or is it actually possible that some Trump supporters are dicks.

See there ya goes twisting words again. I said all the stories the media ran about Trump supporters were proven to be false and in fact asked what have those Trump supporters actually done?

I know two guys acted like assholes in Starbucks when the staff wouldn't write Trump on their cups but its not really up there with rioting, outright making false police reports, destroying property and attacking people the left have been caught doing multiple times.

ScumLord · 23-01-2017 07:43PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Here's a picture of Trump talking about the reporter next to a picture of the reporter he had met in person.

I'm pretty sure I've seen other Trump speeches where he mocks non disabled people in the same way. It just so happens this time him mocking people as being retarded for disagreeing with him was pointed at someone with actual disabilities.

darkpagandeath · 23-01-2017 07:43PM

HellSquirrel wrote: »

I was explaining what solidarity is. Read it again.

I did read it Who has been mistreated by President Trump ? he's 1 day in office.

darkpagandeath · 23-01-2017 07:45PM

ScumLord wrote: »

I'm pretty sure I've seen other Trump speeches where he mocks non disabled people in the same way. It just so happens this time him mocking people as being retarded for disagreeing with him was pointed at someone with actual disabilities.

Aye its very bad form, But I don't think he thought about it to much when doing it.

Venom · 23-01-2017 07:47PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Here's a picture of Trump talking about the reporter next to a picture of the reporter he had met in person.

Trump has made that gesture when he's taking about people being confused, not knowing what to do and being indecisive in general.

Poor form to use it when dealing with the reporter but I honestly don't feel he was mocking the guy over his disability.

jobbridge4life · 23-01-2017 07:48PM

ScumLord wrote: »

I'm pretty sure I've seen other Trump speeches where he mocks non disabled people in the same way. It just so happens this time him mocking people as being retarded for disagreeing with him was pointed at someone with actual disabilities.

Do you have any examples?

Mocking people 'as being retarded' for disagreeing with him, is mocking people with disabilities, it is using them as a prop to denigrate others. Many people do it, but the President should not, and at the very least he ought to have fulsomely apologized. He didn't.

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