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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    Trump ok has not issued orders for he’s supporters to commit genocide or is proposing WW3 yet. What I have observed so far is not good though, and he does not act like a normal human being

    Trump similar to Hitler in lot of ways he’s militaristic. Trump believes in conspiracy theories that have time and time again proven to be wrong. He spreads lies about people he dislikes. Attacks women about their appearance and publically mocked a man with a disability for standing up to him. Just like Hitler Trump has threatened protestors, got them removed by force and was happy and laughing about it. How is this any way different when Hitler henchmen stopped people from protesting peacefully?

    Hes vilified Muslims, Mexicans and people of colour because they looked different. He has blamed minorities for crime, rapes and murders. A year ago or so talked about building a wall to keep Mexicans out, and he also wanted to stop all Muslim from entering the United States for one year. Do you not see how dangerous that is if he got he’s way? Hitler started off by just deporting Jews from Germany. The Mass killings of Jews came later, and only during a World War when Hitler had nothing left to lose. Would Trump carry out a genocide and wipe out Muslim populations?

    I see it like this Trump has shown he lacks apathy, remorse, decency, not emotionally stable, he lies about everything don’t care just like a dictator would act and lets not forget this man has been accused of raping and assaulting numerous women and was accused of raping a 13 year old girl. Trump is evil and is capable of carrying out terrible crimes acts against humanity, don’t be stupid and think hes not got in him!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf



    >Preaches "LOVE TRUMPS HATE"

    >Attempts to light a girl's hair on fire

    So tolerant :rolleyes:

    There are idiots on boths sides. Their actions don't invalidate the reason people protested just as the racist outpourings seen from knuckles draggers don't represent those who voted for Trump because they want gainful employment. A large part of the problems America faces today is generalising everything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath





    >Preaches "LOVE TRUMPS HATE"

    >Attempts to light a girl's hair on fire

    So tolerant :rolleyes:

    And they would be Feminists.... Is your fellow woman a target if they don't group think ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    gandalf wrote: »
    There are idiots on boths sides. Their actions don't invalidate the reason people protested just as the racist outpourings seen from knuckles draggers don't represent those who voted for Trump because they want gainful employment. A large part of the problems America faces today is generalising everything.

    After reading this thread I know that's patently not true. Both sides act as hive minds and all think exactly the same way and feel the exact same way about all issues…


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    gandalf wrote: »
    There are idiots on boths sides. Their actions don't invalidate the reason people protested just as the racist outpourings seen from knuckles draggers don't represent those who voted for Trump because they want gainful employment. A large part of the problems America faces today is generalising everything.

    Are Trump supporters lighting people on fire ? Smashing up Washington ? Shouting Ala ackbar in Germany ? A few idiots ????


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭pumpkin4life





    >Preaches "LOVE TRUMPS HATE"

    >Attempts to light a girl's hair on fire

    So tolerant :rolleyes:

    They're doubling down.

    They're destroying themselves.

    Let them. It's what they deserve.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,160 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Grayson wrote: »
    Dinesh D’Souza has been nominated for a razzie for his "documentary" Hillary's America. It's a conspiracy movie that's just ludicrous.

    Well that's just what you'd expect of the liberal NWO elite of Hollywood who don't appreciate the real America! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Trump ok has not issued orders for he’s supporters to commit genocide or is proposing WW3 yet. What I have observed so far is not good though, and he does not act like a normal human being

    Trump similar to Hitler in lot of ways he’s militaristic. Trump believes in conspiracy theories that have time and time again proven to be wrong. He spreads lies about people he dislikes. Attacks women about their appearance and publically mocked a man with a disability for standing up to him. Just like Hitler Trump has threatened protestors, got them removed by force and was happy and laughing about it. How is this any way different when Hitler henchmen stopped people from protesting peacefully?

    Hes vilified Muslims, Mexicans and people of colour because they looked different. He has blamed minorities for crime, rapes and murders. A year ago or so talked about building a wall to keep Mexicans out, and he also wanted to stop all Muslim from entering the United States for one year. Do you not see how dangerous that is if he got he’s way? Hitler started off by just deporting Jews from Germany. The Mass killings of Jews came later, and only during a World War when Hitler had nothing left to lose. Would Trump carry out a genocide and wipe out Muslim populations?

    I see it like this Trump has shown he lacks apathy, remorse, decency, not emotionally stable, he lies about everything don’t care just like a dictator would act and lets not forget this man has been accused of raping and assaulting numerous women and was accused of raping a 13 year old girl. Trump is evil and is capable of carrying out terrible crimes acts against humanity, don’t be stupid and think hes not got in him!

    You don't think the thousands and thousands of Muslims killed in the drone wars by Obama counts?
    I wonder if Trump can match Obama and kill an innocent family and their very young children within his first three days with a drone strike like Obama did.

    Obama's standards were very low and so many Muslim people died from his policies, but he was an acceptable face unlike Trump.
    Obama was never held to account, but it is good that people have now found a conscience, now that the President is Trump.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    I wonder if the thread should be renamed? Maybe call it "Yes, but Hillary and Barack"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭B_Wayne


    Are Trump supporters lighting people on fire ? Smashing up Washington ? Shouting Ala ackbar in Germany ? A few idiots ????

    Shouting "Allahu akbar" isn't extremism... They were joining all demographics in a protest against Trump. Freedom of religion is a right. Was there anything actually extreme about the Muslim protesters or do they just make you uncomfortable?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭Skullface McGubbin


    And they would be Feminists.... Is your fellow woman a target if they don't group think ?

    I think that took place at the women's march. If I'm right then that would be extreme irony.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    I wonder if the thread should be renamed? Maybe call it "Yes, but Hillary and Barack"?

    Lol Was Hillary not in the Election ... Jesus. Did Obama not hand over the power to Trump ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    B_Wayne wrote: »
    Shouting "Allahu akbar" isn't extremism... They were joining all demographics in a protest against Trump. Freedom of religion is a right. Was there anything actually extreme about the Muslim protesters or do they just make you uncomfortable?

    You realise Germany was recently attacked by the Allah akbar lads yes ? No thought for the family's at all. Sickening even to try and defend that kind of nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Lol Was Hillary not in the Election ... Jesus. Did Obama not hand over the power to Trump ?

    Yes she was and yes he did. Anything to say about Trump? His policies? His appointments? Rejection of TPP?

    Anything?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Yes she was and yes he did. Anything to say about Trump? His policies? His appointments? Rejection of TPP?

    Anything?

    I thought we were just making jokes about his hand and skin colour and his hair ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    I thought we were just making jokes about his hand and skin colour and his hair ?

    We can do that too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    I wonder if the thread should be renamed? Maybe call it "Yes, but Hillary and Barack"?

    Is that a euphemism for 'I am ok with double standards if it is a Democrat doing it?'
    Trump needs to be held to account. Something Obama was never subject to.

    As I said, it is good that people around the world have found their conscience, that went missing when Obama was in power and killing thousands and thousands of people - mostly Muslims.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath




    Got to love the sign not my President would be worried If Trump had invaded Germany.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Is that a euphemism for 'I am ok with double standards if it is a Democrat doing it?'
    Trump needs to be held to account. Something Obama was never subject to.

    As I said, it is good that people around the world have found their conscience, that went missing when Obama was in power and killing thousands and thousands of people - mostly Muslims.

    Agreed. Let's hold him to account on this thread. What do you think he needs to account for? Sexism? Lack of coherent policies? Overpopulating the swamp? Sabre rattling? What do you think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,434 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Is that a euphemism for 'I am ok with double standards if it is a Democrat doing it?'
    Trump needs to be held to account. Something Obama was never subject to.

    As I said, it is good that people around the world have found their conscience, that went missing when Obama was in power and killing thousands and thousands of people - mostly Muslims.

    He couldn't move without being held to account. What nonsense is this.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭HellSquirrel


    I've done that numerous times, what many posters on this thread haven't done is give him an ounce of praise for anything, or even a chance. I've posted close to ten tweets on companies announcing bringing jobs back to the US and they've either been ignored, or made fun of then the rhetoric immediately went back to bashing the man. That isn't a fair environment to have any sort of real discussion where the outcome of a point has a predetermined negativity to it.
    Given the jobs he announced he was bringing back were exaggerated and lied about, it's no wonder that people argued. And the rhetoric is, at least, pretty fair bashing from what I've seen. I'm sure there have been some unreasonable posts, but the incredibly unreasonable things in here -he has actually done or said-. That's why it's so negative. Because he keeps doing and saying lunatic things.
    Thing is this squabbling with the media or people wanting his taxes doesn't make me think for a second perhaps his opponent was a better choice. Anytime I bring up something related to her I get called out for dodging questions or trying to shift the blame elsewhere, and that isn't fair either. Someone makes the point that Trump might be sued for owning foreign hotels and accepting money, I make the point the state department were taking money from the Saudi's and what not and I get attacked for it. It's my honest belief a disaster was avoided with Trump winning and I'm prepared to at least give the man a chance. That doesn't mean you can't bash him or call him out, but even when there's something positive and it just gets ignored it feels like a one way street and this thread becomes pointless.

    The majority of the media is politically controlled by opponents of Trump, that is something which is never discussed here. If we want to talk about how brash Trump has been towards them, why can't we talk about the reasons for that.
    The problem is that the assumption is immediately that anyone who says anything bad about Trump is a politically controlled enemy. How do you expect a civil conversation on the matter when that's the starting point?

    Quite honestly, from having followed the news throughout the campaign, here's what I saw, and I'm sure others will have read it differently.

    - Early days; Trump was an outsider amusing candidate, the nut choice. He was mostly ignored until he started saying ridiculous things. The Republican field was ridiculously large and the media started covering the most interesting one - the one doing the shouting. There wasn't a great deal of fact-checking because it was mostly amusement.

    - Becomes candidate; That made people sit up, including individual reporters. And that's when fact-checking started to creep in and people started really turning against him. It was a "holy ****, what have we nominated here?" And the thing is, he was -still saying and doing- the same things. Only now they weren't so funny, it was dawning horror that he meant this ****.

    - Late days: The media is being accused of lying, Trump is able to say anything he likes and people will back up his nonsense in the face of all available evidence. After all, the media are obviously against him, so what he says must be true and what they say must be false. No, that's not the case. The media are obviously against him because journalists are individual people as well and, from close proximity and covering what he's saying, they're completely horrified. Yeah, the media are totally against him (bar Breitbart and Fox wants to be with him, but even they had to stand with CNN that time), but that's because the sort of bull**** he comes out with is offensive to their common sense, their knowledge of how things work and, frankly, reality.

    Now? The media is being lambasted by Trump for saying things he doesn't like. He accuses them of lying when they don't suck his ass (see size of crowd at inaugeration). And his supporters back up this complete nonsense and defend him while calling anyone who disagrees a liar.

    No **** the conversation isn't getting very far. Now, i'm not saying that the media doesn't need a reform. In truth, I think the best thing for the media would be their controlling themselves in their output. 24/7 news has left the quality poor. 24/7 filled with the sort of output Trump has is just ridiculous. One has barely finished sorting through his last dump and he takes another big old **** all over truth and decency. The media is publishing without fact-checking deeply enough because they simply do not have time as individual journalists. That's a bad look-out. And it makes it very very easy for something like Trump to get in and just overload with rubbish.

    In short, okay, you avoided disaster with Clinton. I don't agree, but that's by the by. She's gone. We got Trump. You won. But now this great big elephant in the room is what we -have- and to stick one's head in the sand, defending even the silliest things he does...where is anyone going to get with that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭Sonics2k




    Got to love the sign not my President would be worried If Trump had invaded Germany.

    Yes yes, we've all established that a few of the millions of protesters worldwide are nutjobs.

    Now, can we get back on to Trump breaking the TPP, appointing a climate change denier to the head of the EPA, a bafflingly inappropriate woman in charge of Education, a billionaire oil Tycoon as Secretary of State and two high ranking members of Goldman Sachs appointed to Trumps administration, or the fact that Trump still has not resigned from his companies like he said he would.

    Oh, how about his Executive Order to start dismantling the ACA without any plans to improve or replace it.

    Or would you prefer to keep deflecting because, as was said before, Trump is nothing more than a corrupt businessman who twisted people into thinking he was a good guy and actual gave a care for the working class and you got duped by a salesman.

    edit:
    For gods sake, even his Inauguration Hats were made in China, so he failed on the very first hurdle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Agreed. Let's hold him to account on this thread. What do you think he needs to account for? Sexism? Lack of coherent policies? Overpopulating the swamp? Sabre rattling? What do you think?

    I expect under Trump, the drone wars will continue to be a crime the US commits.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭B_Wayne


    You realise Germany was recently attacked by the Allah akbar lads yes ? No thought for the family's at all. Sickening even to try and defend that kind of nonsense.

    It's pretty clear that you can't cite them doing anything extreme. They were walking in solidarity with all parts of society and completely moderate. You're literally annoyed by them exercising their freedom of religion in a completely peaceful and moderate way. Plenty of people have found the all round solidarity regardless of background to be inspirational.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    listermint wrote: »
    He couldn't move without being held to account. What nonsense is this.

    Tell me how the US has been held account for the drone wars?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 279 ✭✭SkinnyBuddha


    I bet his handlers changed the password to something Trump couldn't bring himself to type, e.g. "IL0v3Obama". :pac:
    or more likely changed the input language to russian


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 199 ✭✭Il Fascista


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    Yes yes, we've all established that a few of the millions of protesters worldwide are nutjobs.

    Now, can we get back on to Trump breaking the TPP, appointing a climate change denier to the head of the EPA, a bafflingly inappropriate woman in charge of Education, a billionaire oil Tycoon as Secretary of State and two high ranking members of Goldman Sachs appointed to Trumps administration, or the fact that Trump still has not resigned from his companies like he said he would.

    Oh, how about his Executive Order to start dismantling the ACA without any plans to improve or replace it.

    Or would you prefer to keep deflecting because, as was said before, Trump is nothing more than a corrupt businessman who twisted people into thinking he was a good guy and actual gave a care for the working class and you got duped by a salesman.

    edit:
    For gods sake, even his Inauguration Hats were made in China, so he failed on the very first hurdle.

    Is it not logical to wait for these people to do something wrong before we assume that they're bad choices? I don't know Trump's reasoning on any of his choices, and neither do you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,833 ✭✭✭✭Grayson




    Got to love the sign not my President would be worried If Trump had invaded Germany.

    The anti trump protests were organised by a number of groups. In germany that included groups of expatriots. So there's a good chance the person carrying that sign was an american.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/21/how-world-reacted-donald-trump-inauguration-us-president


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    RobertKK wrote: »
    I expect under Trump, the drone wars will continue to be a crime the US commits.

    Drones will probably continue to be used. I doubt if Trump would bother with the detail of drone strikes. No headlines in stopping/continuing drone strikes.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    B_Wayne wrote: »
    It's pretty clear that you can't cite them doing anything extreme. They were walking in solidarity with all parts of society and completely moderate. You're literally annoyed by them exercising their freedom of religion in a completely peaceful and moderate way. Plenty of people have found the all round solidarity regardless of background to be inspirational.

    Solidarity ? They are White German Women. How is Trump not Their president When did he take over Germany ? How are White Germans excising Freedom of their Religion Germans are Christian.


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