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gandalf · 22-01-2017 01:27PM

Trent Houseboat wrote: »

Laugh away but his deranged supporters believe Spicer over any news reports.
The brainwashed see anything negative as media bias, Kim Don Trump has set himself forth as the only reliable source of information and the donkey-brained amongst followers have readily swallowed all of his lies.
Expect this to apply to any future failure too, job losses, economic downturn, natural disasters theyll believe whatever he tells them. He really can't be held accountable because he cannot conceive if having a made a mistake and they believe his Twitter feed is gospel.

All those expecting a backlash when he fails his base spectacularly may be in for a shock when his failures are believed as media lies or false flags or anyone else's fault.

At the moment you are absolutely right. They have won their fight against evil "Killary" and the swamp and I am sure that the Orange Messiah will be let away with quite a bit. But then as time moves on it is going to be very obvious to a blue collar worker who doesn't have a job at the moment and then doesn't have a job in a year or two that something is up, especially if he sees his peers are in exactly the same position. Then the fun times begin. And unless the Donald prescribes that US manufacturing has to move back to methods used in the 1950's that is going to be the reality.

I really hope the mainstream US media decides to go for the jugular with this joker Spicer but I suspect that most will tow the line with the odd whimper of defiance. It is sure going to be interest to watch it though and it's going to cost me a fortune in popcorn

Oafley Jones · 22-01-2017 01:27PM

super_furry wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdantUf5tXg

Just in case there's any questions over Spicer lying to the world in his first press conference, here's a time lapse of the entire day.

There's no point in convincing these people. They're mental shut ins essentially. Completely unable to determine fact from reality. They've accepted a reality state and are unable to escape it or question it. Again, I'm sure if you meet these people IRL you'd probably twig that they're not operating with a full deck and would smile and move on. Why ignore the relevant clues just because you're on the internet... Just remember, that these aren't essentially bad people, it's that they're just might be a bit broken in some capacity.

Trent Houseboat · 22-01-2017 01:29PM

red ears wrote: »

And I'm sure you will have enough integrity to praise him if he does well.

He'll get a standing ovation if he can pull off cheaper better health care for all like he's promised. Especially because he'll have to get it past his own party.

Billy86 · 22-01-2017 01:34PM

red ears wrote: »

It's why I don't trust the media anymore, the narrative must be followed so trying to show as small a crowd as possible suits their agenda. The crowd dispersed quite quickly after his speech.

In fairness it doesn't really matter anyway. The only thing that mattered was the vote. And trump won the election. Perhaps many of the decent people decided to give it a miss as they didn't want to get caught up in violent protests.

Don't worry, you can trust the media on this one. If you don't believe me, then click on the timelapse in the link (and also embedded in someone's elses post just a few minutes ago). The comparisons with Obama is taken right at the peak crowd level from Trump's inauguration (again, refer to the timelapse video) and on exactly the same plot of land that cover all the way to the back - which Trump didn't come close to filling, and which clearly is eating him up inside given what he had Spicer go out and ramble about.

Billy86 wrote: »

Not really. Here is the photo comparison of Trump's inauguration compared to Obama's, and below is a screenshot of the crowd at it's peak (right before dispersing, so would likely be during Trump's time on stage). They're pretty much identical.

The angle from the podium makes the crowd look bigger because the lower angle blocks out the blank spaces, it's a technique used in lower budget movies that need scenes with big crowds.

Link to the timelapse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdantUf5tXg

namloc1980 · 22-01-2017 01:34PM

Funny how the whole inauguration crowd narrative has moved. Initially it was accepted the crowd was smaller as DC is a democrat town and Trump fans being the down trodden hard working folks they are couldn't travel. That's now moved to this was the largest inauguration ever PERIOD. Clearly Trump's ego was badly bruised that the black man got a bigger turnout than he did, so he sent Spicer out to lie to the media and to create a revisioned "truth".

gandalf · 22-01-2017 01:38PM

I mean even a Texas NHL team was taking the piss out of Spicer yesterday

A TEXAS TEAM LOL!

http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1214347-stars-troll-trump-spicer-with-embellished-attendance-figure

Trent Houseboat · 22-01-2017 01:39PM

gandalf wrote: »

I mean even a Texas NHL team is taking the piss out of Spicer

http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1214347-stars-troll-trump-spicer-with-embellished-attendance-figure

I find it harder to believe that texas has an NHL team than I do Spicer's claims.

22-01-2017 01:50PM

It's quite interesting actually. America cares more about the inauguration crowd than the abysmal voter turnout.

Billy86 · 22-01-2017 01:51PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It's quite interesting actually. America cares more about the inauguration crowd than the abysmal voter turnout.

And as we can tell from yesterday, nobody cares more than Trump and Spicer, who were intent on it being the top item on the agenda.

B_Wayne · 22-01-2017 01:52PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It's quite interesting actually. America cares more about the inauguration crowd than the abysmal voter turnout.

It's mainly interesting because Donald sent out his press secretary to protect his damaged ego... The alt right etc go on about snowflakes while ironically Donald would appear to be the ultimate snowflake...

Satriale · 22-01-2017 01:59PM

B_Wayne wrote: »

It's mainly interesting because Donald sent out his press secretary to protect his damaged ego... The alt right etc go on about snowflakes while ironically Donald would appear to be the ultimate snowflake...

You'd think they'd roll in behind him so. The similarities are striking . A basket of inconsolables.

Fleawuss · 22-01-2017 02:03PM

red ears wrote: »

It's why I don't trust the media anymore, the narrative must be followed so trying to show as small a crowd as possible suits their agenda. The crowd dispersed quite quickly after his speech.

In fairness it doesn't really matter anyway. The only thing that mattered was the vote. And trump won the election. Perhaps many of the decent people decided to give it a miss as they didn't want to get caught up in violent protests.

It matters deeply.....to Trump and Spicer.

. It matters to anyone who cares about democracy that the White House is lying.

Outlaw Pete · 22-01-2017 02:08PM

Thought these lunatics were moving to Canada.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF-MMz61Wjo

gandalf · 22-01-2017 02:10PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It's quite interesting actually. America cares more about the inauguration crowd than the abysmal voter turnout.

To be fair we can't really preach to them about that. Voter turnout is getting worse here too.

gandalf · 22-01-2017 02:13PM

Fleawuss wrote: »

It matters deeply.....to Trump and Spicer. . It matters to anyone who cares about democracy that the White House is lying.

Well I am sure the White House has lied in the past the only difference this time is it is absolutely blatant and false. If I was more skilled at photoshop I'd try a Spicer/Comical Ali blend. Comical Ali is the only person I can think of who is more tainted a media spokesman than Spicer and to be fair to Ali it took him more time to become a joke

(or maybe that Irish Water women here locally would be in the ball park too!!)

Grayson · 22-01-2017 02:19PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

People are incredibly ignorant of history and it's one of the reasons history tends to repeat itself.

Nobody living in the newly unified Germany from 1871 to 1891 could have predicted less than 50 years later the country would be ruled by a Nazi dictator who would rule by fear and instigate war & mass-murder.

In fact, the mere idea would have been scoffed at and ridiculed; yet as history unfolded, Otto von Bismarck's legacy of maintaining peace through diplomacy would be shattered by the rise of the Third Reich.

Nowadays, if anybody suggests that America could go the same way as Germany did, people would laugh and ridicule the concept.

Just on this bit.... One of my favorite mathematicians/philosophers/logicians is Kurt Godel. He was Einsteins best mate. He fled the nazi's (Overland through russia because he hated boats and flying) to go the the US where Einstein was. When he was there he became a citizen. There's a story about when he became a citizen. The examiner who administered the oath said it must be great to be in a country where a dictatorship couldn't occur. Godel replied that he'd studied the constitution and had found some logical inconsistencies that could allow it and he felt something should be done about it. Einstein and their other friend promptly told him to shut the fcuk up because they thought he shouldn't be telling this guy there were flaws in the constitution that he was about to swear allegiance to

Just a little anecdote I'd heard.

RobertKK · 22-01-2017 02:19PM

I think the country is mostly run by the Pentagon, so while Obama was useless, Bush was useless, so was Clinton, it has been the Pentagon running the show, and things like the second Iraq war started before the GWB presidency: the 1998 UN resolution which was used along with lies from the intelligence services to invade that country, and the second Iraq was was planned for many years before it happened. 9/11 gave them an excuse to carry it out.

The president has the power but a lot of them seemed to have been puppets who were hand led by the Pentagon.
Maybe that is also why Trump on his first full day went to the CIA.

It has been said that Trump decided to run for the 2016 presidency in 2011, when Obama made fun of him at that event in Washington where Trump was in attendance, that Trump believed he could get elected and do the job Obama had.
These two people don't like each other, they pretend to get along.

People talk about the marches yesterday, they were nothing new, but I see the marches in Dublin were also about repeal the 8th, so it seems like other causes have joined along to protest.
The election of Obama led to the Tea Party and there were about a million people protest in Washington DC not long after the election of Obama.
The US has been divided for a while, but what happened yesterday was deja vu, except some people around the world also protested because it was better to protest Trump's election than let's say Putin's election.

We have to see what happens with Trump.
Trump would not be the first president to obsess about the media.
Last October I went on a day tour to where President Johnson was born and raised and then on to his ranch where he is buried and where he had his Texas White House.
The national park guide as we toured the house that has been kept intact as it was when President Johnson was there asked us 'why did LBJ have three TVs together to watch?
It was so he could watch the news and see what they were saying about him, and that he would ring up the TV stations to complain if they said anything bad about him.
The table in the dining room was positioned so he could see the TV in the living room, and he had a phone under the table where he sat to eat so he could make a phone call.
His bedroom where we saw the bed he died in, also had three TVs and a phone by the bed.
Lady Bird Johnson slept in a bedroom adjoining her husbands.
But people go on as if only Trump had this obsession with the media, but we know it is nothing new. With Trump it is more in one's face, and we can far more easily question the validity of the complaints unlike in the time of Johnson.

super_furry · 22-01-2017 02:23PM

https://twitter.com/MattOrtega/status/822953040588271616

recipio · 22-01-2017 03:02PM

He is a man child. Mine is bigger than yours - etc. I don't see him lasting four years.

BorneTobyWilde · 22-01-2017 03:03PM

Trump back tweeting. I thought that was to stop, that his device would need to be secure. Back tweeting and having a go at protesters '' why didn't they vote'' and still going on about crowds that were there, or not there at the inauguration.
This is very petty coming from the POTUS

Discodog · 22-01-2017 03:08PM

recipio wrote: »

He is a man child. Mine is bigger than yours - etc. I don't see him lasting four years.

John Simpson of the BBC, who's opinion I would value, agrees. The reason that Trump grovelled to the CIA is he knows that they can sink him, probably anytime that they choose. The idea that this man has behaved in the way he has without the spooks knowing is naive.

MightyMandarin · 22-01-2017 03:16PM

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/823150055418920960

:pac:

Oh dear, he's at it again

PopePalpatine · 22-01-2017 03:19PM

jameorahiely wrote: »

Madonna is to be investigated for threatening to blow up the white house at the #fascistsagainstdemocracy march yesterday

Which march was that? I just searched for it on Twitter, all I see are tweets critical of anti-Brexit marches after the referendum.

MightyMandarin · 22-01-2017 03:21PM

Just a thought, considering a lot of people are pissed off with the electoral college system- especially considering Trump lost the election by 2m votes- how long do people think it'll be before parties will start moving people or making fake addresses or buying property in key states for the election?

Both seem to gerrymander the **** out of districts anyway- republicans moreso than Democrats- so it's possible they could try and swing the election this way.

McDermotX · 22-01-2017 03:22PM

MightyMandarin wrote: »

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/823150055418920960

:pac:

Oh dear, he's at it again

This guy is fcuking gold !

Strap yourselves in......it's going to be hell of a toboggan ride !

namloc1980 · 22-01-2017 03:25PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Trump back tweeting. I thought that was to stop, that his device would need to be secure. Back tweeting and having a go at protesters '' why didn't they vote'' and still going on about crowds that were there, or not there at the inauguration.
This is very petty coming from the POTUS

He's tweeting about the inauguration crowds. Good to see he's got his priorities straight anyway. As mentioned by someone else, ego centric man-child.

BabyCheeses · 22-01-2017 03:41PM

gandalf wrote: »

Spicer has destroyed his credibility and opened himself up to absolute ridicule on his first day on the job with his first engagement with the press. Think about it, to fail that badly takes major effort.

But we should respect and give Spicer a chancer despite his lies, telling the press that they should be talking about other people's tweets and not answering any questions. Funny how no Trump supporters are talking about the lecture.

Fakediamond · 22-01-2017 03:42PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Well very few posters are criticising horseshỉt like the below.

I firmly believe Donald Trump is a narcissistic sociopath. I firmly believe he has surrounded himself with power hungry, right-wing lapdogs. I believe he is going to fill the military structure, courts and government with similar types.

More than anything, I believe there is not a hope in hell of a peaceful transition of power should Trump lose the 2020 election.

Yeah, I'm sure that statement will be laughed at and scoffed but Germany proved no nation is too entrenched in values to go the complete opposite way.

A narcissistic sociopath surrounded by sycophants with the strong support of the military is a dangerous individual.

The GOP can't (and won't) check Trump. The Democrats can't do it.

Do you agree with wonderfullife's version of reality?

Yes, i do, actually. I think America is sleep walking into a dictatorship and will continue to be blinded by trump's self-serving rhetoric. I mean, he's only been elected for two days and the absolute narcissistic bulls**t coming out of his mouth is breathtaking. To me he sounds like a big, spoilt baby, pouting about being treated unfairly, while ruthlessly dismantling any of obama's policies benefitting the less well off.

He's also talking about further controlling the media, which is highly alarming and will give him free rein to spread his lies more successfully. His ability to lie with impunity and so convincingly is just mind bending!

So yes, I think wonderful life's post was spot-on, and said everything I was thinking, just in a more articulate way

WinnyThePoo · 22-01-2017 03:44PM

Reading trump fans getting triggered when celebraties come out against trump is hilarious.

BorneTobyWilde · 22-01-2017 03:47PM

MightyMandarin wrote: »

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/823150055418920960

:pac:

Oh dear, he's at it again

And they we have someone waking up and seeing his tweet and saying

'' you can't say that'''

so this happens

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/823174199036542980

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