Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

cloudatlas wrote: »

When he can get much much more, don't be ridiculous.

The offer is the offer. Floyd won't give Conor half his purse. It's take 15m to get beat up or don't. Floyd is set either way.

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Ah here, this is ridiculous and pointless. Why would he do this. Makes no sense to me.


https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/819256823064784896

Why is Conor wearing ivory Coast trunks?

califano wrote: »

Dont overlook Max Holloway. Hes probably the most improved fighter in the ufc and has gone on a 10 fight win streak after their first fight went the distance. If not the next fight i can see this fight as one of McGregors next 3 fights. Holloway will be fighting at lightweight by then or just for that fight.
I can see the weight class thing being dumbed down a bit more under the new ufc management and their focus will be geared more on creating match ups rather than stringent weight classes fights. Catch weights will be more of a thing too. Generates high ppv and the fighter coming up a weight loses no cast in defeat.

i think conor destroys holloway at lw
fw is different

Gamebred wrote: »

lol

You might be laughing but you're (also) wrong.

Conor got (reportedly) $3.5 million + PPV cut for UFC 205. That amounts (roughly) to $10.4 million from the traditional model of purse+PPV.

When you factor in his personal endorsements with Budweiser/Monster and all other sources of income for fight night, you can probably go with anywhere between $10-$15 million. If he somehow negotiated above the $5 per PPV threshold then it's conceivable he cleared $20 million pre-tax.

Floyd is offering $15 million PLUS PPV points. The PPV would do comfortably 3 million (low-end) and could reach 5 million (if the stars align in the build-up).

Either way he could make between $45 - $60 million for the fight.

Now, of course, there's a whole myriad of conjecture above. I'm not pretending to know how much money he makes or his contract terms or the potential split between Showtime/UFC/Floyd/Conor/Paradigm etc etc.

All I know is you're looking at a $99.99 PPV that would sell 3 million units easily.

I.e. Ardinn is correct. This would be (by far) his biggest pay day and equivalent to 3 fights in the UFC (on his current contract).

Whether he lands a glove on Floyd is a total other argument. I'd love to see him catch Floyd with an inside-slip left hook and sleep him..... but i'd also love to win the Euro Millions.

Gamebred wrote: »

Without getting into a debate I am in fact not wrong,

ardinn stated that 15m is 5 times more than Conor has ever earned to fight in the UFC, that is completely factually wrong,

His purse to show is 3m alright but hes paid ppv points and endorsements hes clearing more than 15m dollars pre tax, not that I care really for the specifics too much,


15m to show v Floyd is insulting ppv pts or not too.

Ok but as I said above:

$3.5 million was his reported disclosed purse for UFC 205.
UFC 205 PPV was reported to have done 1.35 million
He gets $5 per PPV (which is the current highest tier)

That's $10.35 million.

You're making up the $15 million figure by factoring in his Monster/Budweiser/24Option type endorsements.

Either way, if we take the middle figure of $12.5 million pre-tax.....

He'd very likely clear $60 million against Floyd including endorsements - $15 million purse, PPV points on a 3 million+ buy-rate, and added endorsements.

So you'd still be wrong and it would be 5 times as much pre-tax. I still love you though

Blah I'm giving myself a headache butchering the maths here. :pac:

He makes a lot. He'd make a bunch more against Floyd.

Does anybody see him taking it the full 12 rounds if it materializes?

Gamebred wrote: »

Without being smart, do you think hes on a 3m flat contract?


If we are debating flat disclosed pay you are correct, but thats not his pay for any fight his fight pay includes bonus, sponsorship and ppv percentage which amounts to god knows what but as Wonder said 12m minimum I'd guess.

Without being smart do you think it's a 15m flat contract?

Mellor wrote: »

Nope. He'd go out there to finish or be finished imo.




I can't believe this saga still has legs tbh.

It is worth noting that Ariel usually dismisses this stuff out of hand but didn't tonight. And let's be real his "source" is probably Audie Attar as he seems to get nailed-on info about Ferguson, Bisping, Conor and Wonderboy (all managed by Audie).

Wayne McCullough had a tiny pop at Conor. Actually it was weird, he offered to train him in the same interview and said he knows the style to beat Floyd and then at the end of the piece he hinted Conor is too big for his boots to reach out to him.

I do find it slightly odd the timing of Floyds appearance on ESPN today though. It can't have been out of pure boredom, so I'm guessing he's trying to angle for some publicity to push something else.

I see Coach Kav is continuing his little rant about Meryl Streep, slagging her off about her upbringing & being privileged etc :rolleyes: I take it nobody from a well-off background is welcome in SBG......Pendred hmmm.....

I think people's main issue with her teary well acted speech was that she tried to pass herself, and the rest of her ultra rich and ultra entitled liberal friends, off as 'an outsider'. Yes Meryl, you're just like an illegal immigrant or starving refugee. Fcuk off. Just carry on adding to your 100s of millions you've earned from playing pretend. You've known nothing but extreme wealth and privilege your whole life,.......

Meryl actually cited herself, Viola Davis, Sarah Paulson, Amy Adams, Ryan Gosling and Ruth Negga in the start of her speech as examples of people who had come to Hollywood from diverse backgrounds.

Meryl had a comfortable upbringing for sure.

Sarah Paulson was raised by a struggling single mother in the Bronx. Viola Davis the 2nd of 6 children and lived in poverty her whole childhood. Amy Adams parents divorced when she was 11 and she was raised by her mother who was an amateur body-builder! Ryan Gosling's dad was a door-to-door salesman in Canada for gods sake. Ruth Negga was born in Ethiopia and raised in a super-privileged area by her mother.......Limerick City.

Most of them didn't have a pot to p1ss in growing up (just like Conor). The above actors/actresses became "ultra rich" for the same reason Conor became ultra-rich: hard work and perseverance. All of them had setbacks, knock-backs and failures and they all kept pushing on, kept improving their craft and kept trying.

Just like Conor.

Meryl never tried to make out that she was like an "illegal immigrant" or "starving refugee" and perhaps if JK actually listened to her speech properly he'd have heard that.

What she did was try to illustrate that Hollywood, for all it's faults, can be a place where people of all walks of life, colours, religions and backgrounds can come and be very successful if they have the talent, work ethic and some luck. Ruth Negga is a mixed race girl from Limerick ffs and she's making a few million now. Fair play to her. That was Meryl's point - if a girl like Ruth can make it there, then anybody talented can.

Meryl's speech was not about MMA. It contained half a sentence about MMA.

Her speech was about a powerful man mocking a disabled person yet not one word in John's little tirade even mentioned the fact Meryl was delivering an anti-bullying message. John attacked Meryl (ironically like a bully) for her political beliefs (why?) when the reality is Meryl gave a voice to the majority of Americans who feel very afraid of Man-Child Trump.

Her actual speech ended with:

"Isn't it such a privilege to be an actor".

Doesn't sound entitled to me.

For the record the only time she was teary eyed or almost cried in this "teary eyed speech" was when speaking about her friend Carrie Fisher who died 3 weeks ago.

You can have your own opinions, you can't have your own facts.

"So my last facebook post ended up on 15 websites, front page of newspaper and got me invited to Tubridy show and 10 other radio shows. I'm half tempted to go on a racist rant or similar for the craic to see the reaction."

For the craic? lol

JK follows Gavin McInnes, Tomi Lahren, Tucker Carlson, Ben Shapiro and Lauren Southern on twitter and he likes a lot of their tweets...... for the "craic" too I suppose?....:rolleyes:

It's only one tiny step from following that absolute mob of (alleged) white nationalist, intolerant, neo-nazi, racist, homophobic bigots to following the Ku Klux Klan on twitter. Hint: David Duke.

I couldn't give a monkeys if JK's political ideology lines up with the alt-right/neo-nazi movement or if he agrees with white nationalism. It's a free country, believe what you wanna believe, and it doesn't alter the fact he's turning into an amazing coach, who could well win Coach of the Year at the World MMA Awards. It'd be well-deserved too!

But spare me the rant and attack on Meryl Streep for her "liberalism" and "privilege", when all that woman did was use her platform to speak up for the vulnerable in society in the wake of bullying. JK would have served MMA better if he actually applauded her for speaking out against bullying, ignored her comments on MMA and used his own platform for some good. The fact he ended up front page of a tabloid for a facebook post should be a wake-up call that he does indeed have a platform.

Instead of handling Streep's comment with class, we have the head of the UFC calling her "an uppity 80 year old" and the most famous coach in Europe splashed across tabloid front pages using his platform by telling a 67-year-old-woman to "Fcuk off" and slating her for her political views, instead of defending her anti-bullying message. Imagine instead of "Fcuk off Streep" we had a headline of "McGregors Coach applauds Streep for anti-bullying stand".

Instead we have "Fcuk Off Streep". Wonderful. Tremendous. That's really going to improve the (terrible) image of MMA in Ireland to have our most famous coach coming across like an ignorant hot-head slating elderly women for their political leanings. If you're going to slate a whole cross-section of people as "ultra rich and ultra entitled liberals" at least do some basic research on the names she actually listed. They all came from working class, humble backgrounds (one of them Limerick) and had to work hard to perfect their craft - similar to a fella from Crumlin who is now also "ultra rich".

Meryl Streep displayed ignorance in her brief MMA comment. The reaction from Kavanagh was little better. At least she's old. Not sure what excuse to make for the Coach or Dana White for that matter. I doubt they want me making excuses for them anyway.

What does it say about the perception of MMA in Ireland when the first tabloid front-page John Kavanagh makes in 2017 (possibly ever) is not for his work with IMMAA & Safe MMA or an achievement with a fighter but for telling Meryl Streep to "fcuk off" for being a "rich liberal"?

Pretty sad stuff. Mixing politics and sport is usually a terrible idea.