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Truck Slams into Christmas Market in Berlin — Mod note in OP

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  • #92
    vapor trails
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭vapor trails


    I don't want to speculate on the total dead in this instance but I know the Charlie Hebdo shootings resulted in 12 people dead. It was big news at the time.

    Now these things are common place. The supply of massacres in Europe has reached a stage where I find myself desensitized to them. It's almost a part of EU life.


  • #93
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    This is what came to my mind when I heard about the truck driving into the Christmas market in Berlin.
    I hope none of them were there.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057058086&page=9


  • #94
    Oodoov
    Closed Accounts Posts: 337 ✭✭Oodoov


    Sad it's come to this. Our freedoms are being eroded more and more. Only read a report last night about european security forces being really worried about this very kind of attack.


  • #95
    RayM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Oodoov wrote: »
    What a shocking comment. Seriously uncalled for.

    Oh come on, is it really shocking when someone states the obvious?


  • #96
    The Specialist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭The Specialist


    JPCN1 wrote: »
    I guess in Russia post Beslan if you are spouting jihadi nonsense then suddenly you disappear and don't come back.

    The way it should be in all western countries.


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  • #97
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,263 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Clarebelly wrote: »
    All the posters as usual saying "oh, hold on, hold on, it may not have been a muslim this time; don't be so quick to judge, you wacist ".

    Well folks it was hardly a lad by the name of Paddy Murphy ploughing his Coke truck through the people whilst blaring out "Holidays are coming
    Holidays are coming....".

    It was when a Dublin bus crashed through a load of people standing at the 66 bus stop a few years ago. That driver had a heart attack.
    And last year a truck rammed through a load of people in the UK when a guy who didn't know what he was doing was behind the wheel.

    No-one is saying it wasn't a terrorist attack. People are saying that it might not be and it's sensible to wait and see. Just wait a few hours. If it turns out to be a terrorist attack then there will be plenty of time for gloating and rejoicing.


  • #98
    beks101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭beks101


    They've arrested the guy suspected to be the driver of the truck according to local media.

    https://twitter.com/ZDFheute/status/810945361498009601


  • #99
    nehe milner skudder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,182 ✭✭✭nehe milner skudder


    RobertKK wrote: »
    nehe milner skudder wrote: »
    Those bloody atheists ! They have to be stopped .

    No religion and people will kill others too, Pol Pot was a radicalised atheist and well over 2 million dead.
    You are comparing one genicidal arsehole with an ideology that many people currently subscribe to.


  • #100
    Oodoov
    Closed Accounts Posts: 337 ✭✭Oodoov


    vapor trails wrote: »
    I don't want to speculate on the total dead in this instance but I know the Charlie Hebdo shootings resulted in 12 people dead. It was big news at the time.

    Now these things are common place. The supply of massacres in Europe has reached a stage where I find myself desensitized to them. It's almost a part of EU life.

    Merkel and her ilk have made it part of EU life. You don't see these attacks in Russia, Dubai, Japan etc.. It's not rocket science.


  • #101
    alchemist33
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Merkel merkel merkel merkel, all before we know exactly who did this, their affiliations, their nationality, how long they've been in the country, how they got there etc. Same every time.


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  • #102
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,682 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Grayson wrote: »
    It was when a Dublin bus crashed through a load of people standing at the 66 bus stop a few years ago. That driver had a heart attack.
    And last year a truck rammed through a load of people in the UK when a guy who didn't know what he was doing was behind the wheel.

    No-one is saying it wasn't a terrorist attack. People are saying that it might not be and it's sensible to wait and see. Just wait a few hours. If it turns out to be a terrorist attack then there will be plenty of time for gloating and rejoicing.

    What's with all these references to people gloating and rejoicing terrorist attacks? Don't see any of that here. Imagination running away with people again.


  • #103
    Oodoov
    Closed Accounts Posts: 337 ✭✭Oodoov


    RayM wrote: »
    Oh come on, is it really shocking when someone states the obvious?

    Point out one post where anyone is "filled with glee". Go on.


  • #104
    Bob24
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,886 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    Irishmale0399 wrote: »
    Christmas Markets have been overly policed this year. You would want to be blind not to see the cops walking around in plain clothes with sniffer dogs. You could read only last week that a 12 year old was caught for the second time in a number of weeks with a jar/nail bomb which he planned to place at a Xmas market in Ludwigshafen after contact with known IS supporters....suspect Merkel isnt telling us an eight of whats going on.

    Anyways....local German press reporting at least 9 dead, over 50 injured and claims being made the lorry driver is armed (supposed to have fired a shot whilst leaving the scene) and on the run.

    Unfortunately since this high level of policing is not sifficicient to prevent such incidents from reccururing somewhere on the continent every couple of months, I think we'll see more and more public event involving large crowds being cancelled in Europe (I assume some of them have already been cancelled at their early planning stages in the past year due to safety concerns).


  • #105
    Icemancometh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 873 ✭✭✭Icemancometh


    Grayson wrote: »
    It was when a Dublin bus crashed through a load of people standing at the 66 bus stop a few years ago. That driver had a heart attack.
    And last year a truck rammed through a load of people in the UK when a guy who didn't know what he was doing was behind the wheel.

    No-one is saying it wasn't a terrorist attack. People are saying that it might not be and it's sensible to wait and see. Just wait a few hours. If it turns out to be a terrorist attack then there will be plenty of time for gloating and rejoicing.

    Do you really think people are rejoicing over this? Because it might be a Muslim who did it? If you think people who disagree with you think that way, you're sick.


  • #106
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Suspected driver arrested.


  • #107
    Clarebelly
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 250 ✭✭Clarebelly


    Grayson wrote: »
    It was when a Dublin bus crashed through a load of people standing at the 66 bus stop a few years ago. That driver had a heart attack.
    And last year a truck rammed through a load of people in the UK when a guy who didn't know what he was doing was behind the wheel.

    No-one is saying it wasn't a terrorist attack. People are saying that it might not be and it's sensible to wait and see. Just wait a few hours. If it turns out to be a terrorist attack then there will be plenty of time for gloating and rejoicing.

    I'll tell you one thing for sure........
    The longer it takes for the Main stream media to confirm the identity of the attacker, the more likely it's an Islamic Terrorist.


  • #108
    Barry Badrinath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    Grayson wrote: »
    Just wait a few hours. If it turns out to be a terrorist attack then there will be plenty of time for gloating and rejoicing.

    Whats this about?


  • #109
    languagenerd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭languagenerd


    seamus wrote: »
    Could have been a lot worse given the size of the vehicle, when you consider the toll in Nice.

    Wouldn't bother reacting to anything right now. There was talk of multiple shooters roaming around Nice after that attack.

    Give it an hour or two, we'll have less hysterical information.

    24hr news and social media are both blessing and curse. A generation ago, news outlets would have been able to just put out a short "breaking news alert" and had an hour or two to gather sources and info, but now they have to talk about the events live and constantly. Every theory, rumour and suggestion is then aired - with the "allegedly" caveat - but it really heightens fear and uncertainty at times like this. One channel was basically telling us the easiest ways to commit terrorist attacks a few minutes ago to fill time! Another said "there is, obviously, a massive manhunt for the driver" and less than 2min later, said "local media say the driver was arrested at the scene". It's impossible for them - but they also HAVE to report on it because we all want to know about it and we need reputable outlets to guide us through the social media storm.

    What a day for news stories in Europe.


  • #110
    Collie D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,513 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Regardless of whether the driver was a terrorist, a drunk or just lost control it won't change the outcome for nine innocents and their families. RIP.

    I see reports of suspect arrested. Good news.


  • #111
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    RayM wrote: »
    Oh come on, is it really shocking when someone states the obvious?

    I think you are very much mistaken, people are just fed up of innocent people being killed in what is our backyard, and nations whom we share a similar culture with.
    It is not that far away from us.


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  • #112
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    vapor trails wrote: »
    I don't want to speculate on the total dead in this instance but I know the Charlie Hebdo shootings resulted in 12 people dead. It was big news at the time.

    Now these things are common place. The supply of massacres in Europe has reached a stage where I find myself desensitized to them. It's almost a part of EU life.

    LePen will win in France and Afd in Germany are on the rise. What kind of Europe that will bring I don't know? The EU will likely break up but at least we will be in control of our borders. If the norm of Merkel, Juncker etal stay in power with their agenda attacks will increase. I can't understand for the life of me why Merkel persists with her mad unchecked immigration policies. There is something behind it and it's not for her having a good heart.


  • #113
    JPCN1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 946 ✭✭✭JPCN1


    The Specialist wrote: »
    The way it should be in all western countries.

    Don't know honestly, thats going down a very dark road...

    But I don't know what you do in the face of such hatred.


  • #114
    legocrazy505
    Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭legocrazy505


    Clarebelly wrote: »
    All the posters as usual saying "oh, hold on, hold on, it may not have been a muslim this time; don't be so quick to judge, you wacist ".

    Well folks it was hardly a lad by the name of Paddy Murphy ploughing his Coke truck through the people whilst blaring out "Holidays are coming
    Holidays are coming....".

    Oh **** off. I didn't even call anyone here "wacist" (because of course anyone who wants facts can't spell). There's a difference between immediately going "GUYS IT'S THOSE EVIL MUSLIMS" and "possible terrorist attack". We don't know the motives of the driver, their background, their nationality etc.

    So please just **** off back home.


  • #115
    vicwatson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    N24 tv saying co driver has died


  • #116
    Clarebelly
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 250 ✭✭Clarebelly


    legocrazy505 wrote: »

    So please just **** off back home.

    Very wacist expression.


  • #117
    The_Valeyard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    joint operation wrote: »
    that was me

    my daughter lives in berlin,

    Hopes she's okay


  • #118
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    legocrazy505 wrote: »
    Oh **** off. I didn't even call anyone here "wacist" (because of course anyone who facts can't spell). There's a difference between immediately going "GUYS IT'S THOSE EVIL MUSLIMS" and "possible terrorist attack". We don't know the motives of the driver, their background, their nationality etc.

    So please just **** off back home.

    I will delete my boards account if it doesn't turn out to be muslim related.


  • #119
    Hande hoche!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,952 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Absolutely horrible event.
    fr336 wrote: »
    Suspected driver arrested.

    That's good.


  • #120
    vg88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭vg88


    I've been to a lot of central european christmas markets over the last few years, there was always so much happiness. This year was different, I wasn't the most confident as I felt (over the last year stories of lone wolf attacks) someone might have a go at one of these christmas markets and today someone did :(

    RIP to all that died and to the many that will have injuries for their entire life.


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  • #121
    NoFreeGaffs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 198 ✭✭NoFreeGaffs


    European hospitality and compassion is misinterpreted as weakness. It's time our politicians stopped offering it, because this approach is not working.

    The whole continent will eventually be inflamed with this madness.


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