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why the hatred?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭COH


    Pffffft...I'd like to see a Tour de France winner win the Crossfit Games.

    Or a powerlifter win Wimbledon

    Or a lion tamer pilot a space shuttle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    COH wrote: »
    Pffffft...I'd like to see a Tour de France winner win the Crossfit Games.

    Or a powerlifter win Wimbledon

    Or a lion tamer pilot a space shuttle

    None of those sports require the level of 'fitness' required by road cyclists, thus none, especially crossfit, should award the title of 'fittest on earth' imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,369 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    What about mega endurance runners? The kind that spend three months crossing the Sahara.

    Lunatics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭RTighe


    Zillah wrote: »
    What about mega endurance runners? The kind that spend three months crossing the Sahara.

    Lunatics.

    http://inscription.marathondessables.com/default.aspx

    these guys!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    Brian? wrote: »
    There a lot of great things about the Crossfit methodology. Brilliant stuff altogether.

    It's the cultishness that drives me up the wall. The winner of the games is the "fittest man on the planet". He's perfectly adapted to crossfit alright. I'd like to see him win Le Tour de France.

    I also don't like the reps for speed idea with Oly lifts.
    as someone thats been doing crossfit longer than most now i honestly dont see ANY cultishness. What i see are the average person doing crossfit buying everything with reebok labeled on it and thinking they're elite because they can kick into handstand and do kipping pullups.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭MightyMandarin


    Zillah wrote: »
    What about mega endurance runners? The kind that spend three months crossing the Sahara.

    Lunatics.

    Those lads have incredible stamina and endurance and are without doubt some of the fittest on the planet, but I think one has to account for the distance and speed which they cover aswell. Most stages of the Tour are between 150-200km, some longer on flat and shorter on mountains. The speed those guys cycle at (typically between 40-50km/h on flat), notwithstanding the distance they cover with little rest and recovery, is still remarkable.

    I've been to 2 stages, one on the flat and one in the mountains and even with 7-8% incline on the road those guys still ****ing fly past.

    Personally I think the speed they cover makes them more worthy of the title imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭Reps4jesus



    I've been to 2 stages, one on the flat and one in the mountains and even with 7-8% incline on the road those guys still ****ing fly past.

    Personally I think the speed they cover makes them more worthy of the title imo.

    meh, we could all do that if we were cycling antelope blood into our bodies like they are.....
    But truthfully on ped's or not, wouldnt argue with you that these guys have to be very close to the top in terms of endurance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Not too many cyclists have won Ireland's Fittest Family.

    QED.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭whippet


    I keep telling my dog he's the 'best dog in the world' ... deep down I know he isn't .. but I like to keep up the charade to keep up the spirits at home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,468 ✭✭✭DylanJM


    I think the whole who's fittest thing is pretty pointless. I mean what even defines fit? It seems endurance is always used as the defining attribute. What about strength and mobility? I think they are pretty fundamental attributes in determining fitness. Is someone that can cycle 150km in a day but can only squat 50kg more fit than someone that can cycle 50km and squat 150kg? What about the middle person that cycles 100km and squats 100kg?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭shutup


    Its plain stupid to compare sports.

    No matter what somebody achieves there will always be something they cant do. They will always be a fan of another sport there to point this out.
    Just enjoy which ever sport you enjoy for what it is.

    The highlights of my sporting calander are Tour De France, Vuelta, Football World Cup or Euros and Intriguing MMA fights. It makes no difference to me if a gym head points out how little these guys squat or an athletics fans points out how slow their 100m sprint is.

    Anyway, why is it people hate crossfit again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,855 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    shutup wrote: »
    Anyway, why is it people hate crossfit again?

    Because youtube


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,007 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    Transform wrote: »
    What i see are the average person doing crossfit buying everything with reebok labeled on it and thinking they're elite because they can kick into handstand and do kipping pullups.

    I think you should start thinking about things from their perspective. In my head, being able to kick into a handstand or do a unassisted pullup(ignoring kipping) puts you at least into the top 10% of the adult population once you start heading past 30. For most people who have been introduced to fitness through crossfit and who are surrounded by obese people in all manners of their life, in their eyes they have suddenly become the elite.

    I work in IT though, so I might be biased in terms of my experiences. The only time weight becomes a issue to the people around me is when their belly becomes too big to fit comfortably between them and their desk, but not big enough that they can't just rest their keyboard on it. But you are heavily involved in the fitness industry and I'm assuming that a disproportionate percentage of your social circle is in that top 10%.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,880 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    shutup wrote: »
    Its plain stupid to compare sports.

    No matter what somebody achieves there will always be something they cant do. They will always be a fan of another sport there to point this out.
    Just enjoy which ever sport you enjoy for what it is.

    The highlights of my sporting calander are Tour De France, Vuelta, Football World Cup or Euros and Intriguing MMA fights. It makes no difference to me if a gym head points out how little these guys squat or an athletics fans points out how slow their 100m sprint is.

    Anyway, why is it people hate crossfit again?

    Just to be clear, I'm not saying cyclists are the fittest sportsmen in the world. I don't think you can say anyone is. It's stupid when crossfit do it.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,189 ✭✭✭drdeadlift


    Transform wrote: »
    now that REALLY made me laugh!!!!

    on a side note you will see more people wanting to join groups and group training as many people have lost connection with others and to become part of something bigger than themselves.

    Joe rogan raised this in one of his videos,intersting stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    drdeadlift wrote: »
    Joe rogan raised this in one of his videos,intersting stuff.
    im seeing it more and more as people move away from thinking connection on social media is real.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    I think you should start thinking about things from their perspective. In my head, being able to kick into a handstand or do a unassisted pullup(ignoring kipping) puts you at least into the top 10% of the adult population once you start heading past 30. For most people who have been introduced to fitness through crossfit and who are surrounded by obese people in all manners of their life, in their eyes they have suddenly become the elite.

    I work in IT though, so I might be biased in terms of my experiences. The only time weight becomes a issue to the people around me is when their belly becomes too big to fit comfortably between them and their desk, but not big enough that they can't just rest their keyboard on it. But you are heavily involved in the fitness industry and I'm assuming that a disproportionate percentage of your social circle is in that top 10%.
    true enough as 60% of the pop are overweight or obese so fat acceptance is the norm and its quite sad to think that we now have greater access to fitness facilities than ever before but willpower is still harder to control for many.

    Ive no problem at all and think its brilliant that people believe they're elite

    im just uncomfortable that people ACT and SWAGGER around like they believe they're going to regionals or the games because they've been doing crossfit for a year or came 9th in some local small crossfit type competition.

    As already mentioned there's good and bad to ALL aspects of fitness and that includes activities like yoga which you think would be non competitive.

    I do crossfit for me and try to help people get better at it without getting injured from junk metcons and poorly managed programming.


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