Road issues that irritate me.......

Surprise roadworks. One minute everything's normal, then you wake up one day and there's a gang of lads digging up your road to work. At best they'll put up some signs saying there will be roadworks but no indication of what they're doing.

In the UK they have a plan and information so that everyone who uses the road can plan around the roadworks. Here we're lucky if even the lads doing the roadworks have bothered with a plan.

Something which I've noticed over the last few months and is really starting to bug me. One of the local Maxol petrol stations was done up recently. They now have a one way system where you enter the station one way and exit through another. The exit has 2 lanes and is plenty wide to accomadate 2 cars side by side. The amount of people who still drive to the left of the exit and indicate to go right is staggering, holding the whole show up behind them. Tisnt rocket science, its clearly marked as an exit only. If you want to go right use the right hand lane and leave the left hand lane free for those of us who want to turn left....

On a 100k road, car following right behind a truck doing 80 with no intention of passing and no space for someone else to get in between. Now you make the passing distance way longer than it needs to be and considerably reduce the opportunity for others to legally pass that truck. Before you know it, there are now six of us stuck behind you. If you are not going to pass, then pull back and let the rest of us in between you and the truck.

The Raptor wrote: »

I must be the only pedestrian that waits for the green man.

So many times while I'm walking across the road, cyclists just come past me. If it's green for me, it's red for them. The cops should be out and not just penalise the drivers.

I get what your saying and of course there are a lot of red light jumpers out there, but at some lights the amber sequence is not long enough to accommodate a cyclist passing through the junction, the result being they have progressed through a legitimate green light but by the time they come to the other side of the junction the green man has lit. It doesn't mean you have absolute right of way, it means you can proceed when safe to do so.

Blatant red light jumpers p!ss everyone off and there's not enough enforcement on the roads to deter them no matter the mode of transport.

Drivers hogging the slow lane.

valoren wrote: »

Road works.

On a busy national road. In winter.

Let's not do it while the schools are off during the summer and overall traffic volumes are lighter, and with the additional bonus of longer day light.

Nah, we'll dig up the road in a town that badly needs bypassing, in the weeks leading up to Christmas and cause chaos and lengthy delays.

Seems very common. The works on Ballyfermot to Chapelizod bypass started the week the schools went back. And still ongoing.

Also at Lucan, just in time for Christmas shopping.

you're obviously right. What do they do when someone from the second exit (from the direction you're talking about) goes the whole way around to take the first exit(from the same perspective)..

I hate that people also slow everyone down by blocking etc instead of allowing zipper merges to work.

Seriously the amount of ****ing ***** who don't understand zipper merging. It's the most amazing tool for traffic management which is totally destroyed by people being selfish and never being taught about it. There should be ads on every ad break on tv explaining another aspect of driving.

they could do:

Zipper merges

roundabout lane usage

looking ahead to decide whether to overtake a cyclist before turning left in front of them

cyclists driving up the inside of a car already indicating to turn left

allowing yourself to be overtaken

when you should overtake

when tractors and other slow vehicles should pull in to let others pass, and when people should NOT pass slow moving vehicles

how big of a gap to leave behind a vehicle you are not going to overtake (hint: it has to be big enough to allow yourself to be overtaken)

how to check if your headlamps are adjusted correctly. Another hint, if you can see your lights are casting a shadow of the drivers in front of you, your ****ing lights are blinding them, you ****.

overtaking lane usage on multi-lane roads.

people flashing their headlights to tell others to turn on their lights at night.. no you fools you flick from dips to parking lights to tell someone their lights aren't on. That way everyone who has seen this knows you were giving the turn your lights on sign, not the speed van, hazard, "you're going too quick", or whatever else bollox people try to convey with a flash these days.

Also stuff like explaining that you put on your indicator to indicate your intention, not turn it on as you're already moving over. And if the person in front of you has their indicator on, preparing for the overtake, don't ****ing pull out before them when you realise you could also overtake!!!!!

here's a bonus annoyance:
People who move into lane 2 on approaching a 2 in 2 out roundabout, so they can drive beside you around the roundabout and take the same exit. WHY. ****ing stay behind and overtake after the roundabout, I don't want to have to deal with you straight lining and moving into my lane. If you attempt to do this I will drop a gear and get the **** out of dodge before you can say 'hur durr but i in fast lane u no under take'

Holysock wrote: »

It's actually one of the rules of the road and a theory test question that you should allow signalling buses back into the stream of traffic.

Should or must?

Because there are real rules of the road that state all traffic must give way to vehicles already on the road

Holysock wrote: »

Because it's one of the rules of the road (and a theory test question) that you should allow signalling buses back into the stream of traffic after they let passengers on and off.

Also it's nice

It's not a "rule", it's a recommendation in the ROTR on how the RSA think it is best to act.

Holysock wrote: »

Because it's one of the rules of the road (and a theory test question) that you should allow signalling buses back into the stream of traffic after they let passengers on and off.

Also it's nice

A link would be nice.

I never said you couldn't do it to be nice

frozenfrozen wrote: »

Should or must?
Because there are real rules of the road that state all traffic must give way to vehicles already on the road

Balance thiat against the overtaking regulations which prohibit overtaking where it would cause inconvenience to others.

10. (1) A driver shall not overtake, or attempt to overtake, if to do so would endanger, or cause inconvenience to, any other person.

Not letting a bus out causes inconvenience to all the passengers on the bus.

frozenfrozen wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Sometimes you have to decide what is the right thing to do.

Feckers that dally at traffic lights taking 15+ seconds to take off then craaawl over the line then brake, have a look around in case they miss anything! before eventually driving off!
This totally plsses me off! This to me is driving without consideration for other drivers! Not thinking about who's behind


AND! Who get's penalised? The Amber Gambler! This is totally wrong!
The lights on my side street only stay green for about 20 seconds, enough for 4 or 5 cars to get through then it's another 2 minute wait! But what do we have most of the time? Some bell-end that takes his time! Just as long as they get through IT'S [EMAIL="F@CK"]F@CK[/EMAIL] EVERYONE ELSE!


When the lights are green JUST GO! Dammit!

pablo128 wrote: »

If you could throw a link up to where the bus was pulling out without checking the mirrors, that would be great.

And yes, I have read the thread.

that would be great

pablo128 wrote: »

So you were making it up, while telling a poster to read the thread properly. LOL. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:;)

Ok so pablo when are you going to call out the other poster for the great reply to me about it being illegal to inconvenience a bus by overtaking it (LOL)

Let's have a really passive aggressive read though the thread and see if you will ever forgive me (don't know why you've chosen to ask for a citation but hey just for the fact you quoted office space here's a big long reply where I will needlessly laboriously go through a fcuking thread on boards to try explain a reply I made to someone else, to you else who has for some reason taken issue with me shutting down someone who suggested it's illegal to inconvenience a bus by overtaking it) I'm glad you cared so much as to ask for this, it really boggles my mind but here we go this one's for you(?)

pablo128 wrote: »

If you could throw a link up to where the bus was pulling out without checking the mirrors, that would be great.

And yes, I have read the thread.

first let's dissect my post which you've taken issue with

did you read the full context? Busses pulling out without checking their mirror were the issue. It was then suggested you're legally obliged to let them out, even though most of the time they pull out as soon as they slap on their indicator.

I said I slow down way back because I don't ever want to be beside them when they decide they want to pull out NOW and **** everyone else on the road including motorbikes (me) which they don't check for.

Sometimes you have to decide to read the thread before replying.

"Busses which pull out without checking were the issue" OK here's your issue(?), these exact words weren't said, but if he had followed the thread I think it's more than fair to say he should not have interpreted what I had said in such a way as to come with with that utter **** about it being illegal to overtake a bus because you may inconvenience them. What was actually being discussed was a non-existent right of way for busses to pull out as long as they have their indicators on, I said without checking their mirrors oops sorry that must be a direct reaction from having busses nearly side swipe me on my motorbike because they don't look or listen and just pull out when they slap the indicator, after all they have a right of way to pull out into the flow of traffic (:rolleyes:)

It may be a mental leap but is it not obvious this is down to

es they can be curtious but a bus does not have the right just to pull out. They have to obey just like all traffic

and the reply stating they have the right of way to pull out as long as they're indicating, as if the flow of traffic does not matter?

from the top minus the post holysock deleted which I originally replied to.

Holysock wrote: »

Drivers who don't let a bus clearly indicating right back into traffic after they've let passengers on/off, and insist on overtaking it.

A fair remark. In the circumstance that you arrive behind the bus after it is already indicating to move off. But how often is there not a stream of traffic flowing along while a bus is pulled in picking up passengers?

martingriff wrote: »

Ok going to bite. Why do they have to let them. Yes they can be curtious but a bus does not have the right just to pull out. They have to obey just like all traffic. I am also looking as taxis in relation to this

A fair reply, busses must wait just like all traffic until it is clear and safe to pull out. So at this point please notice we now have the assertion that busses are not entitled to just pull out whenever they like.

This part we have both just read together may be where you have an issue, but I think the reply to this should cement the reason I replied

Holysock wrote: »

Because it's one of the rules of the road (and a theory test question) that you should allow signalling buses back into the stream of traffic after they let passengers on and off.

Also it's nice

Now it is suggested that it is a rule of the road and theory test question to allow a bus to simply pull out as long as they have their indicator on.

So at this point can we agree that it has been suggested that busses have a right of way to pull out into traffic as long as they have their indicator on? In the real world I have come across this where I will be driving or riding past a stopped bus and in the same movement of the hands the indicator is slapped up and the steering wheel is put on full lock to pull out into my path. Are they checking their mirrors and doing this on purpose or are they just pulling out because they assume they have right of way to pull out into the path of other traffic? Or maybe, just maybe bus drivers can be as **** as all the other people on the road and they count as road issues this thread is here to complain about.


I then got this absurd reply, suggesting that overtaking a parked bus is against 'regulations' because it would cause inconvenience to others.

Veloce150 wrote: »

Balance thiat against the overtaking regulations which prohibit overtaking where it would cause inconvenience to others.

Not letting a bus out causes inconvenience to all the passengers on the bus.

So it's apparently 'against the overtaking regulations' to drive past a bus as you may cause inconvenience to others since the driver couldn't pull out into the flow of traffic at whatever moment in time they choose.

Veloce150 wrote: »

Sometimes you have to decide what is the right thing to do.

Got this which I then replied to with me questioning did they read the thread since they clearly totally missed the point* that the 'rule of the road' stating that busses are allowed to pull out into the path of traffic as long as they are indicating was suggested. This I obviously took issue with since I have been nearly side swiped multiple times by bus drivers who seem to actually believe that they can slap on the indicator and put on full lock in the same hand motion and pull directly out.

*so have you missed the point too and you're just looking for a meaningless argument? Because for someone who has read the thread you seem to have had a hard time making the tiny mental leap between a right of way to pull out into the flow of traffic and my freudian slip of saying not checking their mirrors.

I'm deeply sorry I gave a ****ty reply to that wonderful effort of trying to suggest it's illegal to overtake a bus. I sincerely hope you will forgive me :pac: