Dublin man vomits because his car was taken for not paying tolls

Fred Swanson · 07-12-2016 09:58PM #1

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4ensic15 · 07-12-2016 10:03PM

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Don't pay a toll and it keeps increasing. easy to get into thousands. Even 4 or 5 a year will cause that much of a bill.

super_furry · 07-12-2016 10:05PM

Love that wolf t-shirt. You keep doing you sir.

TheRiverman · 07-12-2016 10:06PM

1850-715815,51551,Joe@rte.ie will sort it all tomorrow:rolleyes:

Seth Brundle · 07-12-2016 10:08PM

Hr didn't pay one or more tolls, ignored the first warning letter. Then ignored the second warning letter, and the third, and do on.
He could have engaged with EFlow but chose not to. He ignored the solicitors letters.
He now has had to pay the price for being immature.
Moral of the story: if you can't pay for something then don't use it!

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy · 07-12-2016 10:09PM

Eflow fees are a bit on the steep side if you let it go too far, but he took the piss. How much of it is their legal fees/recovery costs?

road_high · 07-12-2016 10:09PM

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Must have been using it so much to get to/from work...;) I wonder was that the reason??

Allinall · 07-12-2016 10:13PM

Where does it say he was from Tallaght?

super_furry · 07-12-2016 10:15PM

Reading the story it say he did pay his bills and has receipts for doing so but that he started getting notices of journeys he didn't make and ignored them. It's not beyond the realms of possibilities that his plate was cloned but he shouldn't have ignored those letters.

arayess · 07-12-2016 10:15PM

to the sound of his Opel Astra being towed away outside his home in Balbriggan, Dublin.

Balbriggan <> Tallaght

Fred Swanson · 07-12-2016 10:17PM

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Mr. FoggPatches · 07-12-2016 10:19PM

How much vomit would it take to cover 16K?

K.Flyer · 07-12-2016 10:21PM

Can someone please explain how dafug someone can rack up over 16,000 euro in toll charges, even with max penalties applied?
How many journeys would that take?

road_high · 07-12-2016 10:24PM

K.Flyer wrote: »

Can someone please explain how dafug someone can rack up over 16,000 euro in toll charges, even with max penalties applied?
How many journeys would that take?

I'd iamaginbe if you were using it weekly/daily over a long period and not paying the bills and penalties would rack up quickly.
Say €100 per unpaid trip, each way once a week for a year and it could be €10k in no time.

4ensic15 · 07-12-2016 10:25PM

K.Flyer wrote: »

Can someone please explain how dafug someone can rack up over 16,000 euro in toll charges, even with max penalties applied?
How many journeys would that take?

Initial default - penalty charge of €3.00
After 14 days - additional penalty charge of €41.00
After further 56 days - additional penalty charge of €102.50
Total fines per passage - €146.50

About 70 or 80 would do it when court costs are added in.

Allinall · 07-12-2016 10:27PM

K.Flyer wrote: »

Can someone please explain how dafug someone can rack up over 16,000 euro in toll charges, even with max penalties applied?
How many journeys would that take?

I think each journey ramps up to about €150 if all notices are ignored.

That would be about 100 journeys.

Very easy to rack up that many over a few months.

Walter2016 · 07-12-2016 10:30PM

K.Flyer wrote: »

Can someone please explain how dafug someone can rack up over 16,000 euro in toll charges, even with max penalties applied?
How many journeys would that take?

Add in legal charges for district court and the continued increasing penalties and sheriff costs and you are at 16k quite quickly.

Considering the number of letters, warnings and eventual serving of court summons, it shows abject stupidity for someone to allow it go so far.

I don't believe an iota of his story. If he was anyway genuine he'd have been able to resolve it long ago.

In any case, why didn't he get a tag and save costs.

My guess is he was one of the types who drove close behind a truck and thought he'd get away with it - not realising they have rear view cameras for those drivers.

Outlaw Pete · 07-12-2016 10:31PM

Fecking Chris De Burgh fans taking his songs literally again. It's a metaphor lads, a fcuking metaphor!

Atlantic Dawn · 07-12-2016 10:31PM

What I don't understand is from the story it seems ownership of the car recently changed yet he got the bill for €16k which would have taken a huge amount of tolls and time to accumalate considering it takes 56 days for the fee to reach €103. He would have needed over 150 unpaid tolls going over 56 days to get where he is now. Whoy has he not looked for photos of each toll so he could determine it was not his car, the whole story is full of holes, sounds like a 101% chancer.

https://www.eflow.ie/help-guidance/faqs/penalties/ive-missed-the-payment-de-1/

Larbre34 · 07-12-2016 10:31PM

Jofus Duffy had him on today in fact. His argument seemed to be, "but it cant be that much, it just cant".

Well, it is. I know of someone against whom a judgement was secured for accumulated parking fines and penalties for €90,000. So much for deciding the law doesnt apply to you.

arayess · 07-12-2016 10:32PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

What I don't understand is from the story it seems ownership of the car recently changed yet he got the bill for €16k which would have taken a huge amount of tolls and time to accumalate considering it takes 56 days for the fee to reach €103. He would have needed over 150 unpaid tolls going over 56 days to get where he is now. Whoy has he not looked for photos of each toll so he could determine it was not his car, the whole story is full of holes, sounds like a 101% chancer.

https://www.eflow.ie/help-guidance/faqs/penalties/ive-missed-the-payment-de-1/

it could be possible somebody is driving about on a fake licence raking up bills in this lads name

Atlantic Dawn · 07-12-2016 10:34PM

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it could be possible somebody is driving about on a fake licence raking up bills in this lads name

In which case the photos of the car would clear it up, simple things like a garage sticker on the car or dealers details on the number plate or position of the tax/nct/insurance disc would clear him. He was on with Duffy earlier and his story had more holes than a lady of the night on Leeson Street.

andekwarhola · 07-12-2016 10:36PM

I've always found eflow decent enough on the few occasions I forgot to pay. IIRC they waived the late charges because I got on to them as soon as they flagged it to me.

If it's a genuine fcuk up, hope it gets sorted but otherwise hopefully a bit of a reality check for the Want Everything, Pay Nothing crew

Bananaleaf · 07-12-2016 10:40PM

arayess wrote: »

Balbriggan <> Tallaght

Nope, it does say he is from Tallaght. In one of the captions. Says they live in Balbriggan

andekwarhola · 07-12-2016 10:41PM

Bananaleaf wrote: »

Nope, it does say he is from Tallaght. In one of the captions. Says they live in Balbriggan

Obviously a piece of information crucial to the story.

Or not.

matchthis · 07-12-2016 10:45PM

Allinall wrote: »

Where does it say he was from Tallaght?

One of the pictures has it in the footnote.

Picture 3 of 5

super_furry · 07-12-2016 10:53PM

Wonder if the car being transferred to his ownership was an effort to get around having it taken.

Fuzzy Clam · 07-12-2016 11:00PM

Walter2016 wrote:

In any case, why didn't he get a tag and save costs.

This.
If he's doing so many journeys, save the hastle of having to pay each time. Story stinks anyway.

Ash.J.Williams · 07-12-2016 11:02PM

Legal proceedings kick in once your single journey penalty reaches €140. Not sure if the figure keeps rising. 57 return journeys would then equal 16000 ish

darkpagandeath · 07-12-2016 11:02PM

Out of interest is there no legislation to stop this kind of thing. It's totally out of kilter in relation to the lost revenue.

Seth Brundle · 07-12-2016 11:03PM

[quote="andekwarhola;101901095"
If it's a genuine fcuk up, hope it gets sorted but otherwise hopefully a bit of a reality check for the Want Everything, Pay Nothing crew[/quote]
If it was a genuine fcuked up then I suspect that eflow would have assisted him (as they do) when he called them.
The only plausible scenario is that he ignored all of the many warning letters received.

Dublin man vomits because his car was taken for not paying tolls

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