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Dublin man vomits because his car was taken for not paying tolls

  • 07-12-2016 8:58pm
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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭4ensic15


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    Don't pay a toll and it keeps increasing. easy to get into thousands. Even 4 or 5 a year will cause that much of a bill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,350 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Love that wolf t-shirt. You keep doing you sir.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,293 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    1850-715815,51551,Joe@rte.ie will sort it all tomorrow:rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,927 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Hr didn't pay one or more tolls, ignored the first warning letter. Then ignored the second warning letter, and the third, and do on.
    He could have engaged with EFlow but chose not to. He ignored the solicitors letters.
    He now has had to pay the price for being immature.
    Moral of the story: if you can't pay for something then don't use it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    Eflow fees are a bit on the steep side if you let it go too far, but he took the piss. How much of it is their legal fees/recovery costs?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,812 ✭✭✭✭road_high


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    Must have been using it so much to get to/from work...;) I wonder was that the reason??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,127 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Where does it say he was from Tallaght?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,350 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Reading the story it say he did pay his bills and has receipts for doing so but that he started getting notices of journeys he didn't make and ignored them. It's not beyond the realms of possibilities that his plate was cloned but he shouldn't have ignored those letters.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    to the sound of his Opel Astra being towed away outside his home in Balbriggan, Dublin.


    Balbriggan <> Tallaght


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Mr. FoggPatches


    How much vomit would it take to cover 16K?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    Can someone please explain how dafug someone can rack up over 16,000 euro in toll charges, even with max penalties applied?
    How many journeys would that take?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,812 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    K.Flyer wrote: »
    Can someone please explain how dafug someone can rack up over 16,000 euro in toll charges, even with max penalties applied?
    How many journeys would that take?

    I'd iamaginbe if you were using it weekly/daily over a long period and not paying the bills and penalties would rack up quickly.
    Say €100 per unpaid trip, each way once a week for a year and it could be €10k in no time.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭4ensic15


    K.Flyer wrote: »
    Can someone please explain how dafug someone can rack up over 16,000 euro in toll charges, even with max penalties applied?
    How many journeys would that take?

    Initial default - penalty charge of €3.00
    After 14 days - additional penalty charge of €41.00
    After further 56 days - additional penalty charge of €102.50
    Total fines per passage - €146.50


    About 70 or 80 would do it when court costs are added in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,127 ✭✭✭Allinall


    K.Flyer wrote: »
    Can someone please explain how dafug someone can rack up over 16,000 euro in toll charges, even with max penalties applied?
    How many journeys would that take?

    I think each journey ramps up to about €150 if all notices are ignored.

    That would be about 100 journeys.

    Very easy to rack up that many over a few months.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Walter2016


    K.Flyer wrote: »
    Can someone please explain how dafug someone can rack up over 16,000 euro in toll charges, even with max penalties applied?
    How many journeys would that take?

    Add in legal charges for district court and the continued increasing penalties and sheriff costs and you are at 16k quite quickly.

    Considering the number of letters, warnings and eventual serving of court summons, it shows abject stupidity for someone to allow it go so far.

    I don't believe an iota of his story. If he was anyway genuine he'd have been able to resolve it long ago.

    In any case, why didn't he get a tag and save costs.

    My guess is he was one of the types who drove close behind a truck and thought he'd get away with it - not realising they have rear view cameras for those drivers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Fecking Chris De Burgh fans taking his songs literally again. It's a metaphor lads, a fcuking metaphor!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,340 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    What I don't understand is from the story it seems ownership of the car recently changed yet he got the bill for €16k which would have taken a huge amount of tolls and time to accumalate considering it takes 56 days for the fee to reach €103. He would have needed over 150 unpaid tolls going over 56 days to get where he is now. Whoy has he not looked for photos of each toll so he could determine it was not his car, the whole story is full of holes, sounds like a 101% chancer.

    https://www.eflow.ie/help-guidance/faqs/penalties/ive-missed-the-payment-de-1/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,106 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Jofus Duffy had him on today in fact. His argument seemed to be, "but it cant be that much, it just cant".

    Well, it is. I know of someone against whom a judgement was secured for accumulated parking fines and penalties for €90,000. So much for deciding the law doesnt apply to you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    What I don't understand is from the story it seems ownership of the car recently changed yet he got the bill for €16k which would have taken a huge amount of tolls and time to accumalate considering it takes 56 days for the fee to reach €103. He would have needed over 150 unpaid tolls going over 56 days to get where he is now. Whoy has he not looked for photos of each toll so he could determine it was not his car, the whole story is full of holes, sounds like a 101% chancer.

    https://www.eflow.ie/help-guidance/faqs/penalties/ive-missed-the-payment-de-1/

    it could be possible somebody is driving about on a fake licence raking up bills in this lads name


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,340 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    arayess wrote: »
    it could be possible somebody is driving about on a fake licence raking up bills in this lads name

    In which case the photos of the car would clear it up, simple things like a garage sticker on the car or dealers details on the number plate or position of the tax/nct/insurance disc would clear him. He was on with Duffy earlier and his story had more holes than a lady of the night on Leeson Street.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    I've always found eflow decent enough on the few occasions I forgot to pay. IIRC they waived the late charges because I got on to them as soon as they flagged it to me.

    If it's a genuine fcuk up, hope it gets sorted but otherwise hopefully a bit of a reality check for the Want Everything, Pay Nothing crew


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    arayess wrote: »
    Balbriggan <> Tallaght

    Nope, it does say he is from Tallaght. In one of the captions. Says they live in Balbriggan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    Bananaleaf wrote: »
    Nope, it does say he is from Tallaght. In one of the captions. Says they live in Balbriggan

    Obviously a piece of information crucial to the story.

    Or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭matchthis


    Allinall wrote: »
    Where does it say he was from Tallaght?

    One of the pictures has it in the footnote.

    Picture 3 of 5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,350 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Wonder if the car being transferred to his ownership was an effort to get around having it taken.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,293 ✭✭✭Fuzzy Clam


    Walter2016 wrote:
    In any case, why didn't he get a tag and save costs.

    This.
    If he's doing so many journeys, save the hastle of having to pay each time. Story stinks anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,810 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Legal proceedings kick in once your single journey penalty reaches €140. Not sure if the figure keeps rising. 57 return journeys would then equal 16000 ish


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Out of interest is there no legislation to stop this kind of thing. It's totally out of kilter in relation to the lost revenue.


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,927 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    [quote="andekwarhola;101901095"
    If it's a genuine fcuk up, hope it gets sorted but otherwise hopefully a bit of a reality check for the Want Everything, Pay Nothing crew[/quote]
    If it was a genuine fcuked up then I suspect that eflow would have assisted him (as they do) when he called them.
    The only plausible scenario is that he ignored all of the many warning letters received.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    Obviously a piece of information crucial to the story.

    Or not.

    The story itself being of a crucial nature in general of course


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,962 ✭✭✭glenfieldman


    Could someone explain the lazy journalism from the Indo, that they cover a Liveline story everyday
    If its just an intern trying to do a good job, its ok
    But if its a fully paid up hack I despair for this rag


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Fcuking hate that M50 toll. I'd say the amount of people that forget to pay it the next day is unreal. I myself just paid one for €46 today after forgetting to pay it multiple times. :-(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,135 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    kbannon wrote: »
    Hr didn't pay one or more tolls, ignored the first warning letter. Then ignored the second warning letter, and the third, and do on.
    He could have engaged with EFlow but chose not to. He ignored the solicitors letters.
    He now has had to pay the price for being immature.
    Moral of the story: if you can't pay for something then don't use it!


    Should we all do that with bills owed to us ? What legal right has Eflow to do that,to increase a small charge into a 16k bill ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,065 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    What's buggin me is
    "What colour was the vomit " :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,135 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Out of interest is there no legislation to stop this kind of thing. It's totally out of kilter in relation to the lost revenue.

    I would love to know the legality of it. Why can Eflow do it but not me .
    Why can't I increase a bill of 1.50 to 16k ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 97 ✭✭Laeot


    Gubberment
    Call for a revolution
    Etc
    Bye


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,776 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Should we all do that with bills owed to us ? What legal right has Eflow to do that,to increase a small charge into a 16k bill ?

    Right to recuperate costs, yes. Be interrested to know how much of it was actually tolls.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,135 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,135 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Right to recuperate costs, yes. Be interrested to know how much of it was actually tolls.

    Less than a tenner I bet .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,776 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Less than a tenner I bet .

    I'd take you up on that bet, judging by the receipts in the picture.

    In any case, he should really know exaclty how much he owes in tolls alone and state it. Whatever the cost, though, and whatever the legallity of it, he's obviously a serial offender and thinks he can get away with ignoring letters. Baaaad idea.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Right to recuperate costs, yes. Be interrested to know how much of it was actually tolls.

    Is that not only in relation to court the legal costs ? As you can fire out as many solicitors letters you like but that's your cost ? As up until the courts its a threat of legal action. Because I wager this would have to go through the small claims courts. Amount actually owed rather than their internal fines ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,776 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Is that not only in relation to court the legal costs ? As you can fire out as many solicitors letters you like but that's your cost ? As up until the courts its a threat of legal action.

    Ask a solicitor!! They're not cheap.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭Robsweezie




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    The partner is still keeping an eye out in case the balliffs come back is she?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,927 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Should we all do that with bills owed to us ? What legal right has Eflow to do that,to increase a small charge into a 16k bill ?
    You mightn't like it but Isles completely legal.
    You ignore your bills and tell us in a few months how you're getting on!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    kbannon wrote: »
    You mightn't like it but Isles completely legal.
    You ignore your bills and tell us in a few months how you're getting on!

    We know, But an out of kilter internal fine is not a cost to them. Why I asked about legislation for stuff like this. I understand the legals could be a few K but it looks mostly like internal fines. Something like €100 turning into 16k is mental. Not defending the chap.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,927 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    We know, But an out of kilter internal fine is not a cost to them. Why I asked about legislation for stuff like this. I understand the legals could be a few K but it looks mostly like internal fines. Something like €100 turning into 16k is mental. Not defending the chap.
    It is mental but he knew it was looking bad by the volume of letters he would have received. He buried his head in the sand though, which never works.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    I fought the law, and the law won.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,135 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    My point is can I do this with bills I issue ? Why can they do it ?
    It's easy to say
    '' the second letter we sent you cost us 5700.00 euro to send, ''
    We all know it's bull but they do it ,


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