Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

On that day he was and yet Conor's power knocked him on his ass.



McGregor is not knocking Aldo out cold and making a joke of Alvarez just because he had the benefit of some boxing experience in his youth (it helps, sure) but the main reason they can't go toe to toe with him is because of power and his precision.



You say what I am saying is rubbish, but yet you don't even address the points I made. GLOVE SIZE is crucial to points I am making.

Again: Mayweather relies on the size of the boxing gloves to be able to effectively deflect punches with that shoulder roll. If he tries that wearing MMA gloves, it will most likely catch the top of his head. The rest of his defense would be negated also by smaller gloves. You folks are seriously underestimating how much the size of boxer gloves would effect the outcome of this fight given how much Mayweather relies on them. He'd be wide open and sure that works both ways and Floyd would be somewhat quick again too but Floyd is not a power hitter, Conor is.

Let me ask you (or anyone) this. Lets say (for argument's sake) they fight went ahead with mma gloves and Mayweather gets hit with the same punch that Aldo did, what would that do to Floyd? Not saying he would land such a shot nor that Floyd would let it happen... but if it did, how do you think Floyd would take a punch like that and how much damage would it do?



Absolutely and that's mentioned by some of the lads that were in the gym that day when he sparred with VanHeerden (who's a welterweight lets not forget also):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL2aJ7q1Jcg

I think you are making a different argument though Pete, we are talking about boxing, and a matchup with Floyd will undoubtedly take place with 14oz gloves. There is zero chance of Floyd competing with MMA gloves. His hands are completely brittle as it is, and obviously he's in much greater danger against Conor with those gloves.

But I'm pretty sure people are arguing about boxing rules. Of course if it were to happen with 4oz gloves it would give Conor a better chance.

Gintonious wrote: »

Look at this.

Seen it a couple of years ago, commented on it I think too and the 'Offensive Skills' one also, which is better.

Look, I am talking about Floyd's defense when it comes to precision and speed shots at his head from guys likely to hit him, the kind of shots Conor would throw when he's fighting rather than sparring. Most of those guys in the video fighting Floyd are nobodies, lets be honest. I know they have "credentials" but this is not a golden era of boxing or anything like it. Fat guys punching him in the arm and other shots so bad Mayweather didn't even have to move out of the way. I know, I know.. Mayweather is soooo good he makes them all look like amateurs. Yeah, sure. Even those wll respected in boxing circles question Mayweather's ability to call himself the goat in this era.

Conor would hurt Mayweather if he landed some shots on him and that is not as big an if as many of you believe it to be. He's has the height in him also. MMA gloves and the fight would be just that, a fight.

Have a good weekend.

Saipanne wrote: »

It's truly bizarre that people think he can win. I mean, sure, he might get a lucky sucker punch or something. But that's the very best chance he has. If that's your argument, then fine, I understand that. But the idea that he will outbox Mayweather is ludicrous. Mad.

Surely to god its just "person", not even McGregor can think he might win.

Gamebred wrote: »

In fairness to McGregor he is the ultimate competitor I'd say he 100% believes he can ko Floyd.

I really do admire his confidence, but there is a difference between confidence and delusion and he'd come to realise that very quickly if he fought Mayweather.

I'd still like to see it though, the hypocrite I am. :pac:

ardinn wrote: »

I think he can win based on him getting one solid left to connect - He will never outbox him but the hope for me is he can rattle his chin once and maybe that will provide the momentum to finish.

Even if he loses, if he can connect and get him into trouble even a little, It will have been a great success!

That's the thing, going a distance is a success not being humiliated is a success.....any sort of humiliation of Mayweather ie getting him in trouble is a success .........but some won't have it, no doubt the same people who continually write him off no matter who the opponent they had him him to lose against Diaz against Alvarez and eventually when he fights Khabib

when was the last time Mayweather knocked anyone out btw

Saipanne wrote: »

It's like when Homer tried to imagine beating Tyson. Only a heart attack could be imagined.

McGregor couldn't even beat Secretariat ffs.

I'm fairly certain it's the same as it was before, a negotiation tactic. People are getting too hung up whether he's serious or not but I don't think he's too bothered about jumping into boxing, I mean it's a sinking ship at this stage.

I think he's just a bit bored with his time off and wants to show WME-IMG not to take him for granted, he's clearly peeved they haven't reached out to him yet, which is fair enough. He's carried the promotion on his shoulders this past year and for much of 2015 too. I just would prefer if he used a different channel such as the as the MMAAA instead of this sh*t.

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Conor is a brown Belt in BJJ.

Do you think he has a hope in hell in a sub only BBJ match against any of the brown belts from Marcelo Garcia's Dream Team or John Danaher's Death Squad?

Danis, Munch, Garry, Gordon as brown belts. Not a hope.

Any brown belt from Marcelo's or Renzos. Probably none of the professional. Maybe a hobbyist.

License in California means pretty much zero in regards to fighting Mayweather, he won't be fighting outside Nevada for a start.

For anything else regarding them, if they ever do fight in a boxing match it will be 100% all Floyds way or nothing in terms of the rules/conditions, that includes the gloves of course.

The fight itself would be a total mismatch, as anybody rational knows. Conor would have a punchers chance, nothing more. Even at that I don't see him troubling Mayweather if he caught him flush. That right from Mosely that Floyd came through removed any doubt I had regarding his chin. I absolutely despise Floyd Mayweather, I never want to see him fight again so for that reason alone I hope this never happens, but the opportunity it would provide to give some perspective to some of the over zealous McGregor fans makes the exhibition bout slightly more agreeable, but only very slightly tbh.

There is nothing to prove here, it would clearly be for the money, both men are all about the money. Conor has nothing to lose, nobody expects him to win and he will make a bucket load of cash, good luck to him. He knows he doesn't risk much fighting a guy like Mayweather either who is unlikely to do him any serious physical damage and he is adept at pulling the wool over peoples eyes with bravado, much like Mayweather in fact, the getting a boxing license in California being a prime example of it. Him talking about someone needing to take the belt for him to be stripped, or claiming the fact that he still has the belt at home holds any relevance to whether he has been removed as champ being another one. Christ, just watching that fan thing, that he is claiming not to know who PM is does him no favours either way you want to cut it either, tells you most of what you need to know about his knowledge/chances against any decent professional boxer under rules tbh

With him taking time off and Mayweather being completely irrelevant these days I expect to hear more about this unfortunately over the next 6 months but I would highly doubt anything will come of it other then posturing, keeping themselves in the public eye and both men pointing the finger at the other in regards to not really wanting the fight. Floyd holds all the cards anyway which means it would be a painfully drawn out negotiation ending in Conor agreeing to give him everything he wants or Floyd not playing, for a damp squib of an exhibition that is unlikely to go beyond 4 rounds with Floyd stopping him.

Here I did it for you!

Step 1 would be for Conor McGregor to attain a boxing license, preferably in New York or California.

Step 2 would be for Mayweather and McGregor to book a match against each other. Again it was suggested that New York or California would be the preferable location.

As soon as it was announced that Mayweather vs McGregor was booked the UFC would likely file an injunction, claiming a breach of contract, with a court in Nevada. As all UFC contracts stipulate that all such disputes are to be settled in Nevada this is pretty much a given. But before they can do that it's recommended that McGregor move on to

Step 3, and immediately file for declaratory relief against the UFC citing the Muhammad Ali Reform Boxing Act's provision against coercive contracts to make the claim that the restrictive provision in the UFC's contract is restraining McGregor from boxing, and that he is a licensed boxer under an applicable boxing commission falling under the jurisdiction of the ABC.

This might sound absurd, but remember as a licensed boxer McGregor would now (theoretically) be covered by the Ali Act. Sec. 10 of the Act offers protection from coercive provisions, and a provision that prevents someone from boxing at all could possibly be interpreted as a restraint of trade. This is reinforced by the fact that the promoter has a provision in their own contracts claiming exclusive rights over any "mixed martial art, martial art, boxing, professional wrestling, or any other fighting competition or exhibition" the fighter engages in. This would seem to make the UFC a promoter of all combat sports, including boxing. In which case, the contract would be illegal (or at least illegal in part) under existing Federal law.

And here is the full link! Im not saying this is whats happening - but, it all adds up!!

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/5/13/11669764/conor-mcgregor-vs-floyd-mayweather-without-ufc-permission

ardinn wrote: »

There is a link a few pages back detailing EXACTLY why he needed a licence in either cali or new york - Its the start of a 3 step process to get out of his contract with the UFC. I suggest you read it - it was written about 6 months ago (ish)

Why would I need to read it?

Why would he want to, or need to get out of his UFC contract to have a fight with Mayweather?

Edit: Mellor, I am aware of the possibility of using the Ali Act due to getting a boxing license. I think he would need to go to court for that also though to first wouldn't he?

Again I would come back to, why would he want to or need to get out of his contract with the UFC to have a boxing match though? They would be more then happy to take a slice of the pie surely.

Biggest stumbling block would be the tv networks I would imagine.