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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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  • #1772
    0byme75341jo28
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,571 ✭✭✭0byme75341jo28


    Brussels Sprout wrote: »
    Regardless of all these various stories coming out this thing isn't official until McGregor has his say. He wasn't too happy about Cage Warriors taking their belts back when he signed for the UFC so I can't see him giving this one up easily either. I expect yet more drama in this story.

    Are you serious?

    The belt is nothing more than an ornament, they're all the same. Every champion gets to keep the belt they win, and any ones gained from subsequent title defenses.


  • #1773
    Killergreene
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 431 ✭✭Killergreene


    What was the story with how cage warrior belts lads. Someone from cage warriors stole them from him after he signed to ufc? What was the full story.


  • #1774
    PhilipsR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 723 ✭✭✭PhilipsR


    Killergreene wrote: »
    If he loses to khabib he'll be back to the fw division with his tail between his legs begging Jose for a shot

    Do people even believe this crap?

    If McGregor decides he wants to fight for the FW belt again, he'll be given it instantly and Aldo will be more than happy to fight it. McGregor is the money draw, everyone wants to fight him.


  • #1775
    sonofenoch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Nothing to stop McGregor turning up to future fight pressers and plonking 2 belts on the table in front of him......Jones carried his old belt out for a faceoff with Cormier ........it's not very pc but then neither is McGregor, would be another attention grabber to add to the list


  • #1776
    Lukker-
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    So they made it an interim belt fight so they could keep 206 as a PPV?

    At least they are consistent, money is the only deciding factor in their decisions.

    McGregor must have a good few fights left on his contact otherwise I don't think it's wise for them to go out of their way to piss him off.


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  • #1777
    TimRiggins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭TimRiggins


    mdwexford wrote: »
    After beating Holloway, Mendes and Aldo in the way he did it is hard to make a case for any 145 guy having much for him though.

    He would be a short price fav vs any other featherweight.

    That doesn't mean he cleaned out the division. Cleaning out your division is what DJ has done, beating most top contenders twice where there really is nobody to face anymore. Conor would have to fight Edgar, Holloway again, Mendes on a full camp and whatever other contender comes up to clean it out.

    He'll be a short price favourite but that doesn't mean he cleaned it out. See DJ again.
    Bunny Colvin wrote: »
    The only real candidate that he didn't beat was Edgar. Saying he 'cleaned it out' might glamorise it a little but he went through it quickly and pretty much swept aside everyone. Apart from eating a few elbows from Mendes, was he ever in danger throughout the 145 run?

    Still doesn't mean he cleaned it out. I'm not taking away from his accomplishments but to say he cleaned out the division is completely false and is one of the stupidest arguments in MMA atm. Anybody who thinks so seriously needs to take off their McGregor tinted glasses.


  • #1778
    Lukker-
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    PhilipsR wrote: »
    Killergreene wrote: »
    If he loses to khabib he'll be back to the fw division with his tail between his legs begging Jose for a shot

    Do people even believe this crap?

    If McGregor decides he wants to fight for the FW belt again, he'll be given it instantly and Aldo will be more than happy to fight it. McGregor is the money draw, everyone wants to fight him.
    He'll definitely do that. He will also refer to himself as the double champ as much as possible.


  • #1779
    mdwexford
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,293 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    TimRiggins wrote: »
    That doesn't mean he cleaned out the division. Cleaning out your division is what DJ has done, beating most top contenders twice where there really is nobody to face anymore. Conor would have to fight Edgar, Holloway again, Mendes on a full camp and whatever other contender comes up to clean it out.

    He'll be a short price favourite but that doesn't mean he cleaned it out. See DJ again.



    Still doesn't mean he cleaned it out. I'm not taking away from his accomplishments but to say he cleaned out the division is completely false and is one of the stupidest arguments in MMA atm. Anybody who thinks so seriously needs to take off their McGregor tinted glasses.

    I never said he did clean it out.

    My point is he did enough to prove he was the best guy in the division.

    I'd don't see the merit in beating guys multiple times who have lost decisively if you are willing to move up.


  • #1780
    TimRiggins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭TimRiggins


    mdwexford wrote: »
    I never said he did clean it out.

    My point is he did enough to prove he was the best guy in the division.

    I'd don't see the merit in beating guys multiple times who have lost decisively if you are willing to move up.

    Of course he proved he was the best guy in the division. And I agree, there isn't alot merit, especially compared to what he's already accomplished at Lightweight. All i'm saying is that he has nowhere near 'cleaned out' the division.


  • #1781
    Bunny Colvin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭Bunny Colvin


    TimRiggins wrote: »
    Still doesn't mean he cleaned it out. I'm not taking away from his accomplishments but to say he cleaned out the division is completely false and is one of the stupidest arguments in MMA atm. Anybody who thinks so seriously needs to take off their McGregor tinted glasses.

    Your issue just seems to to be the phrase 'cleaned out' - a phrase isn't an argument!

    Some might call his run 'cleaning out the featherweight division' others might say it was simply a good run of wins. Whatever, it doesn't really matter nor is it the 'one of the stupidest argument in mma'.


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  • #1782
    TimRiggins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭TimRiggins


    Bunny Colvin wrote: »
    Your issue just seems to to be the phrase 'cleaned out' - a phrase isn't an argument!

    Some might call his run 'cleaning out the featherweight division' others might say it was simply a good run of wins. Whatever, it doesn't really matter nor is it the 'one of the stupidest argument in mma'.

    Whats the argument? That there isn't any fights for him at FW anymore or any worthy contenders? There is loads! If you watch and follow MMA you'll know there is a huge difference between a good run of wins and cleaning out the division. Mighty Mouse cleaned out his division. Jon Jones came very close. McGregor has not.


  • #1783
    Bunny Colvin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭Bunny Colvin


    TimRiggins wrote: »
    Whats the argument? That there isn't any fights for him at FW anymore or any worthy contenders? There is loads! If you watch and follow MMA you'll know there is a huge difference between a good run of wins and cleaning out the division. Mighty Mouse cleaned out his division. Jon Jones came very close. McGregor has not.

    Can we just drop the phrase 'cleaned out' then. I used that in saying that's what the history book will show and then I said that description might glamorise it a little. I fully retract it now though!

    Conor done a hell of a job to cut through that division. Not just going to decisions but basically dismantling pretty much anyone that was put in front of him - including a champion that was undefeated in the UFC. I'll leave it at that.


  • #1784
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Interesting Jones is mentioned, would people agree he has cleared 205 out? I see him in the same position as Conor really where Conor never fought Edgar, Jones never fought Rumble.


  • #1785
    TimRiggins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭TimRiggins


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Interesting Jones is mentioned, would people agree he has cleared 205 out? I see him in the same position as Conor really where Conor never fought Edgar, Jones never fought Rumble.

    Thats why I said he came close. If he beat Rumble and maybe DC in a rematch he would have. Conor still has far more to do at FW than Jones at LHW.

    It's crazy the people Jones beat when he first became champ too. Shogun, Machida, TRT Vitor, Rashad.


  • #1786
    TimRiggins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭TimRiggins


    Bunny Colvin wrote: »
    Can we just drop the phrase 'cleaned out' then. I used that in saying that's what the history book will show and then I said that description might glamorise it a little. I fully retract it now though!

    Conor done a hell of a job to cut through that division. Not just going to decisions but basically dismantling pretty much anyone that was put in front of him - including a champion that was undefeated in the UFC. I'll leave it at that.

    I'm not having a go, but saying McGregor did it is a slap in the face to those who actually have. I'm happy he didn't. Much prefer him to go up to LW and capture the belt there. A better achievement imo.


  • #1787
    Bunny Colvin
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    TimRiggins wrote: »
    I'm not having a go, but saying McGregor did it is a slap in the face to those who actually have. I'm happy he didn't. Much prefer him to go up to LW and capture the belt there. A better achievement imo.

    I hear ya, 'cleaning out' probably does mean beating all top contenders and defending against them. Tell you what though, the way he took Alvarez apart will go down in the history books - it was a sight to see. Really looking forward to seeing how he fairs at 155.


  • #1788
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Holloways best win is against a journeyman ins stephens no need for a rematch now with Conor, Mendes on a full camp is irrelevant because hes a proven steroid cheat, the only one you can seriously use as an arguement for him not clearing it out is Edgar who for his own health is best off not fighting McGregor.


  • #1789
    Outlaw Pete
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    Killergreene wrote: »
    What was the story with how cage warrior belts lads. Someone from cage warriors stole them from him after he signed to ufc? What was the full story.

    From what I remember Conor was asked to bring the belts to the gym for a photo shoot (which was to raise awareness of depression and suicide in young men I think) and after the shoot some people from Cage Warriors took the belts away (by mistake maybe) and then John got them back eventually and presented them to Conor as a birthday gift. In Vegas I think.


  • #1790
    TimRiggins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭TimRiggins


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Holloways best win is against a journeyman ins stephens no need for a rematch now with Conor, Mendes on a full camp is irrelevant because hes a proven steroid cheat, the only one you can seriously use as an arguement for him not clearing it out is Edgar who for his own health is best off not fighting McGregor.

    Holloway has beaten Cub, Lamas and Stephens and is on a 8 fight win streak, could be 9 if he beats Pettis. He's a different fighter since they last fought. Are you seriously saying he doesn't deserve a shot at the title? Aldo also probably deserves a rematch seeing as he was the Champion for 6+ years. Then you have Edgar, Possibly Pettis if he gets a few more wins and then after he has those beat there'll probably be other contenders that have come up.


  • #1791
    finglashoop
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    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    From what I remember Conor was asked to bring the belts to the gym for a photo shoot (which was to raise awareness of depression and suicide in young men I think) and after the shoot some people from Cage Warriors took the belts away (by mistake maybe) and then John got them back eventually and presented them to Conor as a birthday gift. In Vegas I think.

    Did kavanagh not say on mma hour he had both made?


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  • #1792
    Gamebred
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    TimRiggins wrote: »
    Holloway has beaten Cub, Lamas and Stephens and is on a 8 fight win streak, could be 9 if he beats Pettis. He's a different fighter since they last fought. Are you seriously saying he doesn't deserve a shot at the title? Aldo also probably deserves a rematch seeing as he was the Champion for 6+ years. Then you have Edgar, Possibly Pettis if he gets a few more wins and then after he has those beat there'll probably be other contenders that have come up.


    Holloway has improved a bundle of course and he shouldnt even have to fight Pettis only for Aldo being a crying bitch on about retiring he would be fighting him around now for the belt, Lamas is a bum ko'd dead by Mendes Cub is about 40 shot to pieces all journeymen its not even debatable.


  • #1793
    TimRiggins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭TimRiggins


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Holloway has improved a bundle of course and he shouldnt even have to fight Pettis only for Aldo being a crying bitch on about retiring he would be fighting him around now for the belt, Lamas is a bum ko'd dead by Mendes Cub is about 40 shot to pieces all journeymen its not even debatable.

    Okay. Chad has also KOed alot of Featherweights and Cub was 31 when they fought but whatever you say :rolleyes:


  • #1794
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    TimRiggins wrote: »
    Okay. Chad has also KOed alot of Featherweights and Cub was 31 when they fought but whatever you say :rolleyes:


    Look if you dont think Stephens and Cub are journeyman fair enough I cant make you change your mind I wont argue about it, they are top 5-10 guys a win over them is no reason to claim an immediate fight with Conor as you seem to be implying.


  • #1795
    TimRiggins
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    Gamebred wrote: »
    Look if you dont think Stephens and Cub are journeyman fair enough I cant make you change your mind I wont argue about it, they are top 5-10 guys a win over them is no reason to claim an immediate fight with Conor as you seem to be implying.

    If Conor was still the FW Champion Holloway would deserve another shot at him because he's earned another shot at the title. I'm saying Conor hasn't cleaned out the division which he clearly hasn't. I have no interest in discussing if two of the top 10 Featherweight MMA fighters in the world are 'journeymen' with you.


  • #1796
    Gamebred
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    TimRiggins wrote: »
    If Conor was still the FW Champion Holloway would deserve another shot at him because he's earned another shot at the title. I'm saying Conor hasn't cleaned out the division which he clearly hasn't. I have no interest in discussing if two of the top 10 Featherweight MMA fighters in the world are 'journeymen' with you.

    No he hasnt, Aldo deserves a rematch in that the division by virtue of being the champ since the division was born, Holloway has absolutely no right to one, he beats Aldo he will merit one.


  • #1797
    TimRiggins
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    Gamebred wrote: »
    No he hasnt, Aldo deserves a rematch in that the division by virtue of being the champ since the division was born, Holloway has absolutely no right to one, he beats Aldo he will merit one.

    You just said about 3 posts ago that he shouldn't have to fight Pettis! I'm done! If you don't think Holloway who has 9 wins in a row deserves a title shot we're clearly not going to agree on this.


  • #1798
    Depp
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    Faugheen wrote: »
    To people saying the FW title fights will go on Fight Night cards again, I don't think so.

    McGregor brought a lot of exposure to the guys in that division. People will tune in and hope whoever wins between Max and Pettis beats Aldo. Max, Frankie and Aldo have huge exposure now.

    The fact they've stripped him will grab headlines, people will be interested to see how this fight goes and the subsequent fight with Aldo. It's a good move from the UFC, because to be fair, there was less value in having Conor not defending it than not having Conor in the division at all.

    true, max pettis might do well, winner of that v aldo then again maybe but after that the casual fans will lose interest then and the 145 belt fades back into obscurity from whence it came, people will still watch, same as they did before mcgregor, but aldo isn't going to pull in casual fans.

    with the new ownership 4b in the hole they cant afford sub 300k ppvs so it will be back to fox for the division.

    RDA is an interesting example, booked for whats trending to be one of the biggest ppvs of all time, pulls out, then the 155 title fight without mcgregor in the picture is refixed for a thursday night on fox, which if I remember correctly did average numbers at best.

    Just think its a silly move from the ufc to do this to their biggest draw who, by all accounts could pack it in in the morning and be sorted financially for life. Have a feeling theres a few of the ufc top brass praying rousey can pull it off against nunes at the minute!


  • #1799
    Gamebred
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    TimRiggins wrote: »
    You just said about 3 fights ago that he shouldn't have to fight Pettis! I'm done! If you don't think Holloway who has 9 wins in a row deserves a title shot we're clearly not going to agree on this.


    I said he should be fighting Aldo for the belt, If Conor was still champion Aldo is clearly the number 1 contender why would Holloway get to jump the que ahead of Jose? Mind boggling.


  • #1800
    TimRiggins
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    Gamebred wrote: »
    I said he should be fighting Aldo for the belt, If Conor was still champion Aldo is clearly the number 1 contender why would Holloway get to jump the que ahead of Jose? Mind boggling.

    Oh jesus. You can't see my original point about cleaning out the division. I never said he deserved it over Aldo. I'm done.


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    ardinn
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