Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

sonofenoch

If Aldo had any substance to him he'd still have fought fking someone for that belt, anyone!

how do you accept a belt after losing it in 13 secs :cool:

ASOT

Mellor wrote: »

When Mendes stepped in, there was already a FW title booked for the spot, and the champ was now gonna be out for 6 months.
This is nothing like that imo.

Most numbered events have title fights, but it's not a rule that it needs it to be PPV. Whether they made it an interim title or not, the card is the same. So I wonder does it actually affect the buys?

Champs have been injured before for 6 month periods and never needed an interim belt; its becoming a new thing now because title fights must increase ppv buys. More people will tune in to see pettis/max for an interim belt than without one would be the thinking id imagine; same thing when jones fought osp for an interim belt. It seems to be the way things are going lately anyway that a belt needs to be on the line regardless.

Mellor

sonofenoch wrote: »

If Aldo had any substance to him he'd still have fought fking someone for that belt, anyone!

how do you accept a belt after losing it in 13 secs :cool:

He fought Frankie for that belt at UFC200, 7 months after he got knocked out

callaway92

The FW division will be back to nobody giving a fck about it and doing Fight Nogjt main events now for the belt instead of PPV events once UFC 206 is out of the way.

It doesn't matter how exciting the top guys in the division are, but without McGregor it's nothing.

Mellor

ASOT wrote: »

Champs have been injured before for 6 month periods and never needed an interim belt; its becoming a new thing now because title fights must increase ppv buys. More people will tune in to see pettis/max for an interim belt than without one would be the thinking id imagine; same thing when jones fought osp for an interim belt. It seems to be the way things are going lately anyway that a belt needs to be on the line regardless.

Jones v OSP was originally jones v DC for the belt.
Same when Hunt replace Cain, or GSP pulled out verses Diaz.
In all those spots the interim was due to the champ pulling out injured. Its happened a lot over the years, and makes logical sense.

In this case, we have a title now that wasn't a title fight last week. The champ was never involved. Even if some were handed out in shakey spits in the past, this is a new level.

I'm get that they think that the belt will sell more PPVs. Maybe it will. But theres no way to really know. 145 is certainly more popular now than it ever was in the past

Killergreene

callaway92 wrote: »

The FW division will be back to nobody giving a fck about it and doing Fight Nogjt main events now for the belt instead of PPV events once UFC 206 is out of the way.

It doesn't matter how exciting the top guys in the division are, but without McGregor it's nothing.

Fw division title fights were never on fight nightcards. I guess you jumped on the UFC train in 2014 though so I assume you never knew that. Must be a shock to find out the sport existed just fine before you arrived to start watching.

EagererBeaver

sonofenoch wrote: »

If Aldo had any substance to him he'd still have fought fking someone for that belt, anyone!

how do you accept a belt after losing it in 13 secs :cool:

He did. He fought Frankie for it at 200. That's the whole point of an interim title...

Edit: I see Mellor beat me to it.

callaway92

Killergreene wrote: »

Fw division title fights were never on fight nightcards. I guess you jumped on the UFC train in 2014 though so I assume you never knew that. Must be a shock to find out the sport existed just fine before you arrived to start watching.

Nah buddy, watching since about 2004 full time. Had a faint interest for years before that.

Classy post though.

Mine was more tongue-in-cheek.

mdwexford

I presume this has been discussed with Conor and he's happy enough. Whether he's been given a lump sum to keep him happy or promised a title shot instantly if he ever wants to move down again I'd be surprised if this was done without his ok.

If not he could just tell them to take the LW title as well and shove it all up their arse. Then the new owners are in deep ****e. Especially when it's all just to create a nothing interim fight that won't make the company much extra money anyway.

Even Aldo must feel like a knob being handed an "upgraded belt". Although he was so bitter he's probably glad he can have a hollow victory here and pretend he's still the best 145 in the world.

winston82

mdwexford wrote: »

I presume this has been discussed with Conor and he's happy enough. Whether he's been given a lump sum to keep him happy or promised a title shot instantly if he ever wants to move down again I'd be surprised if this was done without his ok.

If not he could just tell them to take the LW title as well and shove it all up their arse. Then the new owners are in deep ****e. Especially when it's all just to create a nothing interim fight that won't make the company much extra money anyway.

Even Aldo must feel like a knob being handed an "upgraded belt". Although he was so bitter he's probably glad he can have a hollow victory here and pretend he's still the best 145 in the world.

Mcgregor never gave him the opportunity at retribution to fight again against him. If anyone should feel like a nob it's Mcgregor.

Gamebred

I think he cares more about his financial security than doing Aldo a favour in fairness doesnt owe anybody a thing in mma, fans fighters or the ufc.

winston82

Gamebred wrote: »

I think he cares more about his financial security than doing Aldo a favour in fairness doesnt owe anybody a thing in mma, fans fighters or the ufc.

You think?

Swashbuckler

winston82 wrote: »

You think?

Do you not?

mdwexford

winston82 wrote: »

Mcgregor never gave him the opportunity at retribution to fight again against him. If anyone should feel like a nob it's Mcgregor.

See you have you McGregor hatred googles on so you don't see things objectively.

Conor had bigger fish to fry. Going after a higher weight title and bigger money fights is much more important than giving a rematch to a guy that got ended in 13 seconds.

Not to mention the fact Aldo has only been entitled to that rematch since July. Four months ago. Conor has had three fights since Aldo, Jose has had one.

If the UFC wanted that fight from a business perspective, it would have happened. Pretty much nobody wants to see him fight Aldo again after all the build up and pull out and then somewhat anti climax of the actual fight.

Killergreene

Helwani said McGregor was not ok with what happened yesterday and hadn't agreed to relinquish

winston82

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Do you not?

I've never met the Mcgregor to know what he is thinking. Historically, you win a belt, you defend the belt.

Aldo shouldn't feel like a knob, Mcgregor should.

moneyman

winston82 wrote: »

I've never met the Mcgregor to know what he is thinking. Historically, you win a belt, you defend the belt.

Aldo shouldn't feel like a knob, Mcgregor should.

You are absolutely deluded. McGregor should feel like a knob? Get a grip FFS.

Dtp1979

winston82 wrote: »

I've never met the Mcgregor to know what he is thinking. Historically, you win a belt, you defend the belt.

Aldo shouldn't feel like a knob, Mcgregor should.

Also can enjoy the new belt all he wants. But it'll irk him that he's the champion but still not the best fw

Swashbuckler

winston82 wrote: »

I've never met the Mcgregor to know what he is thinking. Historically, you win a belt, you defend the belt.

Aldo shouldn't feel like a knob, Mcgregor should.

McGregor owes Aldo nothing. Aldo has his belt now so he has nothing to complain about.

winston82

moneyman wrote: »

You are absolutely deluded. McGregor should feel like a knob? Get a grip FFS.

Mcgregor has just been stripped of a belt for not defending it in over a year. The goat apparently. If people choose to believe it was to make 206 more appealing then go ahead.

mdwexford

winston82 wrote: »

Mcgregor has just been stripped of a belt for not defending it in over a year. The goat apparently. If people choose to believe it was to make 206 more appealing then go ahead.

Your posts are so embarrassing.

Still upset over the money Conor cost you eh.

Lurking in the wings to post twice a year, praying he loses, getting more and more angry every time he wins. Today must feel like Christmas morning for you. Good to see you get some enjoyment anyway.

I would have liked to see Conor defend the featherweight belt once but I do understand that he doesn't want to make that cut anymore but that means he isn't the greatest 145 out there anymore because he is no longer a 145er.

Bunny Colvin

It was inevitable. Conor was never getting back down to 145, why would he want to? It kills him.

The history books will show he cleaned out that division and won the lightweight title - while still holding the FW belt.

From Conor's perspective, there's nothing more to achieve at that weight - except the risk of tarnishing his legacy. 155 is where he will stay - unless he drops down again for a one off superfight down the line.

TimRiggins

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

It was inevitable. Conor was never getting back down to 145, why would he want to? It kills him.

The history books will show he cleaned out that division and won the lightweight title - while still holding the FW belt.

From Conor's perspective, there's nothing more to achieve at that weight - except the risk of tarnishing his legacy. 155 is where he will stay - unless he drops down again for a one off superfight down the line.

Can we please stop saying he cleaned out the division. Completely false.

winston82

TimRiggins wrote: »

Can we please stop saying he cleaned out the division. Completely false.

Bisping cleaned the division too

If Mcgregor said he cleaned out the whole division then that's that .

Killergreene

If he loses to khabib he'll be back to the fw division with his tail between his legs begging Jose for a shot

mdwexford

TimRiggins wrote: »

Can we please stop saying he cleaned out the division. Completely false.

After beating Holloway, Mendes and Aldo in the way he did it is hard to make a case for any 145 guy having much for him though.

He would be a short price fav vs any other featherweight.

Paully D

Say Rousey loses to Nunes, a distinct possibility, and McGregor is pissed and says he has had enough and decides to pack it in (or at least hold out for longer than anticipated as a result of this), where do the UFC go from then?

Just look at these figures below. Without the aformentioned, you're probably looking at an average of around 300,000 pay-per-views per event:

http://mmapayout.com/blue-book/pay-per-view/

Personally I don't think Conor was ever going to fight at 145lbs again but say he does, I highly doubt a fight at 145lbs is/was his next play regardless so I can understand the UFC stripping him (even though the way it has come about is ridiculous), but doing it while there's a distinct possibility that your only real back up in terms of PPV buys is gone in just over a month's time seems like a crazy move in the extreme.

Aldo v Holloway/Pettis doing 250,000 PPV's is hardly going to get your $4.2bn investment back.

Bunny Colvin

TimRiggins wrote: »

Can we please stop saying he cleaned out the division. Completely false.

The only real candidate that he didn't beat was Edgar. Saying he 'cleaned it out' might glamorise it a little but he went through it quickly and pretty much swept aside everyone. Apart from eating a few elbows from Mendes, was he ever in danger throughout the 145 run?

Brussels Sprout

Regardless of all these various stories coming out this thing isn't official until McGregor has his say. He wasn't too happy about Cage Warriors taking their belts back when he signed for the UFC so I can't see him giving this one up easily either. I expect yet more drama in this story.