Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 3 ***Updated Mod Note Post 1***

Deise Gael wrote: »

Noelie Connors was well below par up to and including the Munster final as was Kevin Moran yet Shane Fives' place was the only one mentioned in the back line as being under threat and he was made aware of it by management.

Up to and including the League final of 2015 Paudie Mahoney was the best free taker in the Country. Since his comeback from his horrific injury his standards have dipped slightly which is understandable given the amount of time he had to give to getting back to somewhat approaching full fitness not allowing him the same time to practice his free taking. He would be the first to agree that he would normally have nailed the one against Kilkenny and the two he missed against Thurles Sars for Ballygunner. I've no doubt that he will be back to his best come next season.

Grand so we should have either have had 15 new players or no changes after the Munster final. Mahony took a lot of frees before either of those games to be fair, can hardly blame McGrath for putting the best free taker in the country back on the frees then?

Deise Gael wrote: »

TBF, what does that mean?

The pressure on that free was unreal. Ask Ken McGrath, sort of thing that would hang over you.

Amazing that this all being brought up now that the season is over. Same sh*te last year, people questioning the Bennetts. Is it just a quiet time of year for lads or what's going on?

The blue blaa wrote: »

robopaddy2 wrote: »

amazing, how have we not got this guy in sooner? ..... Maybe the reason the people were silent is because they never actually heard of him

I am sorry but am i feeling a sense of Sarcasm here?
I gave ye information which i was told but i cant help but feel your having a pop at me here??
Am i wrong?

Sorry about the sarcasm, it was definitely not personal towards you. I guess I was just underwhelmed at the credentials of the new selector. Personally Ive never heard of him, so maybe its just my ignorance. I was expecting someone with a bit more profile, maybe someone who has been involved the underage intercounty scene or someone with a track record outside the county. I'm sure no one knows better than McGrath about what this guy can bring to it so lets see. don't think keeping Roanmore up senior should be a benchmark for being a senior selector though. They do have a good number of players who have played intercounty at various levels. There was definitely the nucleus of a decent side there.

mickmackmcgoo wrote: »

I don't see any problem with Philip Murphy being a selector. He isn't a household name for sure but does a good job with Roanmore. Ultimately McGrath is the decision maker and bringing in a big name former player or manager from outside the county might not be a good fit . Look at Davy and Donal Og in Clare as an example. It made no difference to Clare this year . It's always hard to see why managers pick certain selectors -look at Davy bringing Pauric Fanning in to Wexford set up . Now that is mind boggling!!

Bit harsh, Fanning has a lot of experience at coaching & selecting at county, club and colleges level. Davy going into a new county setup of course he's going to bring in someone he knows and respects with him. I see he's also brought Keith Rossiter into the setup, so he's not afraid to give young coaches a chance. I think Wexford will be a surprise package next year.

mickmackmcgoo wrote: »

I agree there is potential in Wexford and Rossiter was a great player and full of passion and will probably be an ideal fit as a selector there. As for being harsh on Fanning well everyone is entitled to their opinion,

Fair enough, In fairness you rarely hear of any selector who isn't described by someone as a spoofer, a fraud or a chancer these days. Everyone got their own agenda

I see The Nire match is Live on TG4 ;
(if someone else has already stated this on the platform, no need to be a plonker and come back and say so !).

tonc76 wrote: »

Deferred coverage on TG4

Its live, two games live and one deferred. That's why the match is starting at 3.30.

The blue blaa wrote: »

If the rumours doing the rounds are right then Philip Murphy from Roanmore is the new Waterford selector. Replacing Fintan O Connor.

A very underwhelming appointment. It's not like Roanmore have won anything in the last few years, farthest they have got is the quarter final stage. For a club that mostly plays in the A grade, there is nowt spectacular about that. They have played very similar tactics to what Waterford have been playing under McGrath so to me this says more of the same defensive tactics for Waterford next year.
An comfortable decision for McGrath to make as he has a selector on side with similar views to him and anyone hoping for the gameplan to evolve into a more attacking style next year, is going to be disappointed I'm afraid. Can see a lot of fans becoming very frustrated if we see more of that defensive game plan again next year.
Paul Flynn would have been a much better choice. Someone who likes to see the game played properly and who speaks a lot of sense. Someone who would have challenged McGrath. Someone who has experience of winning both as a player and as a selector. Look
at how the under 21 team played last year, with Flynn involved. Exactly the style Waterford need to adapt next year if we are to evolve into a serious team.
Offalys gain is Waterfords loss.

PTH2009 wrote: »

Wait til we play a game under this new selector before we judge

Those of us who regularly attend club games as much as we attend county games don't need to wait.

Stopitwillya wrote: »

A very underwhelming appointment. It's not like Roanmore have won anything in the last few years, farthest they have got is the quarter final stage. For a club that mostly plays in the A grade, there is nowt spectacular about that. They have played very similar tactics to what Waterford have been playing under McGrath so to me this says more of the same defensive tactics for Waterford next year.
An comfortable decision for McGrath to make as he has a selector on side with similar views to him and anyone hoping for the gameplan to evolve into a more attacking style next year, is going to be disappointed I'm afraid. Can see a lot of fans becoming very frustrated if we see more of that defensive game plan again next year.
Paul Flynn would have been a much better choice. Someone who likes to see the game played properly and who speaks a lot of sense. Someone who would have challenged McGrath. Someone who has experience of winning both as a player and as a selector. Look
at how the under 21 team played last year, with Flynn involved. Exactly the style Waterford need to adapt next year if we are to evolve into a serious team.
Offalys gain is Waterfords loss.

Re the Roanmore approach It's called cutting your cloth to measure, and its hardly a surprise that McGrath would choose a like minded selector, not much future in bringing in a selector that you will constantly be in conflict with, that would harldy be productive for moral etc.

Agree fully with you regarding the defensive approach and the need to evolve but that is surely an argument for 12 months time not now?

Paul Flynn was a fantastic player, imo the most naturally talented forward Waterford produced in my lifetime but that does not mean he would be an asset on the sideline and his CV is no better or worse than Murphy's if any part of the setup is being questioned it should surely be Dan Shanahan's input, glorified cheerleader and water carrier is what it looks like from the outside in, again was a great player but that is no qualification for a managerial role.