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Man your pumps, Wetherspoons are coming

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  • #2732
    oblivious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    Don't meet Beoir's definition of craft beer anyway ;)

    Or revenues


  • #2733
    maximum12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 666 ✭✭✭maximum12


    Went to spoons in Dublin for the first time recently.

    I'm sure I'll go back because of the decent beer but God it's such a frustrating experience to order.

    Even the smallest queue turns into a very long wait. Every transaction just seems to become incredibly complicated and take forever.

    Part of the problem seemed to be staff explaining rules and options to customers followed by customers thinking about their decision and consulting their party. This was compounded by the fact that weekend daytime food seems to be popular with non native English speaking families communicating with non native speaking staff.

    Would be a good idea if you could order food from a tablet at the table.


  • #2734
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,516 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Even "betting style" slips on the table with pencils for when you are ordering food would be good...
    One box to enter main meal, one box for sides, one box for "includes a drink", one box for additional drinks, one box for your table number...
    Fill in as many slips as you are ordering and pass to the person on the til.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #2735
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    oblivious wrote: »
    Or revenues

    Revenue only has a definition or micro though, not craft. As far as I remember anyway.


  • #2736
    Geuze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    JDW selling 5 of 9 pubs in NI, to a local pub chain.

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/news/jd-wetherspoon-sells-off-northern-ireland-pubs-in-3m-deal-to-mclaughlin-brothers-35207522.html


    I can't understand it, the Enniskillen pub was always busy when I was there.

    Same goes for the Ice Wharf in Derry.


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  • #2737
    irish_goat
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    Geuze wrote: »
    Same goes for the Ice Wharf in Derry.

    Don't understand it at all. I see people queuing up at 8am to get into the Ice Wharf for breakfast and it has a steady stream of people all day. It's right below a Travelodge, opposite a hostel and the nearest bar to the local 3rd level tech so it gets heaps of trade all day.

    The Diamond wouldn't have been as busy but still did decent trade.


  • #2738
    maximum12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 666 ✭✭✭maximum12


    It doesn't mean they are performing badly. It's likely a strategic decision. For example they may have decided their strategy is to focus on cities with population over 200k and airports.

    I don't know if that's the reason it's just an example of how a profitable pub could be off loaded. Although it's interesting they seem to be be investing in Belfast.


  • #2739
    Geuze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Over GBP 3m for 5 large pubs seems good value for the buyer.

    Say nearly 4m euro, 800k each.

    Seems cheap, compared to prices here for large urban pubs.


  • #2740
    schemingbohemia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,606 ✭✭✭schemingbohemia


    Had a couple of pints of Jaipur in the 40 Foot the other night - €2.75 a pint, very nice. Not a huge fan of the pub but was handy for a short visit.


  • #2741
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    schemingbohemia wrote: »
    Had a couple of pints of Jaipur in the 40 Foot the other night - €2.75 a pint, very nice. Not a huge fan of the pub but was handy for a short visit.

    Jesus they'd have to pull me out from under the pump.


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  • #2742
    maximum12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 666 ✭✭✭maximum12


    schemingbohemia wrote: »
    Had a couple of pints of Jaipur in the 40 Foot the other night - €2.75 a pint, very nice. Not a huge fan of the pub but was handy for a short visit.

    The Jaipur is great value. It's about 4 quid a bottle in the offie


  • #2743
    n97 mini
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    Abbey St has just been awarded PP.


  • #2744
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    n97 mini wrote: »
    Abbey St has just been awarded PP.

    I usually pop into the brewdock if I've time to kill in town.

    A new challenger emerges.


  • #2745
    n97 mini
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    I usually pop into the brewdock if I've time to kill in town.

    A new challenger emerges.

    Brewdock's proximity to Busarus and Connolly is great, but yes, half price pints up the road have a definite attraction.


  • #2746
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,788 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Brew Dock's burgers and onion rings will be hard to beat with microwaved 'spoons food; but there's no reason I can't go to *both* anyway.


  • #2747
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    L1011 wrote: »
    Brew Dock's burgers and onion rings will be hard to beat with microwaved 'spoons food; but there's no reason I can't go to *both* anyway.

    I've always found the food in GBB bars pretty terrible and over priced. I'd rather a curry from Spoons any day.


  • #2748
    MonkstownHoop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭MonkstownHoop


    The clientele that Abbey St could potentially attract will decide it for me, was in Piccadilly spoons on Friday afternoon and it was a grim place.


  • #2749
    cruhoortwunk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭cruhoortwunk


    MonkstownHoop wrote: »
    The clientele that Abbey St could potentially attract will decide it for me, was in Piccadilly spoons on Friday afternoon and it was a grim place.
    The bouncers will have their work cut out for them on Abbey St all right


  • #2750
    D Trent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭D Trent


    https://www.joe.ie/news/wetherspoons-get-the-all-clear-to-open-a-new-premises-in-waterford/568869


  • #2751
    loyatemu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,607 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    cruhoortwunk wrote: »
    The bouncers will have their work cut out for them on Abbey St all right

    there are loads of existing pubs around Abbey St, Talbot St, Amiens St etc, I don't think junkies are all that bothered about going into pubs.


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  • #2752
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,788 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The rougher pubs are/were (Mother Kellys being closed now) on Talbot Street - both on Store Street, the ones I've been to on Amiens Street and the ones on Abbey Street have all been fine, even without bouncers.


  • #2753
    cruhoortwunk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭cruhoortwunk


    L1011 wrote: »
    The rougher pubs are/were (Mother Kellys being closed now) on Talbot Street - both on Store Street, the ones I've been to on Amiens Street and the ones on Abbey Street have all been fine, even without bouncers.
    Cheaper prices will attract people from a few blocks away though, you can be guaranteed Mother Kellys former regulars will be over for a look


  • #2754
    RasTa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    They will be pissed off that they can't sit at the bar and getting served by an 18 year old.

    Prices won't be that cheap either unless they switch to cask.


  • #2755
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,788 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The beer selection may scare them away too


  • #2756
    RasTa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    L1011 wrote: »
    The beer selection may scare them away too

    They have everything now bar Guinness.

    Heni, Bud, Coors, Fosters, carlsberg and Bulmers in pint bottles


  • #2757
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,788 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    cruhoortwunk wrote: »
    Cheaper prices will attract people from a few blocks away though, you can be guaranteed Mother Kellys former regulars will be over for a look

    Where have they gone in the interim?

    The Master Mariner was rather rough from memory but its regulars don't prop up the bar in Brew Dock - although the prices will certainly help that.


  • #2758
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Every time a spoons has opened in Ireland the retort has been "it will attract the wrong crowd".

    It didn't in Blackrock, it didn't in Dun Laogharie, it didn't in Cork, it didn't in Swords and it didn't in Blanchardstown.


    So why would it in Dublin City Centre?


  • #2759
    n97 mini
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    It didn't in Blackrock, it didn't in Dun Laogharie, it didn't in Cork, it didn't in Swords and it didn't in Blanchardstown.

    Blanchardstown is more expensive than BL or DL. I wonder is there price-tuning going on to determine a threshold at which you won't get the "wrong" crowd. From my own experience a majority of clientele in Blanch seem to be East European.


  • #2760
    Reputable Rog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭Reputable Rog


    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    Every time a spoons has opened in Ireland the retort has been "it will attract the wrong crowd".

    It didn't in Blackrock, it didn't in Dun Laogharie, it didn't in Cork, it didn't in Swords and it didn't in Blanchardstown.


    So why would it in Dublin City Centre?

    Cork branch can have an interesting clientele from time to time.


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  • #2761
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,788 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    I suspect the "wrong crowd" in most areas are going to be anti-English, yet also anti-not-showing-Premiership, want pints of macro lagers they may not have and generally find the atmosphere far too odd for them. And will avoid like the plague as a result. Cork is special - sure, look how they greeted Lizzie :pac:

    In the UK (in general - there are exceptions) you get the quiet all day alcos but very little of the scum. The Lloyds #1 get those, obviously Tim Martin feels there's enough cash to be made from targeting them in some places


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