El Presidente Trump

20Cent · 11-11-2016 09:31AM

Pherekydes wrote: »

Trump may appoint Ben Carson as Secretary of Education.

Anti-science and anti-environment so far.

People think this isn't going to be bad? You're delusional.

Jamie Dimon or some other Goldman sachs person for treasury. No need for lobbyists anymore they are the government.

HellSquirrel · 11-11-2016 09:34AM

Pherekydes wrote: »

Trump may appoint Ben Carson as Secretary of Education.

Anti-science and anti-environment so far.

People think this isn't going to be bad? You're delusional.

Oh god. Yep, this is going to be bad.

BUT. http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about_p2/

I think this is one of the best articles I've read. Yes, it's cracked.com, a notoriously liberal site. But read it anyway, it's from a Republican point of view, someone who grew up in a deep red county of a blue state where the blue is the city.

I agree with a lot of the comments too. The Republicans were screwing them while paying lip service. The Democrats were screwing them rather more accidentally while their biggest supporters were deriding them. It was a **** you to the liberals that have had the attitude of "let them eat cake" and worried about everything and anything rather than them. Now, a lot of the things that liberals worried about are things that need worrying about. But the rural people were forgotten and any time they try to say "oy!", they're told to check their privilage or whatever. At the least, that's how it feels, apparently. And sure, racists and xenophobes voted for Trump, but a lot of people were yelling the stuff that would piss off the liberals in their ivory towers (or rather, their cities) as a "hey, you care so much about all this? You didn't give a damn about us, you hypocrites".

I'm as anti-Trump as anyone on this thread. I'm -extremely- anti-Trump. And I reckon Trump will screw them, just as he'll screw everyone else. But maybe that's part of the appeal too. If you can't vote for someone who will improve things for you, vote for someone who will **** the guys who are telling you to suck it up and eat cake too. Maybe they'll listen then.

Jelle1880 · 11-11-2016 09:36AM

FortySeven wrote: »

Bad for who?

People who believe in the separation of church and state and don't want religious nutjobs to push their beliefs on the education system.

Good to see Farage trying his best suck off The Donald, really wish he would **** off to the US.

The flying mouse · 11-11-2016 09:37AM

Irish People slagging of other countries politicians, Jaysus.

NI24 · 11-11-2016 09:40AM

HellSquirrel wrote: »

If you can't vote for someone who will improve things for you, vote for someone who will **** the guys who are telling you to suck it up and eat cake too.

This is pretty much the entire attitude of conservatives. Anything to "stick it to the liberals". Like guys in pickup trucks who roll coal. It's not beneficial for any reason whatsoever, and is actually a danger to other drivers, and if you ask them why they do it they'll tell you straight up that it's "to stick it to the liberals".

rafatoni · 11-11-2016 09:51AM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

People who believe in the separation of church and state and don't want religious nutjobs to push their beliefs on the education system.

Good to see Farage trying his best suck off The Donald, really wish he would **** off to the US.

You don't live in the US so why does it bother you so much?

do you be up in arms on what the are teaching in Iranian and Saudi schools? didnt think so.

Permabear · 11-11-2016 09:56AM

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Pherekydes · 11-11-2016 10:04AM

Trump may appoint Ben Carson as Secretary of Education.

Anti-science and anti-environment so far.

People think this isn't going to be bad? You're delusional.

muddypaws · 11-11-2016 10:05AM

The flying mouse wrote: »

And at least he is still going to welcome the shamrock next year, Where Enda can grovel and say he was talking about a different trump last year and he is more than welcome to visit his golf course in Sligo.

:eek: He's only been President Elect for a couple of days and he's already moved Doonbeg to Sligo, what can he do from January onwards?

Christy42 · 11-11-2016 10:05AM

Permabear wrote: »

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And yet has not retracted his statements. We have to deal with him like we have to deal with other horrible world leaders but I don't see a reason to deny what Trump said was morally wrong.

Permabear · 11-11-2016 10:09AM

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tigger123 · 11-11-2016 10:14AM

Don't know if it's been mentioned here, but did anyone notice Trump's body language in the press conference he did with Obama yesterday in the Oval office? Hunched over, protective, sitting forward in his chair, lack of confidence. I know it's totally subjective, but he did not look one bit comfortable. Looked kind of stunned by the whole thing.

jimgoose · 11-11-2016 10:15AM

tigger123 wrote: »

Don't know if it's been mentioned here, but did anyone notice Trump's body language in the press conference he did with Obama yesterday in the Oval office? Hunched over, protective, sitting forward in his chair, lack of confidence. I know it's totally subjective, but he did not look one bit comfortable. Looked kind of stunned by the whole thing.

I thought he looked a bit like a stunned fish, yes. I have a feeling no-one is thinking "What the actual fuck just happened??" as much as Mr. T. :pac:

Beechwoodspark · 11-11-2016 10:16AM

The old man looked spooked. "Uncharacteristically subdued".

jimgoose · 11-11-2016 10:18AM

jimgoose wrote: »

Arizona and Michigan haven't declared yet, but both are showing Trump ahead at 45.3/49.6% and 47.3/47.6% respectively.

Arizona has declared for Trump, with 11 Electoral College votes. Michigan still dawdling - it's tight, but Mr. T. is ahead by a nose.

gandalf · 11-11-2016 10:20AM

I don't think he believed he would win. Now he is bunched, he has to deliver on these promises. If the names being mentioned here are accurate then the US is in for a very rough ride and I especially would not want to be in a minority demographic. May we live in interesting times!

seenitall · 11-11-2016 10:22AM

tigger123 wrote: »

Don't know if it's been mentioned here, but did anyone notice Trump's body language in the press conference he did with Obama yesterday in the Oval office? Hunched over, protective, sitting forward in his chair, lack of confidence. I know it's totally subjective, but he did not look one bit comfortable. Looked kind of stunned by the whole thing.

Oh absolutely. He looked like a 5 year old in a cathedral. Completely overwhelmed, like siht just got real. You had to wonder if we wasn't going to do a Nigel Farage/Boris Johnson at some point soon.

And Melania looked as unhappy and uncomfortable as you could possibly be. She's no Michelle!

20Cent · 11-11-2016 10:22AM

Permabear wrote: »

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We are allowed comment on other countries still even though ours isn't perfect.
For the time being at least.

Jelle1880 · 11-11-2016 10:26AM

rafatoni wrote: »

You don't live in the US so why does it bother you so much?

do you be up in arms on what the are teaching in Iranian and Saudi schools? didnt think so.

I'm so suck of this non-argument. Just because you don't live somewhere doesn't mean you can't care.

First of all: I have relatives in the US, a lot of relatives actually. Most of them in Florida and Trump-voters, some of them who rely on a lot of medication on a daily basis that seem to have no idea how this will negatively affect them. So yes, I am worried for their future.

Secondly: The US is the most powerful country in the world, what they do can have consequences to the rest of the world. If they put a religious nutter in charge of their education system then that will set them back years, if not decades. And that will always have an impact on other countries.

Permabear · 11-11-2016 10:28AM

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Widdershins · 11-11-2016 10:29AM

rafatoni wrote: »

You don't live in the US so why does it bother you so much?

do you be up in arms on what the are teaching in Iranian and Saudi schools? didnt think so.

This is a really interesting question

humanji · 11-11-2016 10:32AM

Permabear wrote: »

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Surely you can be outraged at both?

seenitall · 11-11-2016 10:34AM

HellSquirrel wrote: »

Oh god. Yep, this is going to be bad.

BUT. http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about_p2/

I think this is one of the best articles I've read. Yes, it's cracked.com, a notoriously liberal site. But read it anyway, it's from a Republican point of view, someone who grew up in a deep red county of a blue state where the blue is the city.

I agree with a lot of the comments too. The Republicans were screwing them while paying lip service. The Democrats were screwing them rather more accidentally while their biggest supporters were deriding them. It was a **** you to the liberals that have had the attitude of "let them eat cake" and worried about everything and anything rather than them. Now, a lot of the things that liberals worried about are things that need worrying about. But the rural people were forgotten and any time they try to say "oy!", they're told to check their privilage or whatever. At the least, that's how it feels, apparently. And sure, racists and xenophobes voted for Trump, but a lot of people were yelling the stuff that would piss off the liberals in their ivory towers (or rather, their cities) as a "hey, you care so much about all this? You didn't give a damn about us, you hypocrites".

I'm as anti-Trump as anyone on this thread. I'm -extremely- anti-Trump. And I reckon Trump will screw them, just as he'll screw everyone else. But maybe that's part of the appeal too. If you can't vote for someone who will improve things for you, vote for someone who will **** the guys who are telling you to suck it up and eat cake too. Maybe they'll listen then.

Hey, are you me?

I should have written that post!

They voted for the option that will fcuk them up so thoroughly that a huge social instability will be the only possible sequence of events. But it's their choice.

A change is as good as a rest, an old adage that should have been well heeded by the Democrats pre-primaries.
And now it's too late.

The flying mouse · 11-11-2016 10:39AM

20Cent wrote: »

We are allowed comment on other countries still even though ours isn't perfect.
For the time being at least.

I am all for comments/opinions on everything, But some of the reactions as with bretix are way over the top,For a small insufficient country in world affairs we sure have a big mouth,and I think the coverage RTE gave it, like in the bush elections was way to biased.I don't live in Ireland and you didn't see the same coverage leading up to the elections as here.

Irelands people should be more concerned with there own household and getting that in order instead of coming out with gaffs like Enda and the rest did.

I have a friend home with me and she asked why are we so caught up in it all ?

20Cent · 11-11-2016 10:39AM

Permabear wrote: »

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We can have opinions about both you know.
Many people do.

Widdershins · 11-11-2016 10:40AM

gandalf wrote: »

So you are clueless then. The other posters whilst being "mean-spirited" have a point. Any person who believes the clock will be turned back and low education blue collar jobs will suddenly reappear because Trump waves a magic wand is deluded. They have a responsibility themselves to upskill themselves so they are relevant to the jobs that are available. Sometimes the real world is cruel. Do you want a hug now :rolleyes:

It's not me who is clueless. Until you come off your high horse and actually absorb what those people said, instead of making a judgement on them based on a stereotype, you won't understand why they voted for him. If you can't even understand that much you're getting ahead of yourself to demand to know what the next step is.

''They need to upskill''...that's presumptuous, dismissive, naive and a little bit arrogant. But continue to think you know where everyone went 'wrong' without even listening to what they said, and how they're the architect of their own problems, far be it for anyone to suggest they're entitled to choose a leader who takes a different view.

I'm not a PR person for Trump. It's not my job to map out his plan of action or cheerlead for him. I'm replying to the poster with the ''tough sh*t'' attitude and you arrived on to demand that I do so.
He's been elected less tan two days, clearly nobody can definitively say what he's going to be able to achieve, or even how sincere he is.

The flying mouse · 11-11-2016 10:43AM

As part of more new US investment in Ireland, The government has decided to rename what RTE stands for,

It now stands for Ronald Trump Enterprises, Were cute hours here , run with the sheep n chase with the hounds.ya boya

humanji · 11-11-2016 10:48AM

Permabear wrote: »

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But people are complaining about both. In large numbers. This is a thread about the US, so it's hardly surprising that people aren't going on and on about the Church in Ireland.

20Cent · 11-11-2016 10:49AM

Permabear wrote: »

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How do you know they are ignoring it at home?

There is a large movement to repeal the eighth and get religion out of schools.
Irish politicians don't have to boast about how holy they are to get nominated.
Taking the bible literally is very rare here much more common in the US.
Same sex marriage is not an issue anymore the US it is.

The US is going backwards Ireland forwards.

Permabear · 11-11-2016 10:50AM

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