El Presidente Trump

DukeOfTheSharp wrote: »

Here's the big secret to how he got elected: 49.2% of the population didn't vote. Clinton won the popular vote, but the electoral college - an establishment set up to stop this very event from happening - failed, mostly due to the fact that the states can be redistributed by whoever is in power...in this case it was the Republican party. On top of that, the people who wanted to vote Sanders lost the plot and decided Hillary was the worst, most corrupt person ever, because of emails that didn't matter in the end. The head of the FBI unlawfully released more emails a week before the election (a law states that this can't happen within 60 days of the election) and a number of black voter registrations were raided by Trump's running mate Pence, who used 'voter fraud' as a reason...one which was totally and completely false. While some of those were restored, there's still an issue of black voters being turned away despite having their cards. The media treated Trump like a serious candidate despite his damning opinions on hispanics, blacks and women, but that doesn't matter because the overall votes that won him the election were from white people, and there were large numbers of white women who voted for him too. Let that sink in. Mix that in with whiny voter-apathy and a total lack of education, along with Fox News propaganda and other media outlets failing to fact-check Trump, and you had a smorgasbord of impossible odd that Hillary was facing. Add to that that she's a woman, and America is still fiercely in the grip of all the -isms you can imagine, and you basically have a roadmap to how an unstable moldy tangerine managed to pull this off, despite a lack of qualifications.

Trump isn't anti-establishment; he's a failed businessman who made his wealth by declaring bankruptcy multiple times, putting thousands of working-class people out of work. He thrives from the establishment, and his only advantage was the KKK and white supremacist movement that backed him, with people literally standing outside of polling stations, armed with rifles to intimidate voters. He's the epitome of the toxic man, he appeals not to the angry 'forgotten' people of America, but to idiots, racists, sexists and xenophobes, who'd rather side with Putin's Russia than work to achieve a better country, which Obama was doing successfully.

For those who don't think it'll effect Ireland; he plans to abolish the J1 program for colleges, so Irish students will have even less of an ability to get employment and experience. But sure, they're only the youth, who cares about them? Not to mention the fact that when he lowers corporate tax, Irish-based companies will jump ship, as they always do, to a cheaper prospect.

End of the day, I still maintain that the enemies of progress are those in the 35 to old age voting demographic of any nation. Doesn't matter that baby boomers wrecked the economy, when they want things to regress, they'll mobilize in droves, while apathetic non-voters and third party 'protesters' will add to the issue. While I'm not saying all 35+ year olds are conservative nightmares, the fact is that if you are a liberal at that age, you're surrounded by the conservative sharks who see progression as chum. The issue now is that Americans have to be mindful of white voters and 'edgy' protesters who use the right to vote as a means of being rebellious, despite the effect their actions can have on everyone else. Much like Brexit, where people felt 'disenfranchised' and pissed away their votes, bad things can happen when you don't step up, due to selfish pride.

There's a lot of fear going around because Trump's conservative party consists of a VP who believes he can electroshock 'the gay' out of teens, the call for mass Muslim deportation and calling hispanics rapists, and black people 'thugs', and the fact that today, the KKK were literally walking around in full conehead garb. Women are being sexually assaulted by psychotics who feel empowered by Trump's presidency, taking to heart his 'grab her by the p*ssy' comments. Five trans teens, upon hearing the election outcome, died by suicide because they felt hopeless, given the bathroom bills all but assured to come into effect in the future. Trans-only suicide hotlines have been set up too. How messed up is that?

This makes me fear for Ireland's future, given how parties like the AAA are sitting in their smug sense of satisfaction, saying Bernie Sanders was the right choice (he's Jewish, he wouldn't have won) and lauding the benefits of socialism...despite the fact that Ireland voted in two parties they wanted deposed in two subsequent elections. We're being led by the least among us, and if we're going to be competitive and considered better than America (the bar is pretty low now) we need to take the one-two craphouse of Brexit and Trump as a warning here. I hope we do, I doubt we will, but today is a bad day for everyone.

midlandsmissus wrote: »

Hilary Clinton- the fifth person to win the popular vote but lose the Electoral vote, the last being Al Gore who won the popular vote , but lost the Electoral vote to George Bush.

I've been reading up about the Electoral vote. It is interesting. It was introduced to even out the field.

Hilary got more votes overall but she got them in a smaller amount of states with large populations e.g. California and New York.

More states voted for Trump.

I suppose this system was introduced because the larger populated states have always been generally pro one party, is that correct?

But more individuals voted for Hilary. What do people think of the system?

Infini2 wrote: »

Honestly I doubt he'll even last 4 years after all the crap that got him in. He's a throughbred arsehole through and through and not someone who's likely to last when push comes to shove.

To be honest I would seriously be surprised if someone doesn't assassinate him. He's gone out of his way to alienate as many people as possible and really open some really nasty wounds that make people do crazy stuff expecially if he starts going off on crazy ideas like his campaign might suggest.

Deleted User wrote: »

A hig story but not news.

And people complain about the electoral college when it doesn't suit.. The fact is she took 56 electoral votes from California, nearly a quarter of her total. In terms of the popular vote, California gave her like a tenth of her total.

NIMAN wrote: »

What is it with people who only accept democracy when its the result they want?

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

Mostly white, middle-class millennials who have been raised to think that the sun shines from their arse. Think Veruca Salt from the Willy Wonka movie.

Deleted User wrote: »

Such tripe. You blamed everything but her when she lost only because of her. No one else.

Blaming Sanders? Get a grip.

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

Clinton didn't do much wrong. She simply didn't do what was right to win this election.