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Louise O Neill on rape culture.

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  • #722
    jimgoose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,214 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Widdershins wrote: »
    I love men 'TM' ?

    "I'll probably go looting in Aldi this afternoon." -- Godfrey Elfwick :pac:


  • #723
    Mortpourvelo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 393 ✭✭Mortpourvelo


    Widdershins wrote: »
    I love men 'TM' ?

    Her book was actually sh**e btw.

    Waste of 9 quid that was.


  • #724
    Mortpourvelo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 393 ✭✭Mortpourvelo


    Connacht2KXX wrote: »
    She said in a recent video that criticising women for being interested in makeup is misogynistic.

    I am actually pleased that makes no sense!!

    She is one nut bar, really.


  • #725
    Advbrd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Advbrd


    I am a white male who happens to be straight and who happens to be reasonably well off. Sorry for having a reasonably good life.
    Why do I get the feeling that the longer I live, the more I am going to have to apologise for being a "White Cisgender Privileged Male".
    I'm getting a bit sick of all this nonsense to be honest.


  • #726
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Advbrd wrote: »
    I am a white male who happens to be straight and who happens to be reasonably well off. Sorry for having a reasonably good life.
    Why do I get the feeling that the longer I live, the more I am going to have to apologise for being a "White Cisgender Privileged Male".
    I'm getting a bit sick of all this nonsense to be honest.
    stay off social media and watch this problem dusappear


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  • #727
    Mortpourvelo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 393 ✭✭Mortpourvelo


    Advbrd wrote: »
    I am a white male who happens to be straight and who happens to be reasonably well off. Sorry for having a reasonably good life.
    Why do I get the feeling that the longer I live, the more I am going to have to apologise for being a "White Cisgender Privileged Male".
    I'm getting a bit sick of all this nonsense to be honest.

    I was accused of displaying "white hetero privilege" - we were discussing the benefit cap in the UK.

    I asked "how do you know I'm white and straight ?"

    Came the answer "it was obvious, only white cis-genders agree with taking money from the poor".

    I'm still none the wiser tbh!!


  • #728
    Advbrd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Advbrd


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    stay off social media and watch this problem dusappear


    It's creeping into real life.


  • #729
    jimgoose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,214 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Advbrd wrote: »
    I am a white male who happens to be straight and who happens to be reasonably well off. Sorry for having a reasonably good life.
    Why do I get the feeling that the longer I live, the more I am going to have to apologise for being a "White Cisgender Privileged Male".
    I'm getting a bit sick of all this nonsense to be honest.

    People like Ms. O'Neill are quite privileged as well. That's why they have the time and resources to spend most of their time on social meeja crying over being impoverished one-legged Ethiopian lesbians, in spirit.


  • #730
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Advbrd wrote: »
    It's creeping into real life.
    a swift "f*ck off" should deal with that


  • #731
    Advbrd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Advbrd


    Mortpourvelo wrote: »
    I was accused of displaying "white hetero privilege" - we were discussing the benefit cap in the UK.

    I asked "how do you know I'm white and straight ?"

    Came the answer "it was obvious, only white cis-genders agree with taking money from the poor".

    I'm still none the wiser tbh!!

    Yeah, only for me being white cisgendered, I would love to have more of my privileged life whittled away to support my fellow underprivileged man. I think it's time I took my kids out of school and put them on the right road.


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  • #732
    lawlolawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    Advbrd wrote: »
    I am a white male who happens to be straight and who happens to be reasonably well off. Sorry for having a reasonably good life.
    Why do I get the feeling that the longer I live, the more I am going to have to apologise for being a "White Cisgender Privileged Male".
    I'm getting a bit sick of all this nonsense to be honest.

    A certain event happened overnight that is going to change an awful lot in our discourse as a society :D


  • #733
    mzungu
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,310 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    jimgoose wrote: »
    People like Ms. O'Neill are quite privileged as well. That's why they have the time and resources to spend most of their time on social meeja crying over being impoverished one-legged Ethiopian lesbians, in spirit.

    Aye, I think the irony of it is lost on them.


  • #734
    Advbrd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Advbrd


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    a swift "f*ck off" should deal with that

    Yeah, that or something similar is the normal response. It just goes to reaffirm my privilege.


  • #735
    pumpkin4life
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭pumpkin4life


    lawlolawl wrote: »
    A certain event happened overnight that is going to change an awful lot in our discourse as a society :D

    Agreed. You're going to see more people talking openly about these topics and telling the more extreme parts to fùck off. I think Donald Trump's win has collectively risen the testosterone of a lot of Western Men :D


  • #736
    Noveight
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Noveight


    jimgoose wrote: »
    That's why they have the time and resources to spend most of their time on social meeja crying over being impoverished one-legged Ethiopian lesbians, in spirit.

    Excellent :D


  • #737
    lawlolawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    pumpkin4life wrote: »
    Agreed. You're going to see more people talking openly about these topics and telling the more extreme parts to fùck off. I think Donald Trump's win has collectively risen the testosterone of a lot of Western Men :D

    It proves that more people are sick of this SJW, lefty nonsense than support it.


  • #738
    The Specialist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭The Specialist


    py2006 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/oneilllo/status/796305438547574784

    I just facepalmed so hard I nearly broke my nose. Shows what a ****ing muppet she is, a shining example of the nauseating generation snowflake and their bandwagon victimhood. Patethic.


  • #739
    Mortpourvelo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 393 ✭✭Mortpourvelo


    Advbrd wrote: »
    Yeah, that or something similar is the normal response. It just goes to reaffirm my privilege.

    Oh and apparently saying "how am I privileged ? I'm working class Irish and grew up in a council house" is met with "you have the option to advance socially".

    Eh ????


  • #740
    ligerdub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,585 ✭✭✭ligerdub


    Widdershins wrote: »
    It just came out of the blue. She's vicious.

    There seems to be a recurring trend with her actions where she goes out of her way to find criticism of her, and will respond in as vicious a way as possible. I dearly hope her profile diminishes as soon as possible.

    It's quite juvenile.









    Hi Louise!!


  • #741
    Connacht2KXX
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭Connacht2KXX


    ligerdub wrote: »
    There seems to be a recurring trend with her actions where she goes out of her way to find criticism of her, and will respond in as vicious a way as possible. I dearly hope her profile diminishes as soon as possible.

    It's quite juvenile.









    Hi Louise!!

    I don't care what you say, you're opinion comes from patriarchal brainwashing you misogynistic, transphobic, homophobic, fatphobic, cis scum


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  • #742
    Mortpourvelo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 393 ✭✭Mortpourvelo


    Connacht2KXX wrote: »
    I don't care what you say, you're opinion comes from patriarchal brainwashing you misogynistic, transphobic, homophobic, fatphobic, cis scum

    Hilarious!!


  • #743
    demfad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,182 ✭✭✭demfad


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Quote from Ms. O'Neill: "You are a real piece of shit. Good luck" in response to a ham-fisted but reasonably harmless criticism.

    Harmless? Accusing LGBT people of alienating themselves from society and wanting attention for it is a pretty horrible thing to say in fairness.
    He is saying that being gay etc. is an act of self-alienation and not hiding in shame amounts to 'attention seeking'.
    If being themselves is alienating them from society then society needs to be more tolerant. Her comment was pretty fair.

    Note: the poster goes on to state his position represents 'real' Americans
    (white presumably)

    Absolutely nothing harmless about that man's world view.


  • #744
    midnight city
    Closed Accounts Posts: 531 ✭✭✭midnight city


    I'm glad the number of women voting for Trump was much higher than expected. It shows the likes of Louise that they aren't speaking for all women, or anywhere near it.

    Louise would have even voted for Myra Hindley over trump id imagine such is her hatred of men.


  • #745
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    demfad wrote: »
    Harmless? Accusing LGBT people of alienating themselves from society and wanting attention for it is a pretty horrible thing to say in fairness.
    He is saying that being gay etc. is an act of self-alienation and not hiding in shame amounts to 'attention seeking'.
    If being themselves is alienating them from society then society needs to be more tolerant. Her comment was pretty fair.

    Note: the poster goes on to state his position represents 'real' Americans
    (white presumably)

    Absolutely nothing harmless about that man's world view.
    oNeill has no right to criticise that man's life experience as a gay man. she's exhibiting some disgusting straight privilege.


  • #746
    demfad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,182 ✭✭✭demfad


    midnight city wrote: »
    I'm glad the number of women voting for Trump was much higher than expected. It shows the likes of Louise that they aren't speaking for all women, or anywhere near it.

    Louise would have even voted for Myra Hindley over trump id imagine such is her hatred of men.

    The number of women voting for Trump was way lower than men voting for him even amongst his core supporters.

    You don't have to hate men to vote against a misogynist who has boasted about sexually assaulting women and may face trial for similar: possibly even the rape of a thirteen year old minor.


  • #747
    demfad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,182 ✭✭✭demfad


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    oNeill has no right to criticise that man's life experience as a gay man. she's exhibiting some disgusting straight privilege.

    His comment was about LGBT people not himself. She criticized his assertion that LGBT naturally alienated themselves and then sought attention for it. A vile comment.
    You can't expect your argument to hold any integrity if you attack her for things she did not actually do or say.


  • #748
    midnight city
    Closed Accounts Posts: 531 ✭✭✭midnight city


    demfad wrote: »
    The number of women voting for Trump was way lower than men voting for him even amongst his core supporters.

    54% of white women voted for him. I doubt they felt he was misogynist.


  • #749
    ligerdub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,585 ✭✭✭ligerdub


    demfad wrote: »
    The number of women voting for Trump was way lower than men voting for him even amongst his core supporters.

    You don't have to hate men to vote against a misogynist who has boasted about sexually assaulting women and may face trial for similar: possibly even the rape of a thirteen year old minor.

    What do you have to say to get censored around here?!


  • #750
    demfad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,182 ✭✭✭demfad


    ligerdub wrote: »
    What do you have to say to get censored around here?!

    Something that isn't blatantly true I guess:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/12/donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-alleged-rape-lawsuit
    A federal judge in New York has ordered counsel for Donald Trump and the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein to appear in court along with the attorney for a woman referred to only as “Jane Doe” who alleges the Republican presidential nominee raped her when she was 13.

    Judge Ronnie Abrams has slated an initial status conference in the civil lawsuit for 16 December in a New York district court.
    (Jeffrey Epstein was already convicted of underage sex crimes in 2008 )


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  • #751
    ligerdub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,585 ✭✭✭ligerdub


    Your comments are entirely bogus! He never boasted of assaulting women, I'm not going over that one again, I'm sure you've already heard why that's not true.

    As for your other point.....http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3914012/Troubled-woman-history-drug-use-claimed-assaulted-Donald-Trump-Jeffrey-Epstein-sex-party-age-13-FABRICATED-story.html

    Keep criticisms fair.


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