El Presidente Trump

The Highwayman · 09-11-2016 02:37PM

Oafley Jones wrote: »

I'm genuinely curious as to how Trump is going to handle the actual workload of the job. Not the stress... I don't think that'd concern him, more the dedication required. He's a lazy ****er by all accounts and this isn't a job where you get much sleep.

Bush Jr did 8 years, started a couple of wars and still took over 400 days off during his presidency.

jimgoose · 09-11-2016 02:37PM

AnGaelach wrote: »

It definitely is not. Apple alone has $200bn sitting in accounts outside the US jurisdictions. Which do you think is better, 15% of $200bn or 35% of nothing?

You're mixing up the notion of repatriation of profits with that of lowering the jurisdiction's corporation tax rates. Game of two halves, chief.

Christy42 · 09-11-2016 02:39PM

Widdershins wrote: »

Christy42 wrote: »

Remember after brexit racists in the streets felt justified and attacks on minorities increased. I expect (but hope I am wrong) the same effect here.
/QUOTE]

I don't think they did. Reports to Facebook page ''worrying signs'' were taken into account when that conclusion was reached. There were many such reports but many of those came from 'witnesses' rather than from people who had directly experienced racism. Quite a few of them struck me as falsified by someone looking for a pat on the back. No doubt some of them actually happened, sadly, but probably no more than pre brexit.

Official stats beat "probably".
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2016/sep/07/hate-surged-after-eu-referendum-police-figures-show?client=ms-android-h3g-ie
Note there were independent and other articles as well as the guardian but my phone only allow me to copy this one's url. Feel free to search for the rest.

AnGaelach · 09-11-2016 02:42PM

jimgoose wrote: »

You're mixing up the notion of repatriation of profits with that of lowering the jurisdiction's corporation tax rates. Game of two halves, chief.

The middle-sized American company (of which many operate in Ireland) don't want to have to pay a couple more accountants to get creative with getting around repatriation efforts. Right now, companies like Apple and Alphabet have enormous sums of money sitting in accounts in the Bahamas waiting for the US tax rate to drop before they repatriate their money.

Instead of that fancy accounting stuff, companies will be able to just repatriate their profits from Ireland to the US with relative ease. This means more companies will set up in Ireland since the ease of doing business is that much easier.

Unless you disagree with Michael Noonan, who has said what myself and others have already said in this thread (I'll dig up the posts for you if you want).

Jelle1880 · 09-11-2016 02:42PM

Lt Dan wrote: »

Agreeing to sign into law , policies passed by both Houses that are democratically elected by the people. And you complain about that?

Just because a policy is passed doesn't make it right. In itself it's a backwards, anti-gay policy aimed to please the radical religious nutjobs in the US.
I see you're trying your hardest to dodge that fact.

ligerdub: Got any pictures of that Mexican wall on their south border ? Because I already said it's not true, yet you keep spouting that lie.

jimgoose · 09-11-2016 02:44PM

AnGaelach wrote: »

The middle-sized American company (of which many operate in Ireland) don't want to have to pay a couple more accountants to get creative with getting around repatriation efforts. Right now, companies like Apple and Alphabet have enormous sums of money sitting in accounts in the Bahamas waiting for the US tax rate to drop before they repatriate their money.

Instead of that fancy accounting stuff, companies will be able to just repatriate their profits from Ireland to the US with relative ease. This means more companies will set up in Ireland since the ease of doing business is that much easier.

Unless you disagree with Michael Noonan, who has said what myself and others have already said in this thread (I'll dig up the posts for you if you want).

I agree with you. Just trying to agree also with the other chap who said the lowering of the US corporate tax rate from 35% to 15%, or anything like it, is simply not going to happen.

gormdubhgorm · 09-11-2016 02:44PM

Brenda Power on newstalk. Hilarious stuff she is going around in circles. Feminism stupid men, stupid women voted she said.
Completely ignoring Hillary's flaws.

09-11-2016 02:44PM

martingriff wrote: »

Calm down people. 1 of 2 things will happen when Trump take office.

1 The house and senate will tell him we can't do x and y. Things will be watered down (illegal immigrants nned to be tackled). They can't and will not drop corporation from 35% to 15% that be fiscal suicide. He will go along with them

2. He will not go along with above and leave and Pence will become president. It is good pc crap will ne gone for a bit

Are we supposed to be calm about Scenario 2?

I would take Trump as President anyday over Mike Pence. Mike Pence makes George Dubya look like the Dalai Lama. This isn't 'PC crap' its naked racism and bigotry.

At least the Donald doesn't believe, or can't remember, most of the shit he says.

Cienciano · 09-11-2016 02:44PM

ligerdub wrote: »

No it isn't.

There are plenty of walled borders around the world, including Mexico! They have a walled border at the South of their country. Are they racists?

I don't think they do.

tonycascarino · 09-11-2016 02:45PM

Wibbs wrote: »

He's a career politician. They're guaranteed to have more flip flops than a Spanish beach resort.

Enda is a bloody tool with no balls and should have kept his mouth shut in the first place. He only goes where the wind is blowing. Trump to the left of us and Brexit to the right, here we are stuck in the middle with you.

jimgoose · 09-11-2016 02:47PM

tonycascarino wrote: »

Enda is a bloody tool and should have kept his mouth shut. He only goes where the wind is blowing.

He might yet be forced by Ruth "Libtard Butthurt" Coppinger to square up and get duct-taped to that chair for his head-shaving:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/enda-kenny-questioned-when-hell-meet-trump-to-tell-him-hes-racist-35202127.html

:pac::pac::pac:

oik · 09-11-2016 02:50PM

Oafley Jones wrote: »

I'm genuinely curious as to how Trump is going to handle the actual workload of the job. Not the stress... I don't think that'd concern him, more the dedication required. He's a lazy ****er by all accounts and this isn't a job where you get much sleep.

Rubbish

He was doing 7 rallies a day at one point. He held far more rallies than Clinton. Lazy he is not.

bodhrandude · 09-11-2016 02:50PM

The How to Move to Canada website crashed this morning as a result of the election. :pac:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/how-to-move-to-canada-immigration-website-crash-donald-trump-president-a7406106.html

oik · 09-11-2016 02:50PM

Cienciano wrote: »

I don't think they do.

The fact is they do.

steddyeddy · 09-11-2016 02:51PM

BoatMad wrote: »

Trump is not Hitler, so lets leave Godwin out of this

No he's not but he has similar views. I don't care about Godwin's law; if someone is rising to a position of power, showing similarities with Hitler I will point it out. I think it's our job to point it out.

Jelle1880 · 09-11-2016 02:51PM

oik wrote: »

The fact is they do.

Got any proof ?

tonycascarino · 09-11-2016 02:52PM

bodhrandude wrote: »

The How to Move to Canada website crashed this morning as a result of the election. :pac:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/how-to-move-to-canada-immigration-website-crash-donald-trump-president-a7406106.html

In reality though nobody is going to move to Canada. All OTT rubbish.

greedygoblin · 09-11-2016 02:53PM

bodhrandude wrote: »

The How to Move to Canada website crashed this morning as a result of the election. :pac:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/how-to-move-to-canada-immigration-website-crash-donald-trump-president-a7406106.html

They could alternatively move to Mexico I suppose...

Jelle1880 · 09-11-2016 02:53PM

tonycascarino wrote: »

In reality though nobody is going to move to Canada. All OTT rubbish.

I'm sure a few people might, but they probably don't know that Canada's economy isn't exactly the best at the moment (to put it lightly).

inforfun · 09-11-2016 02:55PM

Good losers as the Clinton fans are, they have started to riot.

Of course the good ol' media call it protests.

martingriff · 09-11-2016 02:55PM

AnGaelach wrote: »

martingriff wrote: »

Calm down people. 1 of 2 things will happen when Trump take office.

1 The house and senate will tell him we can't do x and y. Things will be watered down (illegal immigrants nned to be tackled). They can't and will not drop corporation from 35% to 15% that be fiscal suicide. He will go along with them

2. He will not go along with above and leave and Pence will become president. It is good pc crap will ne gone for a bit

It definitely is not. Apple alone has $200bn sitting in accounts outside the US jurisdictions. Which do you think is better, 15% of $200bn or 35% of nothing?

That $200bn would not be affected by corporation tax (been said in another post). Given ours is 12.5% at the moment I do not think they would move might have other reason for staying here. So if the big companies do not move thats a big hole to fill. So how would they fill it would they take the risk to see if the companies will move back

jmayo · 09-11-2016 02:56PM

Permabear wrote: »

This post had been deleted.

Are you just bragging about your young girlfriend
Shure you are no better than Trump.

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Wanting to build a wall to stop a particular group of people getting into your country is racist, there's no other way to describe it.

WTF.
Those Chinese must have been quare racist so.

BTW does anyone have idea along which motorway the Trump Plaza is going ?

kunst nugget · 09-11-2016 02:58PM

inforfun wrote: »

Good losers as the Clinton fans are, they have started to riot.

Of course the good ol' media call it protests.

Any media I'm looking at is calling it riots…

inforfun · 09-11-2016 02:58PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

I d riot too if that gob****e trump was elected president of where I m living, and I couldn t give two ****s about Clinton.

Yeah, because that will make things a lot better.
What didnt improve after a bunch of idiots set places on fire after all.

/hums Stones song

Cienciano · 09-11-2016 03:00PM

oik wrote: »

The fact is they do.

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Got any proof ?

Well, here's proof that they don't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemala%E2%80%93Mexico_border

Maximus Alexander · 09-11-2016 03:00PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

I'm sure a few people might, but they probably don't know that Canada's economy isn't exactly the best at the moment (to put it lightly).

An influx of educated labour might be just the medicine...

TheOven · 09-11-2016 03:01PM

He didn't get the popular vote, that should make things fun.

scamalert · 09-11-2016 03:01PM

well we woken up to the new world,thats what happens when governments ignore people and give them chance to cast their say after decades running countries into poverty.

Now no one likes Trump and fact that he will be on tv for next 4 years daily,is total head wreck but people cast their votes,it wasn't rigged as so many debated but proper election,and given that this will be recorded as worst election as which candidates were running,theres not much else to say.Only time will show if Trump has some cells in his brains or will he continue like he did in debates.

4yrs is short period for any president to make any changes,thus whatever he promised it will soon be evident if he will do any changes to improve general economy or just drive it into the ground,or just join the club and like all presidents just carry on parading around until next term.

HellSquirrel · 09-11-2016 03:01PM

oik wrote: »

The fact is they do.

No, they do not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemala%E2%80%93Mexico_border
https://www.quora.com/Does-Mexico-have-a-wall-on-its-southern-border
http://www.snopes.com/mexico-guatemala-border/

The picture you have seen of it is in the West Bank.

Eamondomc · 09-11-2016 03:01PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

I d riot too if that gob****e trump was elected president of where I m living, and I couldn t give two ****s about Clinton.

It's a mad world, such rancour over Americans' voting for who they want instead of who most of the rest of the world want, maybe we should all get a vote?

El Presidente Trump

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