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El Presidente Trump

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  • #1022
    Depp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    anna080 wrote: »
    The moment the result was official. Even Trump is like "fcuk".

    lol at yer man fistbumping in the background :D


  • #1023
    FA Hayek
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭FA Hayek


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    Because John Oliver or Katie Perry said it?


  • #1024
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,355 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    It's ironic that after years of the NRA gun-nuts spouting on about how they need the latest multi-killer death machine to protect them from the government, that the person they backed might just represent the kind of tyranny they've harked upon.


  • #1025
    Car99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭Car99


    President Trump will need more personal security than any president before him.


  • #1026
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    FA Hayek wrote: »
    Because John Oliver or Katie Perry said it?

    John Oliver's career just took a huge upward turn last night by the way, similar to Jon Stewart's under Bush.


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  • #1027
    Lt Dan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    It's his VP candidate, his views reflect on those of Trump and vice versa.

    Trump has also said he would sign the First Amendment Defense Act if passed by Congress. So yes, he has expressed anti-LBGT sentiments no matter how much he claims to be a friend of them.

    Agreeing to sign into law , policies passed by both Houses that are democratically elected by the people. And you complain about that?


  • #1028
    Lt Dan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    Billy86 wrote: »
    John Oliver's career just took a huge upward turn last night by the way, similar to Jon Stewart's under Bush.

    All political comedians are thanking their stars today. They are in work for the next 4 years. Bush was a god send. As was Bill

    They were not allowed to be overly critical or make fun of Obama and make it effective because (a) According to SJW and the Snow Flakes, that would be wacist and (b) Obama had a good sense of humor


  • #1029
    patmac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,607 ✭✭✭patmac


    Enda back tracking rapidly on RTE news now.


  • #1030
    Depp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    Lt Dan wrote: »
    Agreeing to sign into law , policies passed by both Houses that are democratically elected by the people. And you complain about that?

    typical ''democracy only works when it suits me'' rhetoric...becoming very tired


  • #1031
    Depp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    patmac wrote: »
    Enda back tracking rapidly on RTE news now.

    he's made a show of himself with his comments and to a lesser extent the country as a whole...really should have kept his mouth shut

    to be fair to him thats nothing new, hes been doing it for years


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  • #1032
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lt Dan wrote: »
    Give it two years, and his fans will turn on him. Just like those who cried and put "Yes We Can" posters all over the place 8 years ago, turned on their savior
    Obama's approval rating now (56%) is higher than his share of the popular vote in 2008.

    I'm not Obama's biggest fan, mostly because of his dithering over Syria. But he was utterly hamstrung by becoming a lame duck President. Although Congress initially worked with him, they later turned on him, and he had to get creative with Executive actions.

    I think most reasonable watchers of American politics accept that Obama was extremely limited in what he could get past Congress after 2010. That's the rigid nature of US constitutional architecture that, thankfully, will save the world from the whims and impulses of Donald Trump.


  • #1033
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.
    Indeed and I personally would be halting migrants into the EU more, not less. Before some flip out, this does not mean not extending aid into the areas they come from. I just don't like to see the EU being taken for a ride.

    For me Trump winning or not is less the issue, the bigger issue for me is that the two party system in the US offered up two repellent candidates, with little to recommend either. Clinton was more about not being Trump than being a good candidate in her own right. A setup like that gets what it deserves.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #1034
    ligerdub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,585 ✭✭✭ligerdub


    humanji wrote:
    Who started off telling people he'd make their country great again? That used specific groups as scapegoats? Blaming the "elites" for not taking care of the little people?


    Pointless and irrelevant comparison. You forget that Hitler included the complete extermination of the Jews as a goal well before he got into power. He didn't hide his goals.

    Donald Trump is a deal maker, he's not in the businesd of genocide.


  • #1035
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    patmac wrote: »
    Enda back tracking rapidly on RTE news now.
    He's a career politician. They're guaranteed to have more flip flops than a Spanish beach resort.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #1036
    AnGaelach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭AnGaelach


    For those who are claiming Trump will destroy our economy

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-ireland-tax-idUSKBN1342FN?il=0
    "It's the repatriation of profits that is the primary issue. Now, if you reduce that to 15 percent, it seems to me that that is not an disincentive for setting up abroad," Michael Noonan told a parliamentary committee.

    "As a matter of fact, it could work the other way because you pay much less tax if you repatriate profits from Ireland in the future."

    Looks like myself and BoatMad were right in our assumption.


  • #1037
    WoolyJumper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭WoolyJumper


    jmayo wrote: »
    He is not and never has been part of the political establishment or political elite.

    He has had various different party affiliations over the years and once dipped his toe in the presidential campaign as candidate for the Reform party.
    On the other hand Clinton was working on election campaigns in the 60s.
    She helped get her hubby elected governor of Arkansas.
    While he was governor she was appointed to various political appointed positions such as chair of health and education committees.

    She helped get her hubby elected president.
    She was very much involved in the running of his administrations and probably one of the most influential first ladies outside of Eleanor Roosevelt.

    She was elected Senator in 2000.
    She ran for president in 2008, but missed out on nomination to Obama.
    She was Secretary of State in first Obama administration.

    So please who is and isn't part of the political elite or political establishment.

    I'm not denying that Hilary is part of the establishment. I'm just saying people are kidding themselves if they think this guy is not part of the establishment. He is a Billionaire business man, they are a big part of the elite. They have a huge background influence on American politics. Just because he was never a politician doesn't not mean he is not part of the elite. The elite is far more than the politicans


  • #1038
    Lt Dan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    Depp wrote: »
    typical ''democracy only works when it suits me'' rhetoric...becoming very tired

    Does not stop it being true!


  • #1039
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,150 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I can see the sun shining outside, it's obviously forgotten that it's supposed to hide away today; behind masses of doom laden storm clouds.


  • #1040
    martingriff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,339 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Calm down people. 1 of 2 things will happen when Trump take office.

    1 The house and senate will tell him we can't do x and y. Things will be watered down (illegal immigrants nned to be tackled). They can't and will not drop corporation from 35% to 15% that be fiscal suicide. He will go along with them

    2. He will not go along with above and leave and Pence will become president. It is good pc crap will ne gone for a bit


  • #1041
    Going Forward
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,224 ✭✭✭Going Forward


    Dónal O'Trump.

    Has a bit of a ring to it if you keep saying it.


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  • #1042
    AnGaelach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭AnGaelach


    Wibbs wrote: »
    He's a career politician. They're guaranteed to have more flip flops than a Spanish beach resort.

    He's also not the only one. Gerry Adams congratulated him, as did Micheal Martin. It's simple pragmatism. They saw Trump as getting battered and thought scoring brownie points would help them domestically, but now that he's actually won, we're going to have to work with him.


  • #1043
    Depp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    Lt Dan wrote: »
    Does not stop it being true!

    of course it does, its a completely ridiculous notion. democracy is democracy whether you agree with the result or not.


  • #1044
    AnGaelach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭AnGaelach


    martingriff wrote: »
    Calm down people. 1 of 2 things will happen when Trump take office.

    1 The house and senate will tell him we can't do x and y. Things will be watered down (illegal immigrants nned to be tackled). They can't and will not drop corporation from 35% to 15% that be fiscal suicide. He will go along with them

    2. He will not go along with above and leave and Pence will become president. It is good pc crap will ne gone for a bit

    It definitely is not. Apple alone has $200bn sitting in accounts outside the US jurisdictions. Which do you think is better, 15% of $200bn or 35% of nothing?


  • #1045
    Widdershins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Remember after brexit racists in the streets felt justified and attacks on minorities increased. I expect (but hope I am wrong) the same effect here.
    /QUOTE]

    I don't think they did. Reports to Facebook page ''worrying signs'' were taken into account when that conclusion was reached. There were many such reports but many of those came from 'witnesses' rather than from people who had directly experienced racism. Quite a few of them struck me as falsified by someone looking for a pat on the back. No doubt some of them actually happened, sadly, but probably no more than pre brexit.


  • #1046
    Zillah
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    ligerdub wrote: »
    You forget that Hitler included the complete extermination of the Jews as a goal well before he got into power. He didn't hide his goals.

    This statement is the opposite of reality. He was open in his hatred of the Jews but there was no talk of extermination. Even while it was going on the Holocaust was kept fairly quiet. The decision to conduct The Final Solution wasn't even reached until 1942.


  • #1047
    swimming in a sea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 937 ✭✭✭swimming in a sea


    anna080 wrote: »
    The moment the result was official. Even Trump is like "fcuk".

    That's a great picture, I'd love to see the Clinton Photo at the same time :D:D


  • #1048
    Lt Dan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    Obama's approval rating now (56%) is higher than his share of the popular vote in 2008.

    I'm not Obama's biggest fan, mostly because of his dithering over Syria. But he was utterly hamstrung by becoming a lame duck President. Although Congress initially worked with him, they later turned on him, and he had to get creative with Executive actions.

    I think most reasonable watchers of American politics accept that Obama was extremely limited in what he could get past Congress after 2010. That's the rigid nature of US constitutional architecture that, thankfully, will save the world from the whims and impulses of Donald Trump.

    Hang on.

    I am not a critic of Obama. I like him. I think he has repaired America's repuation on the International Stage. Got Bin Laden. Got Gaddafi too, but, not sure that was smart,. (I was not) Inherited an awful economy and had huge problems even getting harmless even policies through both houses. I have already said that I hope history treats him well

    His approval rate is good, and rightly so. But some of his people did turn on him. That is all I have to say on that.

    Just like Obama, Trump will also have his limitations, hence. I don't fear that some of his alleged ideas will see the light of day


  • #1049
    ligerdub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,585 ✭✭✭ligerdub


    AudreyHepburn wrote:
    Wanting to build a wall to stop a particular group of people getting into your country is racist, there's no other way to describe it.


    No it isn't.

    There are plenty of walled borders around the world, including Mexico! They have a walled border at the South of their country. Are they racists?


  • #1050
    Lt Dan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    Depp wrote: »
    of course it does, its a completely ridiculous notion. democracy is democracy whether you agree with the result or not.

    Agreed

    I am not the one complaining about Trump agreeing to sign into law a policy that may be supported by both Houses and throwing the using labels at him for agreeing to allow democracy takes its course


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  • #1051
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    ligerdub wrote: »
    No it isn't.

    There are plenty of walled borders around the world, including Mexico! They have a walled border at the South of their country. Are they racists?
    It's only "racist" if white people do it.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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