2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

Harvey Normal · 09-11-2016 06:55AM

listermint wrote: »

And there you have it.

Ignorance in one.

You say Trump won't be good for Ireland and then say it matters about the US on the world stage then on the other side you go on about people taking power back to their own countries.

Do you not live in ireland.

This is comedy gold.

Can you read? Because I said nothing about "taking back power in their own countries".

I'm opposed to the neo conservatives. i think trump is less likely to sabre rattle with Russia and Syria than Clinton. America's internal politics are its own affair.

listermint · 09-11-2016 06:55AM

Jawgap wrote: »

If anyone thinks we'll do better under Trump, then we would've under Clinton they are either uninformed or perennial optimists.

The intellectual property driven companies should be ok, but pharma and any other manufacturer (Intel?) have stormy seas ahead.

Forest for the trees these lads.

Or else as I suspect they are sitting on their couches all day not working on our free health care and generous welfare.

Happy days. It's other people's problem right?

Sparks43 · 09-11-2016 06:55AM

enfant terrible wrote: »

Poor call

No need for that.

At the time i made my prediction and the poster replied with that it really could have went any way

He made the call early which i strongly respect. Rather that than looking in hindsight

TheOven · 09-11-2016 06:56AM

Harvey Normal wrote: »

There bravado in his campaign but, as Amazingfun pointed out, Clinton has much more repeatedly threatened war on Russia, Syria etc.

However I'm not a trump supporter. If he's an American imperialist I will oppose him. She definitely is.

If he wasn't planning on increasing the size of the military, wanting to use nuclear weapons, and wanting to attack Iranian sailors then maybe I could believe you but talking about Clinton and not denying what he has said does nothing to suggest that he someone has no interest in wars.

enfant terrible · 09-11-2016 06:56AM

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/796196451428823040

It's not fair to label all Trump supporters racists but I do believe there are plenty who were pissed off the black guy won (twice).

Race relations is a big issue bubbling under the surface of America and perhaps not far off boiling over in the next 12 months.

When black people overwhelmingly vote for black candidates, is that racist too?

listermint · 09-11-2016 06:57AM

Harvey Normal wrote: »

Can you read? Because I said nothing about "taking back power in their own countries".

I'm opposed to the neo conservatives. i think trump is less likely to sabre rattle with Russia and Syria than Clinton. America's internal politics are its own affair.

Why do you care more about people ratling each other's gates than where the food on your table is coming from.

WW3 has been coming since 1940 and still no sign of it. Just tosh thrown around by conspiracy nuts

flazio · 09-11-2016 06:57AM

Tell me Amazing Fun. What is it exactly you're looking forward to in Trumps reign. And please, no general "make America great" or "spread his love" answer. What policy are you looking for?

Nabber · 09-11-2016 06:57AM

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/796196451428823040

It's not fair to label all Trump supporters racists but I do believe there are plenty who were pissed off the black guy won (twice).

Race relations is a big issue bubbling under the surface of America and perhaps not far off boiling over in the next 12 months.

But...
Clinton had Female, Latino, Black, Asian, Liberal and millennials

Surely White 40+ conservative racist male vote can't carry the election:P:P

enfant terrible · 09-11-2016 06:58AM

Sparks43 wrote: »

No need for that.

At the time i made my prediction and the poster replied with that it really could have went any way

He made the call early which i strongly respect. Rather that than looking in hindsight

Winning by 50 is ridiculous prediction.

Sparks43 · 09-11-2016 06:59AM

enfant terrible wrote: »

Winning by 50 is ridiculous prediction.

Take into account the time the prediction was made.

A Primal Nut · 09-11-2016 07:00AM

enfant terrible wrote: »

When black people overwhelmingly vote for black candidates, is that racist too?

The African American vote for Clinton is only down a few percent from Obama and even the few percent can be accounted for by Clinton being down overall from Obama. They vote Democratic regardless of race.

Amazingfun · 09-11-2016 07:00AM

flazio wrote: »

Tell me Amazing Fun. What is it exactly you're looking forward to in Trumps reign. And please, no general "make America great" or "spread his love" answer. What policy are you looking for?

Why not

Nabber · 09-11-2016 07:01AM

enfant terrible wrote: »

When black people overwhelmingly vote for black candidates, is that racist too?

BBC said 'Black vote came out in force for Obama for obvious reasons'

Then later said 'White males came out in force for Trump, does that hint at white racial undertones in USA?'

White people had a choice, vote for 1 of 4 white people :pac::pac:

RobertKK · 09-11-2016 07:01AM

A Primal Nut wrote: »

20% of Latinos were polled as voting for Trump (probably higher on the day as the Trump vote was higher than polled).......more than for Romney. Amazing really. A lot of the stuff the media focused on meant nothing.

My sister's sister in law in the US, she married an American but still doesn't have US citizenship, and she had lived illegally in the US...
My sister told me she was posting loads of pro-Trump on Facebook, and she is very anti illegal immigration....
As my sister called her 'the big eejit'.
I do have to laugh at it.

Mr.Nice Guy · 09-11-2016 07:01AM

enfant terrible wrote: »

When black people overwhelmingly vote for black candidates, is that racist too?

It's racist if they can't stomach the idea of someone of a difference race getting the win, purely because of their race.

Harvey Normal · 09-11-2016 07:02AM

listermint wrote: »

Why do you care more about people ratling each other's gates than where the food on your table is coming from.

WW3 has been coming since 1940 and still no sign of it. Just tosh thrown around by conspiracy nuts

Sure the bay of pigs and all the other near misses were just conspiracies. You've moved away from defending Clinton as a war monger to supporting her as one.

And I don't understand the food on my table reference.

RobertKK · 09-11-2016 07:02AM

Looks like a funeral at Clinton HQ with some people crying.

flazio · 09-11-2016 07:02AM

Amazingfun wrote: »

Why not

What I'd like to know is how you expect him to deliver on these slogans?

enfant terrible · 09-11-2016 07:03AM

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

It's racist if they can't stomach the idea of someone of a difference race getting the win, purely because of their race.

So your just assuming they're racist?

listermint · 09-11-2016 07:04AM

Harvey Normal wrote: »

Sure the bay of pigs and all the other near misses were just conspiracies. You've moved away from defending Clinton as a war monger to supporting her as one.

And I don't understand the food on my table reference.

I've defended nothing on war just saying you have a deluded view if you think ww3 would come under Clinton.

Joining dots on packets of foil.

NIMAN · 09-11-2016 07:04AM

Politicians rarely deliver on election promises.

Nabber · 09-11-2016 07:04AM

Trump up 50K in PENN @ 97.7%

Ouch.... The tears will be out if it goes red.

Amazingfun · 09-11-2016 07:04AM

RobertKK wrote: »

Looks like a funeral at Clinton HQ with some people crying.

This is a night we will never forget

Jericho Caine · 09-11-2016 07:06AM

Amazingfun wrote: »

Interesting. I can tell you have a difficult time in life when things don't go your way

Ps: I am sober 15 years, and I am female, just so you can be accurate when including me in your future tantrums.

What difference does your gender make? I have a lifetime of experience in dealing with alcoholics, want to know what they all have in common? They all think they are the smartest people in the room. You have no credibility.

I still maintain a history of alcoholism and an obviously poor cognitive acumen is not a combination to take seriously.

Mr.Nice Guy · 09-11-2016 07:06AM

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/796226561972305920

RobertKK · 09-11-2016 07:07AM

Van Jones blaming the Russians on CNN.

There are plenty of people in many countries who couldn't stand Clinton. So much generalisation that we all wanted Hillary the neocon in power.

jooksavage · 09-11-2016 07:07AM

Don't blame me. I voted for Kodos.

Fr Tod Umptious · 09-11-2016 07:07AM

Can anyone explain why Trump is winning this.

Did Clinton supporters just stay at home assuming a victory ?Unlikely as it looked lik a big turnout.

Someone said on this or another thread that 20℅ of lations voted for Trump, have the media over exaggerated the numbers of minorities and women that they assumed were in the Clinton camp ?

Even though I know full well that Clinton is as about as unlikeable as they come I'm still surprised by this.

RobertKK · 09-11-2016 07:08AM

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/796226561972305920

Like the Russians....Obama failed to take them seriously and it backfired.

listermint · 09-11-2016 07:08AM

RobertKK wrote: »

Van Jones blaming the Russians on CNN.

There are plenty of people in many countries who couldn't stand Clinton. So much generalisation that we all wanted Hillary the neocon in power.

Republican pres Republican senate.

... And you talk about starting Wars

Laugh my face off.

2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

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