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2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

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  • #7262
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Poor Paul Begala, he was so sure Hillary would win.


  • #7263
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,187 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Amazingfun wrote: »

    That video demonstrates what exactly..


  • #7264
    TheOven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭TheOven


    Harvey Normal wrote: »
    Trump wants to withdraw American troops from the world. He didn't run on any kind of imperialist campaign. He's not sabre rattling.

    The organs of neo conservatism - weekly standard, wash post, wsj were pro Clinton.

    They wanted a continuation of endless wars. Trump is an isolationist.

    He wants to build up the military. If he isn't going to use them it is a waste of money.


  • #7265
    Harvey Normal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Harvey Normal


    listermint wrote: »
    You stated Clinton is likely to invade Iran and think she wants a war with Russia.

    Head in the clouds.

    Yes. I stated that. She clearly does.

    Trump may be dangerous because he is erratic but she was likely to cause WWIII. Particularly in Syria.


  • #7266
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    listermint wrote: »
    You stated Clinton is likely to invade Iran and think she wants a war with Russia.

    Head in the clouds.


    So what would the US do with Hillary's no fly zone in Syria when Russia ignored it?


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  • #7267
    Amazingfun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    TheOven wrote: »
    He wants to build up the military. If he isn't going to use them it is a waste of money.

    Peace Through Strength.


  • #7268
    Harvey Normal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Harvey Normal


    TheOven wrote: »
    He wants to build up the military. If he isn't going to use them it is a waste of money.

    He's contradictory. But in general he's an isolationist.

    You guys are only anti American imperialism when it suits you. I always am. The jury is out on trump. He may be an imperialist. She certainly is one. Particularly on Syria.


  • #7269
    A Primal Nut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    Strong words on CNN....."A whitelash against a black president".


  • #7270
    Jawgap
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Harvey Normal wrote: »
    Trump wants to withdraw American troops from the world. He didn't run on any kind of imperialist campaign. He's not sabre rattling.

    The organs of neo conservatism - weekly standard, wash post, wsj were pro Clinton.

    They wanted a continuation of endless wars. Trump is an isolationist.

    I'm sorry, but if you think JSOC, AFSOC and the CIA Special Activities Division aren't about to get a massive budget boost and expansion you're not very well informed.

    Now would be a good time to invest in General Atomics, the manufacturer of the Predator ;)


  • #7271
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,187 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    RobertKK wrote: »
    So what would the US do with Hillary's no fly zone in Syria when Russia ignored it?

    They've already ignored it.

    And.... Nothing.

    Neither side wants war its posturing the real stuff goes on in server racks.

    Anyway back to the questions I asked you and you legged it from please.

    You keep moving the conversation away from things you can't answer


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  • #7272
    Jericho Caine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭Jericho Caine


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Peace Through Strength.

    I recommend 35 proof for you.


  • #7273
    UsedToWait
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭UsedToWait


    Nabber wrote: »
    Tariff on companies who shipping manufacturing to another country

    Presumably, the US companies based here may now find our 'highly educated workforce' less attractive?


  • #7274
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,187 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    A Primal Nut wrote: »
    Strong words on CNN....."A whitelash against a black president".

    The senate have managed to do it all. Stiffle and progress for the country the last few years in hope to get a republican in.

    Well theyve done it. Theyve got a pretend republican. Now it will come home to roost


  • #7275
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Harvey Normal wrote: »
    Trump wants to withdraw American troops from the world. He didn't run on any kind of imperialist campaign. He's not sabre rattling.

    The organs of neo conservatism - weekly standard, wash post, wsj were pro Clinton.

    They wanted a continuation of endless wars. Trump is an isolationist.

    He's talked about crushing America's enemies, 'we don't win any more', he mentioned in one of the debates that they should have done better in utilizing the oil of the countries they invaded.

    Van Jones on CNN nearly in tears now talking about the Trump America. That will probably go viral.


  • #7276
    A Primal Nut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    20% of Latinos were polled as voting for Trump (probably higher on the day as the Trump vote was higher than polled).......more than for Romney. Amazing really. A lot of the stuff the media focused on meant nothing.


  • #7277
    TheOven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭TheOven


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Peace Through Strength.
    Harvey Normal wrote: »
    He's contradictory. But in general he's an isolationist.

    You guys are only anti American imperialism when it suits you. I always am. The jury is out on trump. He may be an imperialist. She certainly is one. Particularly on Syria.

    Right, so he wants to have the power to push everyone around but will never use it. Despite what he has said about nuclear weapons and Iranian sailors.

    Next you'll be saying that's his natural skin colour.


  • #7278
    Harvey Normal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Harvey Normal


    listermint wrote: »
    Because I have friends there that need it and unlike your privileged Irish ass can't sit on the Internet and critisis a president that brought it to them and are now faced with worrying how they're kids will fare with trumps attack on the same health care


    Some people can't see how utterly lucky they are in ireland I suppose.

    Ignorance wha

    Who gives a **** about "unprivileged" people in the centre of the world's empire. What matters is how the US acts on the world stage.

    Trump probably won't be good for Ireland - Apple is ****ed. He's probably less dangerous for the world than a known warmonger.


  • #7279
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,187 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    UsedToWait wrote: »
    Presumably, the US companies based here may now find our 'highly educated workforce' less attractive?

    Nah sure it's cool, the cookie Individuals cheering all this on will provide Ireland with jobs. Isn't that right lads.....


  • #7280
    Sparks43
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    I still cant get my head around this :confused:

    My deadlock/Trump prediction was just about bang on

    But i didnt in any sense expect him to hit near 300

    That is seriously scary.


  • #7281
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    A Primal Nut wrote: »
    Strong words on CNN....."A whitelash against a black president".

    Rubbish, people can see all the hope and change was not true, healthcare costs out of control, the US involved in more wars now than 2008, staying friends with Saudi Arabia and arming them who in turn are using those weapons to starve the people of Yemen.
    I don't think ordinary people like having relations getting worse and worse with Russia under the Democrats.
    The colour of his skin is not an issue, he simply will go down as a poor president, and a good talker.


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  • #7282
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,187 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Harvey Normal wrote: »
    Who gives a **** about "unprivileged" people in the centre of the world's empire. What matters is how the US acts on the world stage.

    Trump probably won't be good for Ireland - Apple is ****ed. He's probably less dangerous for the world than a known warmonger.

    And there you have it.

    Ignorance in one.

    You say Trump won't be good for Ireland and then say it matters about the US on the world stage then on the other side you go on about people taking power back to their own countries.

    Do you not live in ireland.

    This is comedy gold.


  • #7283
    Harvey Normal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Harvey Normal


    TheOven wrote: »
    Right, so he wants to have the power to push everyone around but will never use it. Despite what he has said about nuclear weapons and Iranian sailors.

    Next you'll be saying that's his natural skin colour.

    There bravado in his campaign but, as Amazingfun pointed out, Clinton has much more repeatedly threatened war on Russia, Syria etc.

    However I'm not a trump supporter. If he's an American imperialist I will oppose him. She definitely is.


  • #7284
    Jericho Caine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭Jericho Caine


    TheOven wrote: »
    Right, so he wants to have the power to push everyone around but will never use it. Despite what he has said about nuclear weapons and Iranian sailors.

    Next you'll be saying that's his natural skin colour.

    Amazingfun is an alcoholic moron. Not generally the most stable or rational of combinations, you're wasting your energy entertaining this guys posts.


  • #7285
    enfant terrible
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    Akrasia wrote: »
    I'm calling it Hillary with at least 50 electoral college votes to spare

    Poor call


  • #7286
    Amazingfun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

    Van Jones on CNN nearly in tears now talking about the Trump America. That will probably go viral.

    lol, I must catch that. So much WINNING already!


  • #7287
    Jawgap
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,296 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    listermint wrote: »
    Nah sure it's cool, the cookie Individuals cheering all this on will provide Ireland with jobs. Isn't that right lads.....

    If anyone thinks we'll do better under Trump, then we would've under Clinton they are either uninformed or perennial optimists.

    The intellectual property driven companies should be ok, but pharma and any other manufacturer (Intel?) have stormy seas ahead.


  • #7288
    Harry Angstrom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    A Primal Nut wrote: »
    20% of Latinos were polled as voting for Trump (probably higher on the day as the Trump vote was higher than polled).......more than for Romney. Amazing really. A lot of the stuff the media focused on meant nothing.

    There was an interesting interview on Sky News about half an hour ago with a pro-Trump Mexican woman in Nevada. Her views ran completely contrary to the general media depiction of Latinos being anti-Trump.


  • #7289
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Rubbish, people can see all the hope and change was not true, healthcare costs out of control, the US involved in more wars now than 2008, staying friends with Saudi Arabia and arming them who in turn are using those weapons to starve the people of Yemen.
    I don't think ordinary people like having relations getting worse and worse with Russia under the Democrats.
    The colour of his skin is not an issue, he simply will go down as a poor president, and a good talker.

    https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/796196451428823040

    It's not fair to label all Trump supporters racists but I do believe there are plenty who were pissed off the black guy won (twice).

    Race relations is a big issue bubbling under the surface of America and perhaps not far off boiling over in the next 12 months.


  • #7290
    Nabber
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭Nabber


    Penn will be called for Trump soon, puts him on 264.
    It's all but done now.


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  • #7291
    Amazingfun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Jericho Caine wrote: »
    Amazingfun is an alcoholic moron. Not generally the most stable or rational of combinations, you're wasting your energy entertaining this guys posts.

    Interesting. I can tell you have a difficult time in life when things don't go your way ;)

    Ps: I am sober 15 years, and I am female, just so you can be accurate when including me in your future tantrums.


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