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The Garda Strike

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  • #752
    Rightwing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    tayto lover wrote: »
    The fuse has been lit. They seem very angry.

    Between corruption, whistleblowing scandals, angry over pay, they've lost our confidence. But just so long as they get a bigger slice of the pie than others, that's all that matters in the PS world. No accountability just be 'very angry'.


  • #753
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 19,174 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Widdershins wrote: »
    How much do you think they deserve to be paid? What would you say is a fair wage for them?

    I think they want what they lost.
    When times were bad, Gardai accepted pay cuts, they also now pay a pension levy, which is just another tax, because they are Gardai.
    They are looking for what they lost, not more than that.


  • #754
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Rightwing wrote: »
    Between corruption, whistleblowing scandals, angry over pay, they've lost our confidence. But just so long as they get a bigger slice of the pie than others, that's all that matters in the PS world. No accountability just be 'very angry'.

    Well if you sit down meekly and take what's thrown at you then you will get very little. As the song goes " sometimes you have to fight to be a man".


  • #755
    Rightwing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Well if you sit down meekly and take what's thrown at you then you will get very little. As the song goes " sometimes you have to fight to be a man".

    That's all well and good until the country goes bankrupt one more time. PS will take a big hit the next time, because the private sector will be swept away. I do however concede that this is beyond the scope of Gardai etc.


  • #756
    Paulzx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Paulzx


    Rightwing wrote: »
    I didn't go to university for 5 years to be a glorified bouncer. ;)


    I see humility wasn't on the syllabus


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  • #757
    Widdershins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    bubblypop wrote: »
    I think they want what they lost.
    When times were bad, Gardai accepted pay cuts, they also now pay a pension levy, which is just another tax, because they are Gardai.
    They are looking for what they lost, not more than that.

    I'd support that if times were very good.


  • #758
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 19,174 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Widdershins wrote: »
    I'd support that if times were very good.

    But everything is saying it is!
    The government, the media.
    Don't sell it if it isn't true!


  • #759
    Vizzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    Rightwing wrote: »
    No. I don't like people spitting in my face. ;)

    No, it would appear that you would prefer to "spit" from your keyboard instead;)


  • #760
    Widdershins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    bubblypop wrote: »
    But everything is saying it is!
    The government, the media.
    Don't sell it if it isn't true!

    Pfft..things are great, if you work in government.


  • #761
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Rightwing wrote: »
    That's all well and good until the country goes bankrupt one more time. PS will take a big hit the next time, because the private sector will be swept away. I do however concede that this is beyond the scope of Gardai etc.
    If the Govt started charging the proper or even half the corporate rate to big businesses and stopped and cut down on a few of the non-productive farmers grants then it might not be so bad.


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  • #762
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    bubblypop wrote: »
    But everything is saying it is!
    The government, the media.
    Don't sell it if it isn't true!

    26% growth.


  • #763
    Cartouche
    Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭Cartouche


    I see the other public sector unions are taking notice of the guards situation
    Expect more public sector strikes and demands on the way !


  • #764
    Widdershins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    tayto lover wrote: »
    26% growth.

    Meaningless when you look at the current state of the A and E departments. Meaningless when we have people using food banks.


  • #765
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    The ASTI must be rubbing their hands with glee, the Government has shown that it will give in to pressure so everyone will be lining up now.

    The senior civil servants were making some noise as well today I heard on the news.

    Ah well at least when the Guards are out around here next summer parked in a boreen to stop the locals cutting turf they will be on better money, it's the only time of the year we see them.

    Deadly work it is.


  • #766
    hawkelady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭hawkelady


    http://theliberal.ie/must-read-a-garda-from-dublin-just-wrote-this-very-powerful-message-on-facebook-which-is-now-going-viral/


  • #767
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,964 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    The ASTI must be rubbing their hands with glee, the Government has shown that it will give in to pressure so everyone will be lining up now.

    The senior civil servants were making some noise as well today I heard on the news.

    Yep, some guy was on the radio news from IMPACT earlier saying that the Government have been banging on about Landsdowne Road being the only game in town, but the decision yesterday is a game changer.

    You could almost hear him rubbing his hands in glee.. it's open season now!!


  • #768
    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,372 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Galwayguy35 wrote:
    The ASTI must be rubbing their hands with glee, the Government has shown that it will give in to pressure so everyone will be lining up now.

    They won't. Half the schools will be open. Most people haven't got kids in secondary schools.

    Everyone fears the impact of not having the police.


  • #769
    gifted
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,226 ✭✭✭gifted


    hawkelady wrote: »
    http://theliberal.ie/must-read-a-garda-from-dublin-just-wrote-this-very-powerful-message-on-facebook-which-is-now-going-viral/


    He's seems to be a very unlucky garda....


  • #770
    opinionated3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    At least he has a well paid, guaranteed pension, and secure job for life. Spare me. What does he want exactly? 3600 euro isn't going to make his job any easier is it? Imo he clearly shouldn't have joined up. Not cut out for it at all. A police officer was killed in new York today. They are paid roughly the same as our guys and girls. Who faces more danger from day to day would you say? ?


  • #771
    Vizzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    opinionated3 wrote: »
    At least he has a well paid, guaranteed pension, and secure job for life. Spare me. What does he want exactly? 3600 euro isn't going to make his job any easier is it? Imo he clearly shouldn't have joined up. Not cut out for it at all. A police officer was killed in new York today. They are paid roughly the same as our guys and girls. Who faces more danger from day to day would you say? ?

    Farmers, apparently.


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  • #772
    Cartouche
    Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭Cartouche


    opinionated3 wrote: »
    At least he has a well paid, guaranteed pension, and secure job for life. Spare me. What does he want exactly? 3600 euro isn't going to make his job any easier is it? Imo he clearly shouldn't have joined up. Not cut out for it at all. A police officer was killed in new York today. They are paid roughly the same as our guys and girls. Who faces more danger from day to day would you say? ?

    They may not be much good with the shootings but they are a dab hand at the aul motoring offences


  • #773
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 19,174 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    opinionated3 wrote: »
    At least he has a well paid, guaranteed pension, and secure job for life. Spare me. What does he want exactly? 3600 euro isn't going to make his job any easier is it? Imo he clearly shouldn't have joined up. Not cut out for it at all. A police officer was killed in new York today. They are paid roughly the same as our guys and girls. Who faces more danger from day to day would you say? ?

    Well I have 3 cousins & one retired uncle in the NYPD.
    All of whom reckon they wouldn't be a Garda in Dublin.
    So, there you go!

    No point comparing police jobs in different countries anyway imo. Look at the huge difference in urban and rural policing in this country.


  • #774
    Donal55
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Donal55


    jimmycrackcorm wrote: »
    They won't. Half the schools will be open. Most people haven't got kids in secondary schools.

    Everyone fears the impact of not having the police.

    50% of schools closed when the rest are open will cause an even bigger problem. Just listen back to da liveline today.


  • #775
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    gifted wrote: »
    He's seems to be a very unlucky garda....

    Probably just a in a busy station for a while.


  • #776
    Going Forward
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,224 ✭✭✭Going Forward


    So €4000 rent allowance is also to be paid to those who aren't renting? Yes/No?

    Fair enough if you can get it I guess.


  • #777
    Donal55
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Donal55


    Going Forward wrote: »
    So €4000 rent allowance is also to be paid to those who aren't renting? Yes/No?

    Fair enough if you can get it I guess.

    Yep. Everyone gets it. Its only the guards that have difficulties paying rents after all.


  • #778
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Donal55 wrote: »
    Yep. Everyone gets it. Its only the guards that have difficulties paying rents after all.

    No, it's only Gardai who are required to work a large distance from home.


  • #779
    Going Forward
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,224 ✭✭✭Going Forward


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    No, it's only Gardai who are required to work a large distance from home.

    But they'll all get it won't they, whether they're renting or not, or living in cars?


  • #780
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Going Forward wrote: »
    But they'll all get it won't they, whether they're renting or not, or living in cars?

    Yes because they'll either have to arrange accommodation near their station or travel a large distance to it. THE rent allowance is a compensation for the regulations that require you live a certain distance from relatives.


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  • #781
    Going Forward
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,224 ✭✭✭Going Forward


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    Yes because they'll either have to arrange accommodation near their station or travel a large distance to it. THE rent allowance is a compensation for the regulations that require you live a certain distance from relatives.

    Thanks; that's what I'd heard.

    A rent allowance is made payable to those who don't rent.

    Bit like the travel allowance for TDs then.

    Do those who receive a plain clothes allowance also get a uniform cleaning and boot allowance similarly, no questions asked?


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