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PSNI Recruitment - Stage 3 - Vetting

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  • #3502
    Sydnor87
    Closed Accounts Posts: 68 ✭✭Sydnor87


    At the risk of being labelled dense, can someone who is going for, or who has already done their PCA help me out?

    The location address they give isn't the same street on google maps. I don't know the town at all so am quite confused.


  • #3503
    Homer01
    Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    Stick the postcode into Google maps and it takes you right there :)


  • #3504
    WannabePC123
    Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭WannabePC123


    Sydnor87 wrote: »
    At the risk of being labelled dense, can someone who is going for, or who has already done their PCA help me out?

    The location address they give isn't the same street on google maps. I don't know the town at all so am quite confused.

    Same as what homer01 said, put the postcode into Google maps and it takes you right there!


  • #3505
    blueboat
    Registered Users Posts: 475 ✭✭blueboat


    yea it does, pop into street view to have a look around before you travel. It should then become obvious.


  • #3506
    Tricop
    Registered Users Posts: 88 ✭✭Tricop


    WannabePC123 wrote: »
    Sydnor87 wrote: »
    At the risk of being labelled dense, can someone who is going for, or who has already done their PCA help me out?

    The location address they give isn't the same street on google maps. I don't know the town at all so am quite confused.

    Same as what homer01 said, put the postcode into Google maps and it takes you right there!
    Yip, use postcode! I used my sat nav for the town's police station and took me to wrong place!! Postcode!


  • #3507
    swl33t
    Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭swl33t


    Tricop wrote: »
    WannabePC123 wrote: »
    Sydnor87 wrote: »
    At the risk of being labelled dense, can someone who is going for, or who has already done their PCA help me out?

    The location address they give isn't the same street on google maps. I don't know the town at all so am quite confused.

    Same as what homer01 said, put the postcode into Google maps and it takes you right there!
    Yip, use postcode! I used my sat nav for the town's police station and took me to wrong place!! Postcode!

    I also did this lol panic ensued


  • #3508
    blueboat
    Registered Users Posts: 475 ✭✭blueboat


    I'd hate to get this far and something like that to mess things up, leave in plenty of time


  • #3509
    Sydnor87
    Closed Accounts Posts: 68 ✭✭Sydnor87


    Tricop wrote: »
    Yip, use postcode! I used my sat nav for the town's police station and took me to wrong place!! Postcode!

    Glad I noticed last night. Thanks to Homer and Bunsen Burner for helping me out and clarifying it for me.


  • #3510
    TheCub
    Registered Users Posts: 187 ✭✭TheCub


    So what happens if vetting expires? Is it a reduced form that needs to be sent in and do they take as long to process it as the original vetting?


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  • #3511
    Bunsen1burner
    Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭Bunsen1burner


    Hey guys just wondering, does the vetting clear after ya complete the medical or can it clear before?


  • #3512
    C3POPO
    Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭C3POPO


    Bunsen1burner wrote: »
    Hey guys just wondering, does the vetting clear after ya complete the medical or can it clear before?
    AFAIK, Vetting excluding Substance Misuse Test (SMT) can clear at any time, it all depends on your past history. The SMT is only taken at the medical and takes one week to clear. If you contact Vetting in advance of your medical and ask about your status, if you are cleared they will tell you that your vetting has completed, so they must consider the paper forms and the SMT two separate clearances, if that makes sense!

    You don't get notified unless they need any more information or you have failed for some reason - you can appeal if this is the case.


  • #3513
    Bunsen1burner
    Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭Bunsen1burner


    C3POPO wrote: »
    AFAIK, Vetting excluding Substance Misuse Test (SMT) can clear at any time, it all depends on your past history. The SMT is only taken at the medical and takes one week to clear. If you contact Vetting in advance of your medical and ask about your status, if you are cleared they will tell you that your vetting has completed, so they must consider the paper forms and the SMT two separate clearances, if that makes sense!

    You don't get notified unless they need any more information or you have failed for some reason - you can appeal if this is the case.

    Thanx very much!!!

    Just another quick question, how do ya contact vetting?


  • #3514
    C3POPO
    Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭C3POPO


    TheCub wrote: »
    So what happens if vetting expires? Is it a reduced form that needs to be sent in and do they take as long to process it as the original vetting?
    Good question, they probably only need to validate the change ie if you have changed address, then they need to make the appropriate checks. If you have been arrested, then I think the check will be a bit more robust :)

    I've heard that when you get the call they ask you if anything has changed (addresses, medical status etc) so I assume they can complete this quite quickly.

    If your vetting forms are in and you are in the waiting room, notify them immediately of any changes so that they can be processed and don't cause any hold ups. The e-mail address was in the vetting form pack.


  • #3515
    TheCub
    Registered Users Posts: 187 ✭✭TheCub


    C3POPO wrote: »
    TheCub wrote: »
    So what happens if vetting expires? Is it a reduced form that needs to be sent in and do they take as long to process it as the original vetting?
    Good question, they probably only need to validate the change ie if you have changed address, then they need to make the appropriate checks. If you have been arrested, then I think the check will be a bit more robust :)

    I've heard that when you get the call they ask you if anything has changed (addresses, medical status etc) so I assume they can complete this quite quickly.

    If your vetting forms are in and you are in the waiting room, notify them immediately of any changes so that they can be processed and don't cause any hold ups. The e-mail address was in the vetting form pack.

    Hopefully the questionnaire isn't anything like before!

    Anyone else any experience of vetting expiring?


  • #3516
    TheCub
    Registered Users Posts: 187 ✭✭TheCub


    C3POPO wrote: »
    TheCub wrote: »
    So what happens if vetting expires? Is it a reduced form that needs to be sent in and do they take as long to process it as the original vetting?
    Good question, they probably only need to validate the change ie if you have changed address, then they need to make the appropriate checks. If you have been arrested, then I think the check will be a bit more robust :)

    I've heard that when you get the call they ask you if anything has changed (addresses, medical status etc) so I assume they can complete this quite quickly.

    If your vetting forms are in and you are in the waiting room, notify them immediately of any changes so that they can be processed and don't cause any hold ups. The e-mail address was in the vetting form pack.

    Hopefully the questionnaire isn't anything like before!

    Anyone else any experience of vetting expiring?


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  • #3517
    Lynxbro
    Registered Users Posts: 48 ✭Lynxbro


    Well I put my vetting in around April or so and it's still outstanding. So I don't think mine will elapse that's for sure!


  • #3518
    Tackleberry1
    Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭Tackleberry1


    Just rang recruitment and my vetting has cleared, the relief!


  • #3519
    Pottergirl16
    Registered Users Posts: 150 ✭✭Pottergirl16


    Does anyone know the process if you fail vetting? I know it can be appealed but does it affect future applications? If anyone has been through this Id appreciate any advice. Please feel free to send me a pm.


  • #3520
    C3POPO
    Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭C3POPO


    Pottergirl16 wrote: »
    Does anyone know the process if you fail vetting? I know it can be appealed but does it affect future applications? If anyone has been through this Id appreciate any advice. Please feel free to send me a pm.
    I haven't been through the appeal process, so don't have any direct knowledge. In my opinion, I would think that the issue would only affect future applications if you failed your appeal and the issue was still present at the time of your future application. If you appeal and you are successful, I don't see why it would affect any future application, as they would have it on record that your appeal was successful and you would also be wise to include the details in your future application.

    They do ask for previous UID numbers in the vetting forms (as you probably saw), so they maybe check previous applications possibly to reduce the amount they have to do for a current application, but maybe to make sure you are submitting the same information on both!


  • #3521
    D4z
    Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭D4z


    I went through the appeal process on my medical. I basically had to get enough evidence to overrule the original decision, I got a professional and expert opinion that ruled against the original decision.

    I would imagine it would depend on the reason behind the failure. For example if you failed to disclose information, that would only affect the current application compared to if you served a sentence in jail. That would rule you out as you cannot change that regardless of what you do.

    It really depends on the circumstances behind it.


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  • #3522
    Razor3677
    Closed Accounts Posts: 52 ✭✭Razor3677


    Hey folks

    I'll be applying for the first first time in the next recruitment campaign, however I am concerned about vetting. I come from a large family and I am not in contact with the majority of them, would i have to contact all of them to see if they have any convictions etc or is it just immediate family ?

    Many thanks


  • #3523
    Legally clueless
    Closed Accounts Posts: 158 ✭✭Legally clueless


    Razor3677 wrote: »
    Hey folks

    I'll be applying for the first first time in the next recruitment campaign, however I am concerned about vetting. I come from a large family and I am not in contact with the majority of them, would i have to contact all of them to see if they have any convictions etc or is it just immediate family ?

    Many thanks

    If you are as open and honest as you can then I'm sure you will be fine.
    I


  • #3524
    BigEye2016
    Registered Users Posts: 19 ✭BigEye2016


    Razor3677 wrote: »
    Hey folks

    I'll be applying for the first first time in the next recruitment campaign, however I am concerned about vetting. I come from a large family and I am not in contact with the majority of them, would i have to contact all of them to see if they have any convictions etc or is it just immediate family ?

    Many thanks
    Hi razor,
    Names and addresses of parents and siblings for past 10 years. No need to document their convictions as far as I can remember.


  • #3525
    Tackleberry1
    Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭Tackleberry1


    Immediate family and Co-habitants is all you need as far as I know, and no need to document their convictions.


  • #3526
    C3POPO
    Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭C3POPO


    Just received a "Change Of Circumstances Questionnaire" through the post - letter states that this is required to prevent expiry of my vetting clearance. Basically asks for a Yes/No for most of the categories that were asked about in the main forms - if anything has changed, put Yes and then give details. Only 7 pages long this time :)

    I'll be like - no, no, no, no, no, no, no, post :)


  • #3527
    Psni26
    Registered Users Posts: 201 ✭✭Psni26


    Are you in 1405 C3POPO?


  • #3528
    C3POPO
    Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭C3POPO


    Psni26 wrote: »
    Are you in 1405 C3POPO?
    Yes. I am actually in both campaigns but the letter didn't have a UID, so I am assuming it is for 1405, but it could be for both, I don't know


  • #3529
    Psni26
    Registered Users Posts: 201 ✭✭Psni26


    yea either way would be good for you! I'm in 1405 so hopefully I have one too!


  • #3530
    C3POPO
    Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭C3POPO


    Psni26 wrote: »
    yea either way would be good for you! I'm in 1405 so hopefully I have one too!
    Yeah, you should definitely have one - they will want to get the 1405 ones in first as we will be in the January intake!


  • #3531
    coolhand50
    Registered Users Posts: 45 ✭coolhand50


    God I hope you guys are correct. I'm 1405 and in dire need of some good news! Lol


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  • #3532
    Nerves2016
    Registered Users Posts: 98 ✭✭Nerves2016


    With the thought/possibility of movement again in the campaign , would it be wrong if I was finally getting excited :)
    It's been doom and gloom on boards for quite some time!


  • #3533
    swl33t
    Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭swl33t


    I am excited on your behalf lol


  • #3534
    Psni26
    Registered Users Posts: 201 ✭✭Psni26


    Yea it's nice to have some positivity! lol would be crappy if your circumstances have changed for anyone hopefully wouldnt have a further hold up!


  • #3535
    C3POPO
    Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭C3POPO


    Nerves2016 wrote: »
    With the thought/possibility of movement again in the campaign , would it be wrong if I was finally getting excited :)
    It's been doom and gloom on boards for quite some time!
    If the negatives get you down, then make sure you let the positive news bring you up! Ride that roller coaster!!!! :):)


  • #3536
    hopeful2017
    Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭hopeful2017


    Was wondering is Smt separate from vetting? If your vetting has cleared do you need to wait on word that the smt has passed before everything has passed altogether or is it part of it?


  • #3537
    WannabePC123
    Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭WannabePC123


    hopeful2017 wrote: »
    Was wondering is Smt separate from vetting? If your vetting has cleared do you need to wait on word that the smt has passed before everything has passed altogether or is it part of it?

    I've heard mixed responses to this question. However my smt was passed a few days before my vetting!


  • #3538
    hopeful2017
    Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭hopeful2017


    How did you find out wannabe? Did you ring or did they contact you?

    When I rang I was told I had passed everything., well all 5 stages?


  • #3539
    WannabePC123
    Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭WannabePC123


    hopeful2017 wrote: »
    How did you find out wannabe? Did you ring or did they contact you?

    When I rang I was told I had passed everything., well all 5 stages?

    Yeah I just rang them! I specifically asked if I had passed my smt and vetting and then they said smt passed but vetting still processing. Then a few days later I rang and all was passed.


  • #3540
    Homer01
    Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    Now's your chance to delete those dodgy Facebook pics or at the very least sort out those privacy settings!!


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  • #3541
    Timetravel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Timetravel


    Homer01 wrote: »
    Now's your chance to delete those dodgy Facebook pics or at the very least sort out those privacy settings!!

    You joking? I thought they only creeped on that stuff before GV


  • #3542
    Pumba91
    Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭Pumba91


    Anyone know if they check your siblings social media?


  • #3543
    Homer01
    Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    Timetravel wrote: »
    You joking? I thought they only creeped on that stuff before GV

    I honestly don't know but it'll do no harm to tighten those privacy settings.

    If I worked in vetting I'd certainly Google your name or stick it in Facebook; NI is a small place.

    I wouldn't put too much focus of things like that though certainly not siblings or what friends post.


  • #3544
    Timetravel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Timetravel


    I've seen a few people in the past say about the financial stuff on the vetting, does anyone know if a student loan would come under this? cause I always fire that stuff in the bin!


  • #3545
    alphaquebec4
    Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭alphaquebec4


    Timetravel wrote: »
    I've seen a few people in the past say about the financial stuff on the vetting, does anyone know if a student loan would come under this? cause I always fire that stuff in the bin!

    Don't worry about that Timetravel they don't look at that


  • #3546
    Timetravel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Timetravel


    alphaquebec4 wrote: »
    Don't worry about that Timetravel they don't look at that

    Thanks!


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  • #3547
    PotentialPC
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭PotentialPC


    Hi everyone, long time reader first time poster. Wondering if anyone could give me some advice?

    In regards to home addresses, ive been living with my girlfriend for around a year now in her house. The house is in her name and i guess technically my legal address is still my parents house.

    What way would I handle this on the vetting forms? Surely someone has been in a similar situation and can offer some help.

    :)


  • #3548
    Lynxbro
    Registered Users Posts: 48 ✭Lynxbro


    PotentialPC wrote: »
    Hi everyone, long time reader first time poster. Wondering if anyone could give me some advice?

    In regards to home addresses, ive been living with my girlfriend for around a year now in her house. The house is in her name and i guess technically my legal address is still my parents house.

    What way would I handle this on the vetting forms? Surely someone has been in a similar situation and can offer some help.

    :)

    As far as I can remember u need to declare anybody u are In a relationship with so you are better off putting it down and mentioning that in the notes section :).


  • #3549
    PotentialPC
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭PotentialPC


    Thanks :)

    I wasn't planning on pretending she didnt exist lol but im more interested in what way I should go about it as like i say i technically still live at home, but i dont if you know what i mean?


  • #3550
    Homer01
    Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    PotentialPC wrote: »
    Hi everyone, long time reader first time poster. Wondering if anyone could give me some advice?

    In regards to home addresses, ive been living with my girlfriend for around a year now in her house. The house is in her name and i guess technically my legal address is still my parents house.

    What way would I handle this on the vetting forms? Surely someone has been in a similar situation and can offer some help.

    :)

    I would put both down. If you don't and they find out it will end in tears.


  • #3551
    Smilo89
    Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭Smilo89


    PotentialPC wrote: »
    Hi everyone, long time reader first time poster. Wondering if anyone could give me some advice?

    In regards to home addresses, ive been living with my girlfriend for around a year now in her house. The house is in her name and i guess technically my legal address is still my parents house.

    What way would I handle this on the vetting forms? Surely someone has been in a similar situation and can offer some help.

    :)
    I am currently not in my own house that I am registered to due to work being carried out, I am in rented. I just stated in the notes section the reason behind it. So as long as you give an explanation you'll be fine :)


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