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Eir rural FTTH thread

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  • #1952
    JohnC.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,562 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    Any chance of the sale of eir throwing a spanner in the works? I suppose they're probably too far into the plan now.


  • #1953
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,396 ✭✭✭rob808


    JohnC. wrote: »
    Any chance of the sale of eir throwing a spanner in the works? I suppose they're probably too far into the plan now.
    It unlikely at moment plus there waiting on seeing if they win any of the NBP.


  • #1954
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,428 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Eir line checker is updated again.

    This time around the Fiber Extreme message and Eircode checker is gone from all lines and is showing 'Although your area is enabled for eir Fibre broadband, it hasn't reached your address yet'

    below this is an image and a button 'chat to an agent'. It's even showing this for people who can get up to 100mb FTTC and ADSL/FTTC packages no longer showing.


  • #1955
    cabledude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 842 ✭✭✭cabledude


    Built a house 9 years ago. Got the phone line in hoping that I could get broadband. When I contacted Eircom they told me that the local exchange was not upgraded yet. Its the Adamstown, Wexford exchange. ANyone know of any maps or places I can look to see if it has been updated yet?


  • #1956
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    cabledude wrote: »
    Built a house 9 years ago. Got the phone line in hoping that I could get broadband. When I contacted Eircom they told me that the local exchange was not upgraded yet. Its the Adamstown, Wexford exchange. ANyone know of any maps or places I can look to see if it has been updated yet?

    http://www.openeir.ie/Our_Network/#nga-map

    Zoom in until you can see blue or green dots.


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  • #1957
    murphaph
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,991 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    cabledude wrote: »
    Built a house 9 years ago. Got the phone line in hoping that I could get broadband. When I contacted Eircom they told me that the local exchange was not upgraded yet. Its the Adamstown, Wexford exchange. ANyone know of any maps or places I can look to see if it has been updated yet?
    http://www.openeir.ie/Our_Network/ (nga Map). Look promising for FTTH there in the next year or 2.


  • #1958
    cabledude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 842 ✭✭✭cabledude


    murphaph wrote: »
    http://www.openeir.ie/Our_Network/ (nga Map). Look promising for FTTH there in the next year or 2.
    2017-2020. Or 3 or 4!

    Will be worth waiting on however. I'm on Vodafone 4g at the minute. Costing me €60 per month for 150Gb limit. Speeds are not great and it gets slow enough in the evening time.


  • #1959
    murphaph
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    cabledude wrote: »
    2017-2020. Or 3 or 4!

    Will be worth waiting on however. I'm on Vodafone 4g at the minute. Costing me €60 per month for 150Gb limit. Speeds are not great and it gets slow enough in the evening time.
    Eir says it'll have all those blue lines done by 2018. Make of that what you will. It's definitely better being "on a blue line" than not!


  • #1960
    damienirel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭damienirel


    murphaph wrote: »
    Eir says it'll have all those blue lines done by 2018. Make of that what you will. It's definitely better being "on a blue line" than not!
    Well I make marketing lies out of it!


  • #1961
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,086 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    murphaph wrote: »
    Eir says it'll have all those blue lines done by 2018. Make of that what you will. It's definitely better being "on a blue line" than not!

    Was that not 'open eir' which would imply the fibre will be in place in that time period?

    I reckon that is not unmanageable.


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  • #1962
    murphaph
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,991 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    Was that not 'open eir' which would imply the fibre will be in place in that time period?

    I reckon that is not unmanageable.
    Yeah I reckon they have a good enough idea of the challenges involved now to call it. I expect a lot more uptake of ftth in these areas than VDSL in urban areas because in urban areas ADSL often wasn't too bad or bad enough to force most casual users to upgrade and also UPC often offered alternatives. Assuming uptake is much higher it might take a while to actually get an appointment for the install.


  • #1963
    Shyboy
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    So, now that we are into November, I wonder will there be any updates for us soon regarding the next batch of FTTH exchanges/areas to go live?


  • #1964
    Gwynston
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    I wouldn't hold your breath....


  • #1965
    Gonzo
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    Shyboy wrote: »
    So, now that we are into November, I wonder will there be any updates for us soon regarding the next batch of FTTH exchanges/areas to go live?

    I doubt there will be any more live exchanges between now and end of January, Raheen in County Offaly might go live since it was supposed to be live on October 12th but missed it's date.

    In Dunshaughlin there was some work on the Dunshaughlin-Ratoath road, it was ducting work similar to what went on at my road last April. Marcel posted that there was some fiber on poles along the Batterstown-Trim road, but I haven't seen fiber on poles anywhere else in the Dunshaughlin exchange area. Unless there is a sudden update on the Open Eir map looks like we'll all be waiting into 2017 to enjoy our new connections.


  • #1966
    damienirel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭damienirel


    Gonzo wrote: »
    I doubt there will be any more live exchanges between now and end of January, Raheen in County Offaly might go live since it was supposed to be live on October 12th but missed it's date.

    In Dunshaughlin there was some work on the Dunshaughlin-Ratoath road, it was ducting work similar to what went on at my road last April. Marcel posted that there was some fiber on poles along the Batterstown-Trim road, but I haven't seen fiber on poles anywhere else in the Dunshaughlin exchange area. Unless there is a sudden update on the Open Eir map looks like we'll all be waiting into 2017 to enjoy our new connections.

    So you reckon 3 months and Eir are just going to sit it out? Certainly looks that way!


  • #1967
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,428 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    damienirel wrote: »
    So you reckon 3 months and Eir are just going to sit it out? Certainly looks that way!

    they are not sitting it out, they are still doing preparation stages in many areas and things are obviously going way slower than expected. They are also hiring extra teams to get the project moving quicker. Hopefully they will hit the ground running after New Year's Day with an increased number of teams and much more widespread progress.

    When I say that it will be 2017 before the majority of us start using the service, im referring to the amount of time that passes between an area being wired up and customers using the connection for first time, there is about a 4 week wait after an area is wired up before anything can be ordered and then maybe a week or 2 weeks for the guys to call over and connect you up, so your looking at a minimum 5 to 6 weeks after your line is wired up. It's now start of November and nothing is gonna happen in the second half of December. Im sure some places will get wired up between now and Christmas but they wont be live till the waiting period is over.


  • #1968
    Shyboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Shyboy


    Gonzo wrote: »
    they are not sitting it out, they are still doing preparation stages in many areas and things are obviously going way slower than expected. They are also hiring extra teams to get the project moving quicker. Hopefully they will hit the ground running after New Year's Day with an increased number of teams and much more widespread progress.

    When I say that it will be 2017 before the majority of us start using the service, im referring to the amount of time that passes between an area being wired up and customers using the connection for first time, there is about a 4 week wait after an area is wired up before anything can be ordered and then maybe a week or 2 weeks for the guys to call over and connect you up, so your looking at a minimum 5 to 6 weeks after your line is wired up. It's now start of November and nothing is gonna happen in the second half of December. Im sure some places will get wired up between now and Christmas but they wont be live till the waiting period is over.

    Is there definitely a 4 week wait before the product can be ordered? :eek:


  • #1969
    Johnboy1951
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    Shyboy wrote: »
    Is there definitely a 4 week wait before the product can be ordered? :eek:

    They are required to give other providers 4 weeks notice to allow them to compete.
    They cannot do installs during that period.


  • #1970
    Shyboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Shyboy


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    They are required to give other providers 4 weeks notice to allow them to compete.
    They cannot do installs during that period.

    Aah...I see...I didn't know that...:(


  • #1971
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    The map has been updated. Some more areas with dates added:

    All the 16th of November:
    Ballyboden (Dublin)
    Ballyclough (Cork)
    Belcarra (Mayo)
    Bray (Wicklow) (Not in Rural Rollout)
    Courtown Harbour (Wexford)
    Dungloe (Donegal)

    Rahan in Offaly is partially live with 150 premises passed.

    I didn't have time to check the map for slipped dates. I'll do that later.


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  • #1972
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,428 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »
    The map has been updated. Some more areas with dates added:

    All the 16th of November:
    Ballyboden (Dublin)
    Ballyclough (Cork)
    Belcarra (Mayo)
    Bray (Wicklow) (Not in Rural Rollout)
    Courtown Harbour (Wexford)
    Dungloe (Donegal)

    Rahan in Offaly is partially live with 150 premises passed.

    I didn't have time to check the map for slipped dates. I'll do that later.

    Rahan is half done, 150/300 premises
    good to see a little bit of progress.

    Perhaps a few more places will go partially live before Friday 23rd December.

    Edit: have spotted some slipages with dates first live 2017/2018.


  • #1973
    niallb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,775 ✭✭✭niallb


    I see Belcarra is in that list there.
    Surely that was the pilot rural fibre scheme with 70 addresses set up in May 2015.
    Perhaps that's just gone from pilot to live now, but it might not be fresh fibre.

    Pilot scheme brings fast broadband delights to Belcarra -Irish Examiner 28th May 2015


  • #1974
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    niallb wrote: »
    I see Belcarra is in that list there.
    Surely that was the pilot rural fibre scheme with 70 addresses set up in May 2015.
    Perhaps that's just gone from pilot to live now, but it might not be fresh fibre.

    Pilot scheme brings fast broadband delights to Belcarra -Irish Examiner 28th May 2015

    Perhaps they have extended the footprint slightly.

    As an aside, are you in the Tara area? It got a live date for FTTC of the 23rd of November.


  • #1975
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,428 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    in Meath the following have slipped:

    Batterstown: Spring 2017
    OldCastle: 2017/2018
    Slane: 2017/2018
    Kilcock: 2017/2018

    Edit: some fo the 2017/2018 dates are new dates but 2017/2018 is so vague they could be waiting up to 2 years.


  • #1976
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    Gonzo wrote: »
    in Meath the following have slipped:

    Batterstown: Spring 2017
    OldCastle: 2017/2018
    Slane: 2017/2018
    Kilcock: 2017/2018

    Edit: some fo the 2017/2018 dates are new dates but 2017/2018 is so vague they could be waiting up to 2 years.

    Were they all not originally 2017 - 2020? They just changed the 2020 to 2018 as per their recent announcement.


  • #1977
    niallb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,775 ✭✭✭niallb


    Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »
    Perhaps they have extended the footprint slightly.

    As an aside, are you in the Tara area? It got a live date for FTTC of the 23rd of November.

    Doesn't matter - most of us here are so far from the exchange, nothing except FTTH will work. We've never had DSL/ADSL/VDSL here. nowt!

    I'm the last house on the blue line, and I'm more than 12km by cable from that cabinet :-(

    That said, the site also has a date for FTTH. Let's see how that goes!

    Estimated date for first Live Fibre Services is 23 November 2016.
    Estimated date for first Live FTTH Fibre Services is Spring 2017


  • #1978
    tsue921i8wljb3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    niallb wrote: »
    Doesn't matter - most of us here are so far from the exchange, nothing except FTTH will work. We've never had DSL/ADSL/VDSL here. nowt!

    I'm the last house on the blue line, and I'm more than 12km by cable from that cabinet :-(

    Sorry about that. I thought you might be closer.


  • #1979
    Gonzo
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    Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »
    Were they all not originally 2017 - 2020? They just changed the 2020 to 2018 as per their recent announcement.

    fairly certain Oldcastle was down for h2 2017. Batterstown moved from Winter 2016/Spring 2017 to Spring 2017. Like most exchanges Batterstown was originally listed as Autumn/Winter 2016 so it's been put back twice.

    Most of the 2017-2020s are still there.


  • #1980
    long_b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭long_b


    The spreadsheet has history if you're curious and you're in updating it


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  • #1981
    damienirel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭damienirel


    long_b wrote: »
    The spreadsheet has history if you're curious and you're in updating it

    Would be nice to be updating with early completions instead of slippages.


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