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ZV numbers to exceed 100000!

  • 29-10-2016 9:03am
    #1
    Silvera
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭


    I'm currently mulling over the idea of applying for a 'ZV' plate to replace a 'Year' plate. I was just looking at 'VRT 35' form and spotted that the 'Official Use' section has 'ZV' folllowed by 6 x blank spaces.

    Just as I predicted, the powers-that-be view 'ZZ' (temporary) plates and 'ZV' plates in the same light - 'ZZ' plates exceeded 100000 some years ago.

    Looks like 'ZV 100000'+ is coming our way in the forseeable future! :rolleyes:

    Click on the first search result to view form -
    https://www.google.ie/search?q=google&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&gws_rd=ssl#q=VRT35+form


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  • #2
    hi5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,107 ✭✭✭hi5


    Was there any movement on the IVVCC negotiations to re issue old numbers...

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=80608731


  • #3
    Means Of Escape
    Registered Users Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭Means Of Escape


    Apply for county plate and if they change the zv codology then you can opt to change it
    If you take the bs zv number now you are married to it
    Besides if you ever sell it the buyer can have the option


  • #4
    Silvera
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭Silvera


    Means Of Escape wrote: »
    Apply for county plate and if they change the zv codology then you can opt to change it
    If you take the bs zv number now you are married to it
    Besides if you ever sell it the buyer can have the option

    Thats what I've also considered, i.e. stick with the 'Year' plate for now - in the hope that some better age-related system might unfold. Though I'm not holding my breath for such a scenario :rolleyes:

    On the other hand, there are a few nice 'ZV' combinations (albeit 7-digit combinations) coming up in the near future which 'tickle my fancy'! :pac:


  • #5
    Silvera
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭Silvera


    hi5 wrote: »
    Was there any movement on the IVVCC negotiations to re issue old numbers...

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=80608731

    I contacted the gentleman, who posted the IVVCC survey in the above thread, a couple of times about the status of any 'negotiations', but received no reply:confused:

    Btw, excellent work on that list of unissued registrations in the above thread hi5!! :)


  • #6
    Silvera
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭Silvera


    The future of ZV plates? ....


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  • #7
    kyote00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭kyote00


    Wow....does that mean there are 100,000 vintage cars in Ireland - seems like an awful lot ?


  • #8
    Thinkingaboutit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭Thinkingaboutit


    A year plate might be better. I noticed an electric car of around 1899 at the Terenure show a few years ago. It had a '99 D plate or similar. :P


  • #9
    RandomAccess
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭RandomAccess


    Theres various imported Mercedes around that are in hipster hands.
    I'd say a lot of the recent imports came from that sort of customer, who knows if they will keep them longterm though.


  • #10
    Type 17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Type 17


    kyote00 wrote: »
    Wow....does that mean there are 100,000 vintage cars in Ireland - seems like an awful lot ?

    Plates between ZV 1 and ZV 99999 have (mostly) been broken down into ranges and assigned to the various counties around Ireland, but not all have been issued yet. Although many Irish classics are on YY-CC-NNN (year, county, serial number) plates, even the total of these and all the ZV's isn't near 100,000 yet, especially when you take into account the ZV's that have been scrapped/re-exported.

    However, when a county reaches the end of its assigned 5-digit range, they will have to issue 6-digit ZV ranges, or do something else ("nnnn ZV" and "nnnnn ZV", for example).


  • #11
    carchaeologist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


    Just buy a taxbook. It's all the fashion nowadays.


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  • #12
    Silvera
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭Silvera


    carchaeologist wrote: »
    Just buy a taxbook. It's all the fashion nowadays.

    :D

    ...just in case anybody thinks you're being serious! :pac: ;)


  • #13
    mb1725
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭mb1725


    Low number ZV tax books will be valuable shortly! ;):D


  • #14
    Type 17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Type 17


    mb1725 wrote: »
    Low number ZV tax books will be valuable shortly! ;):D

    I made a point of finding and importing a classic in 2010 as I could see that the end of the "genuine" 4-digit ZV's was coming up - I got ZV 96nn.

    Talking of things getting more valuable, when I brought back my daily driver from the UK in 1999 it got given 82-D-2nnn, which at the time I thought looked vile. These days it looks a lot better than 82-D-120nnn :pac:


  • #15
    Silvera
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭Silvera


    Type 17 wrote: »
    I made a point of finding and importing a classic in 2010 as I could see that the end of the "genuine" 4-digit ZV's was coming up - I got ZV 96nn.

    Talking of things getting more valuable, when I brought back my daily driver from the UK in 1999 it got given 82-D-2nnn, which at the time I thought looked vile. These days it looks a lot better than 82-D-120nnn :pac:

    Dublin currently has the "best" 'ZV' plates (in the 10000 range) and the "worst" 'Year' plates (in the 120000 range)!


  • #16
    carchaeologist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


    Dublin has now passed in the last few weeks into the ZV11000 range, nice and tight on a plate of you are trying to get sizes and spacing somewhat authentic looking.


  • #17
    duskyjoe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 643 ✭✭✭duskyjoe


    In the meantime I notice any older mercs not in the ZV range but old enough are all given a 120000 number i.e. 87D120021 etc.


  • #18
    Type 17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Type 17


    duskyjoe wrote: »
    In the meantime I notice any older mercs not in the ZV range but old enough are all given a 120000 number i.e. 87D120021 etc.

    Yes, all imports registered in any year before 2011 will get yy-D-120000+ (or yy-C-40000+, etc), unless they are 30 years old or more, and the owner chooses a ZV.


  • #19
    duskyjoe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 643 ✭✭✭duskyjoe


    Thanks for that, I genuinely thought it was mercs just getting a hard time with these reg plates.


  • #20
    Type 17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Type 17


    duskyjoe wrote: »
    Thanks for that, I genuinely thought it was mercs just getting a hard time with these reg plates.

    No, those plates can wreck the look of any make of car :pac:


  • #21
    carcrazykieran
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭carcrazykieran


    In the latter part of this year I got a zv reg for a UK import and an older 84WW import.

    ZV 10924 and ZV 19055

    I got them printed ZV1 0924 and ZV1 0955

    They don't look as bad with the spacing. I would post a photo but I'm not up at 25 posts yet.


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  • #22
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    carcrazykieran wrote: »
    In the latter part of this year I got a zv reg for a UK import and an older 84WW import.

    ZV 10924 and ZV 19055

    I got them printed ZV1 0924 and ZV1 0955

    They don't look as bad with the spacing. I would post a photo but I'm not up at 25 posts yet.
    I had half- heartedly been following the progression of plates in the hope of getting 10924 for my, you guessed it, 924. (I still have the year plate). Kinda bummed now I was so busy this year I forgot about it!

    What kind of car is wearing it?


  • #23
    carcrazykieran
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭carcrazykieran


    1982 Lotus Esprit S3.

    I don't think they are transferable but if they are I've no attachment to the number your welcome to it. As it will be a few years before she gets on the road. There is a Mini a head of her for restoration.


  • #24
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Cheers, carcrazykieran!

    You're right I don't think they are transferable (if it was I'd be tempted!).

    Good luck with the Esprit. One of the coolest cars from my youth would love one someday. Serious wow factor when you see one in modern traffic. :)


  • #25
    carcrazykieran
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭carcrazykieran


    Yes even in its current state it has the wow factor. 4 years to get the paperwork a lot of hassle but it was worth it.


  • #26
    Silvera
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭Silvera


    carcrazykieran wrote: »
    Yes even in its current state it has the wow factor. 4 years to get the paperwork a lot of hassle but it was worth it.

    As a matter of interest, was the 4-year wait in order to get an export cert from the DVLA in Swansea?


  • #27
    Skommando
    Registered Users Posts: 638 ✭✭✭Skommando


    utterly stupid system, the old county reg's could easily be used.


  • #28
    Thinkingaboutit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭Thinkingaboutit


    Thankfully I've four digits, but then I got my 16/60 ten year ago.


  • #29
    carcrazykieran
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭carcrazykieran


    Yes DVLA refused 1st car was not on there system. No registration or paper work with car when I bought it. Got the old registration via Lotus build sheets. Transpires the car had been stolen 20 plus years ago. Strangely motorcheck had it listed with original registration under the new colour not factory colour. After and inspection of behalf of the DVLA via the PSNI and Garda the car was verified. The insurance company was notified but deemed it unworthy to re-export the DVLA reinstated the lost car on their data Base and the export document was released. It was actually 3 years not 4. On the 8th July 3 years to the day I bought her I brought her to the nct center on a trailer and a week later received my zv registration.


  • #30
    maestroamado
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    carcrazykieran wrote: »
    In the latter part of this year I got a zv reg for a UK import and an older 84WW import.

    ZV 10924 and ZV 19055

    I got them printed ZV1 0924 and ZV1 0955

    They don't look as bad with the spacing. I would post a photo but I'm not up at 25 posts yet.

    Just curious about this as i got number 55xxx as i not know off-hand.
    I cannot understand how you got two numbers 10xxx.
    Also people are saying the numbers nearly up to 100000.
    Is there an option where we can choose a number?

    thanks


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  • #31
    carcrazykieran
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭carcrazykieran


    It was two registerations for two cars.


  • #32
    maestroamado
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    Crazy,

    I understand the two reg.
    The original post mentioned ZV 100000.
    Then others said Dublin had reached ZV 11000.
    I then get reg ZV 55000.
    I then see you get ZV 1OOOO and 10000 for two cars.
    I thought there was just one ZV reg for whole country.
    I then see big differences in reg you get and what i get at around the same time so i am very confused with it all.

    Thanks


  • #33
    Type 17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Type 17


    The ZV range from ZV1 to ZV99999 has been split up into ranges and assigned to each county.

    You got 55nnn because that range is assigned to the county where you live (Leitrim).

    Actually, here is a useful post from macplaxton, showing the ranges assigned to each county: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056460411


  • #34
    maestroamado
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    17, thanks for that as it now makes sense..


  • #35
    carcrazykieran
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭carcrazykieran


    Type 17

    That's a handy list. Thanks.

    Maestro sorry I wasn't clearer.

    Happy New Year.


  • #36
    Type 17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,731 ✭✭✭Type 17


    carcrazykieran wrote: »
    That's a handy list. Thanks.

    It is, and I've bookmarked it myself, but the thanks should go to macplaxton :)


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  • #37
    macplaxton
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 2,957 Mod ✭✭✭✭macplaxton


    I've got a revised list of that somewhere on my computer after the Revenue bump of 2011 (aka Dublin 120001). All the ZVs missed a handful out.


  • #38
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,585 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    The tricky part is what if your car is registered to one county, and you live in another!

    Eg: 80CWXXX to ZV for Carlow or Dublin (where I live)


  • #39
    hi5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,107 ✭✭✭hi5


    I would guess you get the sequence of the county of your current address, so technically you are changing the county on your car, not that any one will notice.


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