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Logan **Spoilers from post 212**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail


    There's a fashion in film title for lots of captions, but the backlash against it "The Batman", "The Wolverine", "Logan", "John Carter", "John Wick", "Jack Reacher", "Victor Frankenstein", "Robin Hood", "Rocky Balboa", etc. are nearly as tiresome. Maybe there was a time that title would look like a statement of intent, but now I just picture some gob****e in a pitch meeting talking about going back to basics, finding out who the protagonist really is...

    Okay, rant over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,376 ✭✭✭Tefral


    They keep going on about the use of Old Man Logan, however that storyline is impossible without the hulk and hawkeye.

    Remains to be seen what leaks out over this.. I am looking forward to it. I cant help it being a big comic book fan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    mikhail wrote: »
    Maybe there was a time that title would look like a statement of intent, but now I just picture some gob****e in a pitch meeting talking about going back to basics, finding out who the protagonist really is...

    Particularly when it's the second time, in a row, doing so for the same character / series.

    Always potential though with these films. Usually squandered, but always potential.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    ay8jpwM_700b_v1.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,889 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    please dont kill Wolverine:(:(:(:(:(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,514 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    http://www.thewrap.com/logan-wolverine-3-key-roles-revealed-exclusive/
    Richard E. Grant to play Dr. Zander Rice, Boyd Holbrook to play Donald Pierce and Sienna Novikov to play mutant Laura


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    please dont kill Wolverine:(:(:(:(:(
    you don't read the comics do you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,889 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Tigger wrote: »
    you don't read the comics do you

    No


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    please dont kill Wolverine:(:(:(:(:(

    It's either that or try and recast. I think they need to step back from Wolverine for a bit now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    FunLover18 wrote: »
    It's either that or try and recast. I think they need to step back from Wolverine for a bit now.

    Agreed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,232 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    If Fox are intending to keep the X-Men movies, just reboot the entire thing. The timeline and characters have become so screwed up by this point that all these soft reboots by changing timelines etc are making things far worse, not better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,032 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Image:
    Stephen Merchant as Caliban, a mutant ally who's helping Logan take care of an elderly Professor X.

    Death has this much to be said for it:
    You don’t have to get out of bed for it.
    Wherever you happen to be
    They bring it to you—free.

    — Kingsley Amis



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    bnt wrote: »
    Image:
    Stephen Merchant as Caliban, a mutant ally who's helping Logan take care of an elderly Professor X.

    Wow, weird all around. Does this mean
    Patrick Stewart [misleading spoiler length]
    will appear?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,232 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Wow, weird all around. Does this mean
    Patrick Stewart [misleading spoiler length]
    will appear?
    Yes, they released a picture of him a few weeks back
    http://cdn2-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/2016/10/profxheader.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Penn wrote: »
    Yes, they released a picture of him a few weeks back
    http://cdn2-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/2016/10/profxheader.jpg

    Wow, totally missed that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,887 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Trailer



  • Registered Users Posts: 690 ✭✭✭Gingervitis


    Spanish Trailer with juicy 18s scene at the end (1.26):


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭blue note


    Does anyone else think Hugh jackman is a bit old at this stage to play him? Granted in the comics I believe he's supposed to be a bit dishevelled so in some ways he's more suitable now than ever, but I think he's a bit old to be playing the same wolverine that's he's always played.

    It might work if he's playing a withered wolverine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,232 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    blue note wrote: »
    Does anyone else think Hugh jackman is a bit old at this stage to play him? Granted in the comics I believe he's supposed to be a bit dishevelled so in some ways he's more suitable now than ever, but I think he's a bit old to be playing the same wolverine that's he's always played.

    It might work if he's playing a withered wolverine.

    Well, yeah, the whole point of this film is that he's now older and he's aging more. This film is set a number of years after the previous films.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,396 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    blue note wrote: »
    Does anyone else think Hugh jackman is a bit old at this stage to play him? Granted in the comics I believe he's supposed to be a bit dishevelled so in some ways he's more suitable now than ever, but I think he's a bit old to be playing the same wolverine that's he's always played.

    It might work if he's playing a withered wolverine.

    Wolverine looks like he's supposed to be pretty withered in this, Jackman looked more suited to the part in The Wolverine and Day of Future Past than he ever did imo. Not sure about that beard though.

    Trailer looks good, you would be forgiven for not realising it's an x-men film at all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,376 ✭✭✭Tefral


    blue note wrote: »
    Does anyone else think Hugh jackman is a bit old at this stage to play him? Granted in the comics I believe he's supposed to be a bit dishevelled so in some ways he's more suitable now than ever, but I think he's a bit old to be playing the same wolverine that's he's always played.

    It might work if he's playing a withered wolverine.

    He is modeled off the "Old Man Logan" storyline.

    667377-2871541966_d27626ffd2.jpg


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Looks good, if a little downbeat; not sure how I feel about
    a destitute & ageing Professor X & what seems like his dying (putting 2 and 2 together based on what appears like Logan burying somebody)
    .

    The Fox X-Men universe's timeline is so broken I'm not even going to try and speculate how this will all fit into things. To the point where maybe the safest approach is to assume every X-Men film is set within its own universe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,514 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Wolverine looks like he's supposed to be pretty withered in this, Jackman looked more suited to the part in The Wolverine and Day of Future Past than he ever did imo. Not sure about that beard though.

    Trailer looks good, you would be forgiven for not realising it's an x-men film at all.

    I thought the same until his claws came out, was waiting for Jean Valjean (Les Misérables) to burst into song :p

    Any chance of a Deadpool cameo

    Love that version of Hurt by Johnny Cash


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Rory28


    The size of that kids fingers on the poster. They wrap around Logans hand with room to spare.

    Could be a mutant I suppose. Odd either way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    He doesn't really look like Wolverine, he just looks like Hugh Jackman.

    I'm intrigued though, but I'm not going to let myself get too excited but the X-Men movies are so hit and miss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,376 ✭✭✭Tefral


    Rory28 wrote: »
    The size of that kids fingers on the poster. They wrap around Logans hand with room to spare.

    Could be a mutant I suppose. Odd either way.
    Look up Laura Kinney


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    almost like an art film TBH !

    Will give it a shot, at the very least it looks TOTALLY different to whats come before.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Rory28


    Tefral wrote: »
    Look up Laura Kinney

    That fits.

    This being Hugh Jackmans last wolverine film do you think we could get a more true to the comics wolverine next time?
    I want a 5foot 5inch wolverine. sick of him being a giant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    So... what's that about all the mutants being gone? Can he no longer heal in this?

    Trailer looked great anyway, a very different take on an X-Men movie and as said above, doesn't even look like an X-Men movie.


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  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,396 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Bacchus wrote: »
    So... what's that about all the mutants being gone? Can he no longer heal in this?

    The scars he's covered in had me wondering the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    The scars he's covered in had me wondering the same.

    I checked out the wiki page for the movie and it sets the context...
    X-Men wiped out by bad guy. Logan's powers are simply fading and Prof X has alzheimers. Pretty bleak (and great) setup


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭blue note


    Penn wrote: »
    Well, yeah, the whole point of this film is that he's now older and he's aging more. This film is set a number of years after the previous films.

    My apologies! Probably should have like d at the trailer first. He could be perfect for it so!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Bacchus wrote: »
    I checked out the wiki page for the movie and it sets the context...
    X-Men wiped out by bad guy. Logan's powers are simply fading and Prof X has alzheimers. Pretty bleak (and great) setup

    Yup, that sounds about as miserable as the trailer looked; don't get me wrong it all sounds fascinating but methinks this'll be a grim adventure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    RED BAND TRAILER :eek:

    Not safe for work/kids etc..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    So far, I think this looks great. Jackman has always been the most consistent part of the X-Movies and while the first Wolverine movie was rough, I really liked the second one (a disappointing end notwithstanding). I'm glad that, while they're taking the vague concept of Old Man Logan, they don't seem to be attempting the story itself.
    pixelburp wrote: »
    Looks good, if a little downbeat; not sure how I feel about
    a destitute & ageing Professor X & what seems like his dying (putting 2 and 2 together based on what appears like Logan burying somebody)
    .

    The Fox X-Men universe's timeline is so broken I'm not even going to try and speculate how this will all fit into things. To the point where maybe the safest approach is to assume every X-Men film is set within its own universe.

    I agree with the timeline point; I think Fox really needs to just start again. They could use Deadpool as a jumping off point.
    Rory28 wrote: »
    That fits.

    This being Hugh Jackmans last wolverine film do you think we could get a more true to the comics wolverine next time?
    I want a 5foot 5inch wolverine. sick of him being a giant.

    I don't understand why people get so bent out of shape about Logan's height in the movies. It's not an integral part of his character in the comics. Yes, he's short in the comics, sure but that's really quite incidental...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Yup, that sounds about as miserable as the trailer looked; don't get me wrong it all sounds fascinating but methinks this'll be a grim adventure.

    X-Men adventures usually are pretty grim so that fits!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Rory28


    I don't understand why people get so bent out of shape about Logan's height in the movies. It's not an integral part of his character in the comics. Yes, he's short in the comics, sure but that's really quite incidental...

    Its not that I didn't like him in the movies but when I was growing up him being small but near unstoppable was big factor in me liking him. Maybe its because I was short until I got a late growth or whatever but a small wolverine would be great imho.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Rory28 wrote: »
    Its not that I didn't like him in the movies but when I was growing up him being small but near unstoppable was big factor in me liking him. Maybe its because I was short until I got a late growth or whatever but a small wolverine would be great imho.

    That's fair!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    I am really looking forward to this.

    Hope its a serious movie (no Deadpool or gimmicky sh*t), that gives Jackman's Wolverine & Prof X a fitting sendoff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,893 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Great choice of music for that. Just doesnt look like an X-Men movie at all.

    I can't wait for it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Gintonious wrote: »
    Great choice of music for that. Just doesnt look like an X-Men movie at all.

    I can't wait for it.
    Rick and Morty did it first :pac:

    Looks really good. A far cry from the first x-men installment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Ya know.. watching the trailer I was thinking Hugh Jackman has got a very similar look to one Mel Gibson had recently...
    Gibson:
    399677.jpg
    Jackman:
    399678.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,514 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Drumpot wrote: »
    I am really looking forward to this.

    Hope its a serious movie (no Deadpool or gimmicky sh*t), that gives Jackman's Wolverine & Prof X a fitting sendoff.

    I want a Deadpool cameo but going by the trailer it does look more dark and serious


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    X-Men adventures usually are pretty grim so that fits!

    Yeah, but I realise I grew up with Patrick Stewart as Professor X, Picard to a lesser extent, and watching him play an obviously frail, beaten and ailing version of Xavier is breaking my heart just thinking about it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,376 ✭✭✭Tefral


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Looks good, if a little downbeat; not sure how I feel about
    a destitute & ageing Professor X & what seems like his dying (putting 2 and 2 together based on what appears like Logan burying somebody)
    .

    The Fox X-Men universe's timeline is so broken I'm not even going to try and speculate how this will all fit into things. To the point where maybe the safest approach is to assume every X-Men film is set within its own universe.

    Director James Mangold dropped a few hints as to how the film fits.

    Talking to Empire, Mangold stated that, “We are in the future, we have passed the point of the epilogue of Days Of Future Past," and while that may seem obvious, since Logan is set in 2024, it does answer at least one big question that loomed over the film.


    At the risk of getting too nerdy: The Wolverine ended with a mid-credits scene that connected that film to The Last Stand (the mysterious resurrection of Prof. X), while also setting up the events of Days of Future Past. Yet, with DoFP having eliminated the Sentinel-controlled future, leaving Wolverine of the 70s on the path to a new fate, we know (in part from X-Men: Apocalypse) that the events of XO:W no longer exist, and the events of The Wolverine can no longer be same, either.

    The question about Logan was whether or not the film was a direct continuation of The Wolverine or would it pick up with the new OT timeline we left an older Logan in at the end of DoFP? Now Mangold has confirmed that its indeed the latter case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Gintonious wrote: »
    Great choice of music for that. Just doesnt look like an X-Men movie at all.

    I can't wait for it.

    First X-Men movie I've been looking forward to for a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Joeface


    That's the only trailer they should release .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭flangemeistro


    When it shows the girl at the end with the sunglasses on all I could think of was XI from stranger things.
    Looks seriously good.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    A superhero movie in which the superhero doesn't save the world? What sacrilege is this?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    It even looks like the big climax won't involve a menacing, glowing beam shooting into the sky.


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