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2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

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  • #3812
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,081 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    How many more Trump tapes to come out before election day?

    Does the N-bomb tape exist?

    Probably , but it really doesn't matter at this stage , Trump will continue to dig even bigger holes for himself with women and moderate voters..

    I mean look at his response to the accusation from the People Magazine reporter that he forced her up against a wall and kissed her..

    His response was not "I didn't do that , I'm not that kind of person" or whatever...

    No - His response was "Look at her, I mean Really? , I don't think so"

    So , his defence is "She's not my type/ not pretty enough" ??

    And that's supposed to get people to vote for him... Jesus...


  • #3813
    B0jangles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    No it's comments that a paedophile would make.

    I've a ten year old cousin and if I heard a middle age man make any references to dating her I'd probably report it to someone.

    Also call him out right there about what he was implying and why when looking at a 10 year old dating her is a thought that crosses his mind.

    Does he find the 10 year old attractive? Does he have some sort of mental illness and should be kept away from minors.

    Given his history of speaking in sexual terms of his daughter Ivanka from her early teens, his daughter Tiffany when she was a year old and these other incidents with the 10 year old the 14 year old girls, Trump appears to have serious difficulty in perceiving any female human being in non sexual terms, regardless of age or whether or not they are close relations.

    It's very very disturbing.


  • #3814
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,778 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Its bordering on grooming children, thats what it is. These are only tiny audio clips of what Trump says to young girls out in public. Id fear to think what goes on in private.


  • #3815
    frostyjacks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    B0jangles wrote: »
    Trump appears to have serious difficulty in perceiving any female human being in non sexual terms, regardless of age or whether or not they are close relations.

    It's very very disturbing.

    It's disturbing to see Trump being shamed for being heterosexual. I mean, we had a presidential candidate over here who made it explicitly clear he was a fan of pedophilia, and it didn't cause as big a stir as this.

    Trump likes beautiful, young ladies. What normal man doesn't? He's still riding high in the polls. Hillary must be wondering what she has to do to knock him out.


  • #3816
    alastair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,311 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    RobertKK wrote: »
    That is not true.
    Juanita Broaddrick still makes rape accusations against Bill, and that Hillary helped cover it up.

    Sorry - but it is true.

    That accusation dates from the 70's - long before Bill Clinton was president.. And was previously retracted.


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  • #3817
    20Cent
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Trump also needs to apologise to males by claiming we are all as lewd and foul mouthed as he is for claiming it's "locker room " talk.


  • #3818
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    I'd be more concerned if a candidate was Putins b**ch with the hundreds of millions of dollars they owe Russia, who are far more of a threat to the US and the international community than SA.

    How do you know he owes Russia?


  • #3819
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    20Cent wrote: »
    Trump also needs to apologise to males by claiming we are all as lewd and foul mouthed as he is for claiming it's "locker room " talk.

    Hillary needs to apologise for all the males who will be killed and all the females who will be raped in her upcoming wars in the Middle East and possibly Russia.


  • #3820
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,176 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    It's disturbing to see Trump being shamed for being heterosexual. I mean, we had a presidential candidate over here who made it explicitly clear he was a fan of pedophilia, and it didn't cause as big a stir as this.

    Trump likes beautiful, young ladies. What normal man doesn't? He's still riding high in the polls. Hillary must be wondering what she has to do to knock him out.
    He's not being shamed for being heterosexual. Plenty of heterosexual guys can get through life without grabbing a woman's crotch without her consent.


  • #3821
    B0jangles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    oik wrote: »
    Hillary needs to apologise for all the males who will be killed and all the females who will be raped in her upcoming wars in the Middle East and possibly Russia.

    So the corollary to Trump apologising for things he has actually said and done is for Clinton to apologise in advance for things you imagine she will do in the future?

    Trump Logic


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  • #3822
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    He's not being shamed for being heterosexual. Plenty of heterosexual guys can get through life without grabbing a woman's crotch without her consent.

    Except even Trump's accuser isn't accusing him of grabbing her crotch.


  • #3823
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    B0jangles wrote: »
    So the corollary to Trump apologising for things he has actually said and done is for Clinton to apologise in advance for things you imagine she will do in the future?

    Trump Logic

    No, I'm not using logic I'm using baseless appeals to emotion to scare people away from voting for a candidate.

    CNN logic.


  • #3824
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    Trump likes beautiful, young children.

    Corrected it for you.


  • #3825
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Corrected it for you.

    Are we going to ignore the fact he told Howard Stern he only goes for over 25's?

    Because we're only supposed to believe the bad things he says on Howard Stern, right?


  • #3826
    B0jangles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    oik wrote: »
    No, I'm not using logic I'm using baseless appeals to emotion to scare people away from voting for a candidate.

    CNN logic

    An almost completely honest post at last! Well done!


  • #3827
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    Can we have a thread where we talk about actual politics? This mudslinging back and forth was fun for a while, but much of this stuff belongs in After Hours and is just repetitive at this stage.


  • #3828
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    oik wrote: »
    Are we going to ignore the fact he told Howard Stern he only goes for over 25's?
    What year was that


  • #3829
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    B0jangles wrote: »
    Honesty at last, well done!

    Is it not against the rules to chop up people's posts and made snarky remarks? Would have thought that falls below the standard.


  • #3830
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    Overheal wrote: »
    What year was that

    I don't know, does it matter?


  • #3831
    B0jangles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    oik wrote: »
    Is it not against the rules to chop up people's posts and made snarky remarks? Would have thought that falls below the standard.

    You're right, post amended for greater accuracy.


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  • #3832
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    oik wrote: »
    I don't know, does it matter?

    Well if I said I was interested in a 16yr old girl it's certainly relevant if I'm 15 or 45.


  • #3833
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    B0jangles wrote: »
    You're right, post amended for greater accuracy.

    No you've still taken my comment out of context in a trolling attempt.


  • #3834
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    Overheal wrote: »
    Well if I said I was interested in a 16yr old girl it's certainly relevant if I'm 15 or 45.

    He said 25 not 16, so what's your point?


  • #3835
    B0jangles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    oik wrote: »
    No you've still taken my comment out of context in a trolling attempt.

    Happy now? No trolling btw, that's how i genuinely view your.posts and I doubt i'm alone in that.


  • #3836
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Just 25 more days

    Just 25 more days


  • #3837
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,567 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    I think there is a risk that this drip drip approach could backfire if it allows Trump and his supporters to get more and more into a siege mentality. Trump already claims that he's being treated unfairly, that the media are liars who will make up stories to discredit him. His supporters could very easily take the same view if they see a single minded and concerted attack on Trump by the media, while they perceive that Clinton's scandals are being covered up.

    Trump got this far by being the outsider candidate. Thats where he thrives. If Clinton has a real slam dunk piece of footage showing Trump in the act of sexally assaulting someone, then they should release it sooner rather than later. If all they have are offensive comments that could be interpreted as jokes or imappropriate comments by those who want to believe the best in Trump, then it could turn people even more against Clinton and help Trump to stage a recovery.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • #3838
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    oik wrote: »
    He said 25 not 16, so what's your point?

    I made it; you're evading it. Therefore I'm satisfied that you can't defend your previous point.


  • #3839
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    B0jangles wrote: »
    Happy now? No trolling btw, that's how i genuinely view your.posts and I doubt i'm alone in that.

    Play the ball not the man.


  • #3840
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    Overheal wrote: »
    I made it; you're evading it. Therefore I'm satisfied that you can't defend your previous point.

    No you haven't you're insinuating there's some similarity between 16 year olds and 25 year olds.

    16 year olds can't drive and 25 year olds can have mortgages, so tell me, what is your point?

    You're the one who's evading by not actually making a clear argument so you never have to defend it.


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  • #3841
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,110 ✭✭✭Christy42


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    It's disturbing to see Trump being shamed for being heterosexual. I mean, we had a presidential candidate over here who made it explicitly clear he was a fan of pedophilia, and it didn't cause as big a stir as this.

    Trump likes beautiful, young ladies. What normal man doesn't? He's still riding high in the polls. Hillary must be wondering what she has to do to knock him out.

    As a heterosexual male I have never been attracted to a 10 year. Nor looked at a 10 year old and thought I would like them in a few years.

    Given his campaign requires an unprecedented comeback to give him the presidency I don't think riding high in the polls is the term I would use.


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