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2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,376 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    It might help the republicans if Don's family persuade him to throw in the towel and go back to his business's. It's almost like the death by a thousand cuts punishment. I'm surprised that it's only the NY times his legals have threatened to sue, as the Washington Post has been covering the women's allegations as well. I'm wondering how this and the campaign are affecting his personal finances.

    Hell, if he doesn't get in, he may even start up a tax advice business as he's so expert on tax matters (that's one part of his statements I believe may be true) as he's reportedly paid his own business's for services provided to his campaign which he can use for financial gain. I couldn't see many of his fellow citizens being happy if an audit revealed after the elections are over, that he made a financial gain from the process he'd put them through.

    Re his threats to check out Hillary's business and jail her, I suspect she might have a cold revenge supper in mind with him on the menu, in a like - but unspoken - manner, given she's a lawyer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    Hillary has been summoned before a judge to answer questions about her server under threat of perjury.

    The news broke early morning in the states but wasn't covered on any of the networks.

    I only know about it because of the British media.

    The level of bias inherent in that state of affairs is of Soviet proportions.

    https://twitter.com/bbcthisweek/status/786707390683119616

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-press-buries-hillary-clintons-sins-1476401308
    If average voters turned on the TV for five minutes this week, chances are they know that Donald Trump made lewd remarks a decade ago and now stands accused of groping women.

    But even if average voters had the TV on 24/7, they still probably haven’t heard the news about Hillary Clinton: That the nation now has proof of pretty much everything she has been accused of.

    It comes from hacked emails dumped by WikiLeaks, documents released under the Freedom of Information Act, and accounts from FBI insiders. The media has almost uniformly ignored the flurry of bombshells, preferring to devote its front pages to the Trump story. So let’s review what amounts to a devastating case against a Clinton presidency.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,899 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    oik wrote: »
    Hillary has been summoned before a judge to answer questions about her server under threat of perjury.

    The news broke early morning in the states but wasn't covered on any of the networks.

    I only know about it because of the British media.

    The level of bias inherent in that state of affairs is of Soviet proportions.

    https://twitter.com/bbcthisweek/status/786707390683119616

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-press-buries-hillary-clintons-sins-1476401308

    The online media like politico had this 19 hours ago, she's already responded in writing, which is what the judge asked for.

    Don't have WSJ paywall - can you confirm it was written replies that were requested and received?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    So a written reply and that's that?

    Seems a waste of time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,311 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    She a written reply and that's that?

    Seems a waste of time

    It's a no-news story. Hillary repeats the same answers she's already given to the public investigation, on the back of a partisan FOI request.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    TheDoctor wrote: »

    Two adults dating is dirty now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    No you're right, a 45 year old man looking at a 10 year old girl and saying I'll date her in the future is completely standard behaviour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    In 1992 he directly told a couple of 14 year olds he'd be dating them in a few years...

    Wj4tGf6.jpg

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-donald-trump-girls-chicago-tribune-archive-20161013-story.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    Crosspost from the media vs Trump thread:

    Also, to answer the question "why didn't they (the alleged sexual assault victims) come forward sooner?" The below is an account of what happened to a woman who said something Trump didn't like:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/04/sheena-monnin-donald-trump-miss-usa-lawsuit

    TL/DR Miss Universe contestant hears that Trump hand-picks some of the finalists himself which is obviously against the rules of the competition, resigns her title in protest and is then sued by Trump in a $10 million dollar lawsuit in order to silence her.

    In 2012, Monnin was completely blindsided by the lawsuit. “There was no way I could have afforded to pay that off and frankly, he had to have known that,” she said of Trump’s $10m suit. “I was just a normal person.” At 27, she had no legal experience or connections, and had never seen anything approaching that kind of money. She was still paying off her degree from the online university she attended, and making strides to grow a small business.

    Unlike Trump, she did not come from privilege. Her family had to move every few years for her father’s business, work which took them to Florida, Texas, New York, Kentucky and the Carolinas before she was grown. Sometimes her parents would take in foster kids in the cities where they lived, but they never stayed anywhere long.

    The three years she spent battling Trump and his lawyers she recalls as the most traumatic period of her life. Family helped keep her feeling grounded and protected, she said, but there were still mornings when she didn’t want to get out of bed. “My focus was getting through each day and getting through what was going on around me and understanding my options,” she said of that period. “Every day seemed to bring a new legal document that I didn’t understand, that I had to seek legal counsel on.”

    As recently as last year, Trump’s lawyer Michael Cohen bragged to the Daily Beast about the time he “destroy[ed]” Monnin’s life. Attempting to intimidate a Beast reporter, Cohen said: “Do you want to destroy your life? It’s going to be my privilege to serve it to you on a silver platter like I did that idiot from Pennsylvania in Miss USA.” Monnin rebuffs the notion her life was destroyed, but concedes Trump succeeded in the short term and not just with regard to making her feel small and afraid. “There was this message being sent out to all the contestants: you better not say anything bad about us. And that’s how the other young ladies felt.” It may have worked: not one of the women whom Monnin said sent supportive messages after Trump attacked her came forward to defend her in public, though one did anonymously defend her story to Fox News.

    It’s no secret that Trump is incredibly litigious. A recent investigation by USA Today tallied 3,500 lawsuits involving Trump. He gets sued quite a bit, but mostly he does the suing, filing 1,900 suits, including many – like the one against Monnin – for defamation. He has sued biographers, journalists, business partners, even an ex-wife and a Native American tribe, but he has threatened to sue even more.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    No you're right, a 45 year old man looking at a 10 year old girl and saying I'll date her in the future is completely standard behaviour.

    He's jesting about dating a younger woman, big deal. More power to him. The last time the Clintons were in the Whitehouse, God only knows how many women were raped and sexually assaulted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,644 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    He's jesting about dating a younger woman, big deal. More power to him.

    She was 10. He is creepy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    He's jesting about dating a younger woman, big deal. More power to him. The last time the Clintons were in the Whitehouse, God only knows how many women were raped and sexually assaulted.

    So to be absolutely clear, you're ok with a 46 year old man whose immediate response to meeting 10 and 14 year old children is to imagine vocally speculate in their hearing about dating them in a few years time?

    As to the Clintons, while Bill's behaviour is absolutely not above reproach, he has not been convicted of anything, nor is he on record boasting about sexually assaulting women or fantasising about dating children.

    edit: updated to make text more accurate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭Anatom


    He's jesting about dating a younger woman, big deal. More power to him. The last time the Clintons were in the Whitehouse, God only knows how many women were raped and sexually assaulted.

    I'd be interested to see the solid source for your speculation...


  • Posts: 24,798 ✭✭✭✭ Devon Breezy Restaurant


    Seems like a go-to rubbish and tasteless joke for The Donald.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,376 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    oik wrote: »
    Hillary has been summoned before a judge to answer questions about her server under threat of perjury.

    The news broke early morning in the states but wasn't covered on any of the networks.

    I only know about it because of the British media.

    The level of bias inherent in that state of affairs is of Soviet proportions.

    https://twitter.com/bbcthisweek/status/786707390683119616

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-press-buries-hillary-clintons-sins-1476401308

    Sound's like standard court case procedure. Legals put in papers to a judge in response to a question from his in relation to a claim/report made to him. Don's legals are doing exactly the same in NY court relating to the rape allegations. The perjury reference would be in relation to alleged differences between her testimony provided to court and the leaked info, the judge wants to know what's what, Media using the term "threat of perjury" to highlight their news report, use of catch the eye wording for a news item. It'd be interesting to see if the threat of perjury wording is actually used on the court document served to Hillary and/or her legals.

    Edit... ta Oik, I like the continued reference to Russia when it comes to the affairs of the Don and the leaks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    Seems like a go-to rubbish and tasteless joke for The Donald.

    Don likes them to be as young as he can get away with according to his own words:
    I have a deal with her. She’s 17 and doing great — Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her,” Trump said during a taping of Howard Stern’s radio show in June 1999. “So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited.” “The nerve of her. Now you can’t go out with 16-year-olds,” Howard Stern joked in response.


    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-ivanka-made-promise-not-date-younger-article-1.2813061


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Two adults dating is dirty now?

    Grooming 10 year old children is dirty.

    And particularly damning for someone on trial for raping a 13 year old only 2 years later.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    B0jangles wrote: »
    So to be absolutely clear, you're ok with a 46 year old man whose immediate response to meeting 10 and 14 year old children is to imagine dating them in a few years time?

    As to the Clintons, while Bill's behaviour is absolutely not above reproach, he has not been convicted of anything, nor is he on record boasting about sexually assaulting women or fantasising about dating children.

    Nor has Trump been convicted of anything. Who was fantasising about dating children?

    It's a little cringey, but I'd rather have a reputation as a bit of a lech than a genuine sexual predator. Hillary may as well bring Larry Murphy into the Whitehouse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    Nor has Trump been convicted of anything. Who was fantasising about dating children?

    It's a little cringey, but I'd rather have a reputation as a bit of a lech than a genuine sexual predator. Hillary may as well bring Larry Murphy into the Whitehouse.


    Ok, conversation over. I don't think I can find any middle.ground with someone who thinks talking to and about children in such a way is acceptable.at.any level.

    ' a little cringey' ffs


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,311 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    He's jesting about dating a younger woman, big deal. More power to him. The last time the Clintons were in the Whitehouse, God only knows how many women were raped and sexually assaulted.

    You do know that the number of accusations of rape or sexual assault against Bill Clinton as president stands at precisely zero?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    B0jangles wrote: »
    Ok, conversation over. I don't think I can find any middle.ground with someone who thinks talking to and about children in such a way is acceptable.at.any level.

    ' a little cringey' ffs

    He talked about dating an adult woman. You're the one pushing the adult/child scenario. Me think you doth protest too much on that front, quite frankly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    He talked about dating an adult woman. You're the one pushing the adult/child scenario. Me think you doth protest too much on that front, quite frankly.
    10 year olds are not adults. What age was this "woman" he was talking to?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    alastair wrote: »
    You do know that the number of accusations of rape or sexual assault against Bill Clinton as president stands at precisely zero?

    That is not true.
    Juanita Broaddrick still makes rape accusations against Bill, and that Hillary helped cover it up.


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,859 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    It seems the apple doesn't fall far from the tree: Donny Jr thinks that women who don't want to be harassed shouldn't be in the workforce.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-jr-women-harrassment-workforce_us_5800b9bbe4b0162c043b532e?section=&


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,568 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    He talked about dating an adult woman. You're the one pushing the adult/child scenario. Me think you doth protest too much on that front, quite frankly.

    Mod Note:

    Despite repeated warnings, posters are still making personal attacks against other posters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    How many more Trump tapes to come out before election day?

    Does the N-bomb tape exist?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Peist2007


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    How many more Trump tapes to come out before election day?

    Does the N-bomb tape exist?

    Imagine if a tape comes out where Trump is supportive of taking out Gaddafi and letting the moderate rebels in to replace him? Or what about if a tape surfaces showing Trump admitting to taking €25m from Saudi Arabia thereby ruining his "pro-women" stance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Nor has Trump been convicted of anything. Who was fantasising about dating children?

    It's a little cringey,

    No it's comments that a paedophile would make.

    I've a ten year old cousin and if I heard a middle age man make any references to dating her I'd probably report it to someone.

    Also call him out right there about what he was implying and why when looking at a 10 year old dating her is a thought that crosses his mind.

    Does he find the 10 year old attractive? Does he have some sort of mental illness and should be kept away from minors.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Peist2007 wrote: »
    Imagine if a tape comes out where Trump is supportive of taking out Gaddafi and letting the moderate rebels in to replace him? Or what about if a tape surfaces showing Trump admitting to taking €25m from Saudi Arabia thereby ruining his "pro-women" stance?


    I'd be more concerned if a candidate was Putins b**ch with the hundreds of millions of dollars they owe Russia, who are far more of a threat to the US and the international community than SA.


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