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Cremation or Burial?

  • 12-10-2016 8:37pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,873 ✭✭✭✭


    Cremation or Burial - what would you opt for?

    I personally want to be cremated, I dont want to be worm fodder when I pop me clogs.

    But the mrs tells me good luck with that, you can pay because its supposed to be expensive and i think only Dublin & Galway offer cremation

    Just reading the other week that a Sligo cemetery is running out of space for plots or will be soon and will need expanding... taking up more land.

    Land is valuable, shouldn't it be for building on rather than burying people in it?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Cryogengics
    Donate to science :p and when your body comes back cremation !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,596 ✭✭✭hairyslug


    Cremated and a day out for the family on the stenaline to Holyhead, they can scatter my ashes half way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,695 ✭✭✭Lisha


    Cremation is my preference.
    I'm just not into the whole going to the graveyard stuff. I fully appreciate it is beneficial for some, but it's not for me.

    However I feel the needs of the people left after me are more important than my opinion, so I think whoever is left after me can make that decision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,942 ✭✭✭gifted


    Stuffed and hang me over me fireplace...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    I want to be taken from where ever i die and cremated without any kind of ceremony. I've told people that much already. Whoever wants can flush the ashes down the jax or chuck them in the bin or whatever after that for all i'll care.

    Basically, i want to incinerated.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,873 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


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    hairyslug wrote: »
    Cremated and a day out for the family on the stenaline to Holyhead, they can scatter my ashes half way

    watched a good thing on UK TV once about cremation - some times they wait until they have enough ashes to put in the urn. I think it was that one body doesnt produce that much ash really when its burnt in such high temperature that sometimes the person who gets the urn could have someone else ash mixed in with their loved one ..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    watched a good thing on UK TV once about cremation - some times they wait until they have enough ashes to put in the urn. I think it was that one body doesnt produce that much ash really when its burnt in such high temperature that sometimes the person who gets the urn could have someone else ash mixed in with their loved one ..

    Does it really matter at that point?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Into the compost bin for me. I love my garden so it seems appropriate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,873 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


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    tell u what when your incinerated thats it then , your well and truly dead! - dont like hearing stories of people being buried and the nature of science (or nature) your buried underground and your heart starts beating again! :eek: - no fanks!

    In the old day they had to put bells above ground because people werent properly dead after all. They buried someone and the next day the guy was alive and rung the bell!

    Especially seeing how quick they bury you over here in Ireland after you've snuffed it - sure you could die here at 8am in the morning and be buried by time the angelus tolls!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,873 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


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    lawlolawl wrote: »
    Does it really matter at that point?

    might do if the ones left behind find out...

    plus the other geezer who is mixed with your ashes may have hated boats and be sea-sick or didnt want to be scattered at sea and wanted to be spread out under a rose bush instead...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,085 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    Donated to science. Them cremation. What they do with the ashes is up to tjem:)
    All organised. I like things in order!


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,615 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    In the old day they had to put bells above ground because people werent properly dead after all. They buried someone and the next day the guy was alive and rung the bell!

    Which is where the term "you're a dead ringer of some one" comes from!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,873 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


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    every County should have a crematorium these days I reckon ...

    could even put turbines in them and hook the up to the national electricity Grid network ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,873 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


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    antodeco wrote: »
    Which is where the term "you're a dead ringer of some one" comes from!

    oh yeah , so it does ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    I'd like a Viking type funeral.

    Put me in a small rowing boat, set fire to it and kick me out to sea.

    I'd love to the arrange a prank so that 100 yards out to sea I have someone swim out and get in the boat and then jump up in flames screaming they're alive!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭failinis


    Not sure, if burial then would like a biodegradable coffin like the wicker or cardboard ones.
    May donate body to science, you get returned as ashes, not sure where they would scatter it etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    every County should have a crematorium these days I reckon ...

    could even put turbines in them and hook the up to the national electricity Grid network ...

    Don't know about every county but there should definitely be more of them. I hear there are fairly substantial waiting times and costs involved because people still like to be planted and waste perfectly good land for some reason so cremation isn't that popular even though it is the most effective way of disposing of the waste after someone shuffles off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Biscuit
    No - cake!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,325 ✭✭✭iLikeWaffles


    Cremation and ashes compressed into a diamond.

    http://www.algordanza.com/en/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 664 ✭✭✭9or10


    Cryogengics
    I'm not into whole grave thing either, and I've been thinking about donating my body to science.

    Just hate the thought of a load unwashed hairy students mucking about with me dangly bits. Probably playing marbles with me nuts.

    So the bbq is probably best.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,507 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    The OP suggests cremation is pricier, however mostly it isnt, especially in the cities where burial plots are expensive.

    Cremation is my choice, regardless of cost, then the ashes portioned out in a couple of places im fond of. Then thats it, no dressing graves or christmas obligations or ongoing costs on my family. Done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,873 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


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    Cremation and ashes compressed into a diamond.

    http://www.algordanza.com/en/

    I want to be cremated and my ashes mixed with dog dry cereal food


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    I'll be buried, with my father. Thoughts of being in a fire and turned to dust is terrifying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,124 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Firstly cremation is far cheaper than burial.
    I don't like the idea of cremation. When your cremated there's nothing left of you whereas when you finish decomposing there will always be some trace of you in the ground.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,847 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    antodeco wrote: »
    Which is where the term "you're a dead ringer of some one" comes from!

    No, no its not!
    It's horse racing terminology.
    Dead ringer means an exact duplicate.
    Here's the link
    http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/dead-ringer.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,873 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


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    Gael23 wrote: »
    Firstly cremation is far cheaper than burial.

    Ah well thats good to know then
    Gael23 wrote: »
    I don't like the idea of cremation. When your cremated there's nothing left of you whereas when you finish decomposing there will always be some trace of you in the ground.

    ....and thats good/useful in what way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,873 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


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    often wondered about people who are right against being cremated and dying in a house fire or something like that (or charging a samsung galaxy note 7 - see what i did there :) )

    ... I suppose though its not by choice if that happens then ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    tell u what when your incinerated thats it then , your well and truly dead! - dont like hearing stories of people being buried and the nature of science (or nature) your buried underground and your heart starts beating again! :eek: - no fanks!

    In the old day they had to put bells above ground because people werent properly dead after all. They buried someone and the next day the guy was alive and rung the bell!

    Especially seeing how quick they bury you over here in Ireland after you've snuffed it - sure you could die here at 8am in the morning and be buried by time the angelus tolls!

    There is no documentary evidence of anybody ever being taken alive from a safety coffin; having rung the bell. Indeed, very few were ever used despite many patents over the years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,526 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Ah well thats good to know then


    ....and thats good/useful in what way

    Maybe in the future say 500 or so hundred years they might be able to take that tiny bit of DNA and bring that person back to life. Kinda like what could be done with dinosaurs but more advanced

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    AMKC wrote: »
    Maybe in the future say 500 or so hundred years they might be able to take that tiny bit of DNA and bring that person back to life. Kinda like what could be done with dinosaurs but more advanced

    That wouldn't be bringing someone back to life. You'd just be cloning them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,873 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


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    I just checked out this

    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/death/after_a_death/cremations.html

    I dont see Galway listed now - I see a couple of dublin ones and Cork and one in Cavan.

    3 hours bloody trip for me to Dublin on the train (do they accept stiffs?) , something like 42quid on irish rail. Mind u I would only need a one way ticket so at least it should be cheaper fare :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 664 ✭✭✭9or10


    Cryogengics
    Andy - nice trip to Dub for all the relatives though: do a bit of shopping; see the sights; followed by drinks in Coppers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Ideally, I wouldn't want a funeral or any kind of ceremonial fuss. Given my own absolute hatred of having to attend funerals, weddings, christenings, confirmations, bar mitzvahs, etc, a non-event would be most appropriate. Cremation or burial? I don't mind - whichever causes the least amount of hassle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭storker


    Cremation for me. I have a terrible fear of being buried alive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,873 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


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    I would say - anyone who feels claustrophobic or or a bit panicky of enclosed places in real life might want to consider cremation instead .... theres not much room in them there coffins!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,873 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


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    What is the Catholic stance on cremations?

    - i see reading a bit on the citizen advice page the Orthodox Judaism and Islam religions do not permit cremation it seems


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭Alcoheda


    storker wrote: »
    Cremation for me. I have a terrible fear of being buried alive.

    But not burned alive?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Spring loaded coffin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,987 ✭✭✭Tilly


    I'll be dead so don't care what they do with me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    What is the Catholic stance on cremations?

    They're not that fond of it, but they tolerate it. I can see their point - Imagine if Jesus had been cremated... "On the third day, he smouldered again in accordance with the scriptures". We'd get toasted communion at mass though, which would be nice.


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    Been to dozens of burials. Not for me. I think my father had the same idea. One of his final wishes when he passed in 2014 was to be cremated. We had him cremated in Ringaskiddy in Cork. This might sound strange but its such a nicer more dignified way to finish your final journey.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Walter2016


    Cremation or Burial - what would you opt for?

    I personally want to be cremated, I dont want to be worm fodder when I pop me clogs.

    But the mrs tells me good luck with that, you can pay because its supposed to be expensive and i think only Dublin & Galway offer cremation

    Just reading the other week that a Sligo cemetery is running out of space for plots or will be soon and will need expanding... taking up more land.

    Land is valuable, shouldn't it be for building on rather than burying people in it?

    Unfortunately the planners wouldn't allow a crematorium in Ovens, Co. Cork - if they had, that would have been my choice. :)

    But they do have one in Ringaskiddy.

    For burial, the new Kilternan Cemetery Park is a wow! - Prices start at 7k and 10k for a corner plot. (yep, a house developer is involved - park homes)


    And there's no truth to the rumour that the ovens crematorium had the slogan "you kill em, we grill em" planned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Stigura


    Tonight, at Glasgow Crematorium; Robbie Burns! See also Elizabeth Fry and Robert Browning :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Lucy8080


    Compromise with the missus! Tell her that you don't mind being buried standing up. Saves both land and money.

    Winners all round...well ,excepting yourself...R.I.P. Andy from Sligo.

    Remember me in your will...I did save you money...10% of the savings made as a consultancy fee.

    For 20% I'll throw in a bit of keening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,873 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


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    Lucy8080 wrote:
    For 20% I'll throw in a bit of keening.


    Haha. What's keening when it's at home?


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


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    Cremation. Absolutely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,409 ✭✭✭topmanamillion


    Please don't bury me
    Down in that cold cold ground
    No, I'd druther have "em" cut me up
    And pass me all around
    Throw my brain in a hurricane
    And the blind can have my eyes
    And the deaf can take both of my ears
    If they don't mind the size
    Give my stomach to Milwaukee
    If they run out of beer
    Put my socks in a cedar box
    Just get "em" out of here
    Venus de Milo can have my arms
    Look out! I've got your nose
    Sell my heart to the junkman
    And give my love to Rose

    Give my feet to the footloose
    Careless, fancy free
    Give my knees to the needy
    Don't pull that stuff on me
    Hand me down my walking cane
    It's a sin to tell a lie
    Send my mouth way down south
    And kiss my ass goodbye


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭CaliforniaDream


    We had my mother cremated last year. It's not really more expensive. Theres no where in Galway though. We had to send her up to Dublin. Also it takes a few days for everything up there so we didn't get the ashes back for about a week.
    I'd definitely be cremated too. Bit ****ty if someone didn't respect your wishes and had you buried if you wanted to be cremated and vice verse.


  • Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭Skyfarm


    aside from the question ,there is a serious problem in Ireland with the cost of funerals ,6,000 euro for the bare minimum funeral is scandalous

    Burn me ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,657 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Firstly cremation is far cheaper than burial.
    I don't like the idea of cremation. When your cremated there's nothing left of you whereas when you finish decomposing there will always be some trace of you in the ground.

    ActuallY there is bone left after the burning process. That's why they have a grinder which is used to grind down the ash and bone down to an fine dust.

    There are crematoriums outside the cities, one opened in Cavan recently.


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