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3 lowlifes get life for bashing a man to death.

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  • #332
    tipptom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    MartyDublin wrote: »
    Happily give him a job. I lived in holland me friends are in marbella, Banus to be exact.
    Listen one eejit already identified me on the thread earlier today. If ya wanna sit down over a pint and ill explain this case to ya, let me know. Ill even treat ya to one.
    Ha Ha, I'm delighted that they have made enough at such a young age like yourself to be soaking up rays in Marbs and enjoying the cultural delights of Holland.
    What business are they in?


  • #333
    MartyDublin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 131 ✭✭MartyDublin


    tipptom wrote: »
    Ha Ha, I'm delighted that they have made enough at such a young age like yourself to be soaking up rays in Marbs and enjoying the cultural delights of Holland.
    What business are they in?

    Customer service mate. Great spot marbs is. Be sure to drop into Slaínte for a pint great irish bar. Look after your self im away here mate.

    Free matthew Cummins Anois.


  • #334
    tipptom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    MartyDublin wrote: »
    Customer service mate. Great spot marbs is. Be sure to drop into Slaínte for a pint great irish bar. Look after your self im away here mate.

    Free matthew Cummins Anois.
    Customer Service....Sweet!!


  • #335
    lawlolawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    MartyDublin wrote: »
    Judiciary never met him outside court, jurors never met him outside court, media never met him outside court.
    One of the gaurds identified him as playing a minor role in this in open court.

    They met him inside the court plenty of times though.

    This time it was because he murdered someone.


  • #336
    foggy_lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    MartyDublin wrote: »
    Matthew will be out in february thankfully, watch this space. Awful miscarriage of justice.

    The only miscarriage is that they weren't given a minimum of 25 years to serve!


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  • #337
    MartyDublin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 131 ✭✭MartyDublin


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    The only miscarriage is that they weren't given a minimum of 25 years to serve!

    Cry me a river. Matty will be out in a few months.


  • #338
    corner of hells
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    MartyDublin wrote: »
    Cry me a river. Matty will be out in a few months.

    If you hadn't met him yourself , what would you think of him disregarding his previous convictions?

    You're a peculiar character in the sense that I couldn't imagine anyone with a Hutch/Kinahan connection ever sharing a cell with that man.If anything I would have thought he would've been in protective custody.


  • #339
    MartyDublin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 131 ✭✭MartyDublin


    corner of hells wrote: »
    If you hadn't met him yourself , what would you think of him disregarding his previous convictions?

    You're a peculiar character in the sense that I couldn't imagine anyone with a Hutch/Kinahan connection ever sharing a cell with that man.If anything I would have thought he would've been in protective custody.

    Obviously id hink he was a low life till i read his book of evidence. And protective custody definitely not his 2 co accused are alright. He passed his book around and people seen his miniscule part to play. He was on A wing in cloverhill the main Dublin wing and then D wing in Midlands with dublin and limerick lads. The lad is a nice fella


  • #340
    corner of hells
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    MartyDublin wrote: »
    Obviously id hink he was a low life till i read his book of evidence. And protective custody definitely not his 2 co accused are alright. He passed his book around and people seen his miniscule part to play. He was on A wing in cloverhill the main Dublin wing and then D wing in Midlands with dublin and limerick lads. The lad is a nice fella

    It's a difficult one to take on board , on the balance of things you'd might see why people have the opinions they have in here.


  • #341
    HensVassal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    lawlolawl wrote: »
    Yeah, right wing politicians want the general public to die on mass for no apparent reason.

    Are you ok dude? Do you genuinely believe any of this?

    Also, i work 48 hours a week much like everyone else in semi-state/state jobs. The leftists messed up somewhere there. How could that be possible :confused:

    Great...reductio ad absurdum.

    Right wing politicians are beholden to business interests. They don't want the public to die en masse for no reason but they have no problem jeopardizing the general public wellbeing if it yields a profit.

    As for your 48 hours......how much of that is spent on breaks? Do you get paid by the hour? Could you work less or more if you wanted to? Do you get overtime or time in lieu?


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  • #342
    MartyDublin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 131 ✭✭MartyDublin


    corner of hells wrote: »
    It's a difficult one to take on board , on the balance of things you'd might see why people have the opinions they have in here.

    Listen i dont hold it against people the opiniom they hold thats fine. But the detective initially wanted matty charged with accessory but dpp pushed for murder. In court the lead detective said case against james davy was open and close murder other 2 not so clear and said to matthew he will be very unlucky to be found guilty. The guy has a past no doubt, but to be found guilty of murder it needs ro be satisfied amongst the jury and no reasonable doubt of his guilt. This isnt possible .day of guilty verdict the defence appealed it and the DPL said would he be willing to accept a plea deal to lesser charge. They said no he will be cleared. fact


  • #343
    Liamo08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭Liamo08


    MartyDublin wrote: »
    Obviously id hink he was a low life till i read his book of evidence. And protective custody definitely not his 2 co accused are alright. He passed his book around and people seen his miniscule part to play. He was on A wing in cloverhill the main Dublin wing and then D wing in Midlands with dublin and limerick lads. The lad is a nice fella

    And would you have the same opinion of him if one of your family/friends was the victim of one of his previous numerous crimes? Or how would you feel if it was someone you knew who was in the house that he tried to burn down after the party? And let's say you're right and he didn't swing the bat, I suppose you'd still think he was a lovely fella if it was your parent that whose house he broke into and let the other lads in to kill them with a bat?


  • #344
    lawlolawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    HensVassal wrote: »

    As for your 48 hours......how much of that is spent on breaks? Do you get paid by the hour? Could you work less or more if you wanted to? Do you get overtime or time in lieu?

    Why does any of this matter? Clearly the saintly left wing has failed me and tens of thousands of others in this country who work well over 40 hours a week.


  • #345
    MartyDublin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 131 ✭✭MartyDublin


    Liamo08 wrote: »
    And would you have the same opinion of him if one of your family/friends was the victim of one of his previous numerous crimes? Or how would you feel if it was someone you knew who was in the house that he tried to burn down after the party? And let's say you're right and he didn't swing the bat, I suppose you'd still think he was a lovely fella if it was your parent that whose house he broke into and let the other lads in to kill them with a bat?

    Of course i wouldnt. But that would be a biased opinion. Im taking him on the evidence i seen from the state. Nothing else.


  • #346
    Liamo08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭Liamo08


    MartyDublin wrote: »
    Of course i wouldnt. But that would be a biased opinion. Im taking him on the evidence i seen from the state. Nothing else.

    So you're saying he was innocent of all the crimes he's ever committed that have had an impact on multiple victims?


  • #347
    MartyDublin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 131 ✭✭MartyDublin


    Liamo08 wrote: »
    So you're saying he was innocent of all the crimes he's ever committed that have had an impact on multiple victims?

    Show me where i said that.


  • #348
    Liamo08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭Liamo08


    MartyDublin wrote: »
    Show me where i said that.

    So I take it we both agree that he has committed a lot of previous crimes? So I'll ask you again how would you feel about him if the victims of some of these crimes were people you cared about?


  • #349
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    MartyDublin wrote: »
    Of course i wouldnt. But that would be a biased opinion. Im taking him on the evidence i seen from the state. Nothing else.



    There's nothing biased about it. Most normal people, that don't associate themselves with murderers and scumbags, are horrified at the thoughts of someone with 69 convictions by the age of 21 being free to lead two other men armed with a baseball into an elderly mans home and watch him being killed sitting in his own armchair, that's bizarre. That should not be allowed to happen. Whatever kind of crap you're mixed up with yourself, thats where the problem is, not in civilised society. Most of us care about human life.


  • #350
    MartyDublin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 131 ✭✭MartyDublin


    Liamo08 wrote: »
    So I take it we both agree that he has committed a lot of previous crimes? So I'll ask you again how would you feel about him if the victims of some of these crimes were people you cared about?

    Your obviously an idiot. I answered it i said id have a biased opinion of him if a family member was affected.


  • #351
    HensVassal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    ThinkProgress wrote: »
    Well, let me call out the laughably ridiculous comments about the so-called civilized society you think we're all living in... where someone with 67 priors can walk the streets wielding a baseball bat, drunk and off his head on drugs... and cave in the head of some helpless pensioner!

    It's your softly, softly approach that means these guys get a slap on the wrist so many times before they commit these acts.

    If we were harder on young offenders in particular, there is a good chance that they would not go on to do these things. They prey on weakness, because no one stands up to them...

    Too many people are worried about being perceived as harsh or "uncivilized" in our treatment of them... and they're laughing at all of us!

    Why don't you give your arse a chance and stop frothing at the mouth. It's your typical infantile response to anyone who disagrees with your suggestions that they be shot at dawn or worked to death and tortured, that I must consequently want them to be wrapped in cotton wool and pampered. Why the fuck are you trying to maintain that that's my position?
    Why does your ilk always assume that if people don't agree with your desire for the most barbaric forms of punishment and retribution then the only alternative must be that they want the criminals to be molly-coddled? Is that how binary your world is?


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  • #352
    Liamo08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭Liamo08


    MartyDublin wrote: »
    Your obviously an idiot. I answered it i said id have a biased opinion of him if a family member was affected.

    Haha good one, so it's all good to commit these crimes as long as it's not to someone you know?


  • #353
    HensVassal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    lawlolawl wrote: »
    Why does any of this matter? Clearly the saintly left wing has failed me and tens of thousands of others in this country who work well over 40 hours a week.

    It matters because you brought it up and are now ducking the question. You seem to think that right wing winner takes all approaches to governance somehow benefits society. Worse still you think it will benefit YOU.....like you might get a few crumbs from the table of those who fleece out the public purse for private interests.
    You bitch about others who do fuck all while you toil. You wouldn't last pissing time in a society that had zero protections and social programs.
    You bleat on about zero tolerance and grinding convicts into the ground to teach them a lesson yet in places where this philosophy is de rigeur you would be begging for a few "hippies" to fight your corner if you were wrongly convicted of smoking a joint and faced 10 years in an appalling US prison.


  • #354
    HensVassal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    Liamo08 wrote: »
    So you're saying he was innocent of all the crimes he's ever committed that have had an impact on multiple victims?

    Where did he say that?


  • #355
    Dick phelan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,062 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    A justice system is well and truly broken when someone with 60 odd convictions is allowed freedom, same with the other two but the first guys conviction tally is baffling, i believe firmly in second chances for most things but 60 chances no way, the 3 should be locked up and the key thrown away,absolute scum of the earth who should never have been free to commit this crime in the first place.


  • #356
    HensVassal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    Dick phelan wrote: »
    A justice system is well and truly broken when someone with 60 odd convictions is allowed freedom, same with the other two but the first guys conviction tally is baffling, i believe firmly in second chances for most things but 60 chances no way, the 3 should be locked up and the key thrown away,absolute scum of the earth who should never have been free to commit this crime in the first place.

    Nobody's is disagreeing with this but on this thread you have one or more blaming this state of affairs on "lefties".
    I'd like to ask them where were their "right-wing" politicians and advocates in the last 25 years to enforce these tougher measures? After all it's not a bunch of new-age crusties running the country. Who is responsible for this level of laissez-faire when it comes to criminality and more importantly who is responsible for not clamping down on it?


  • #357
    lawlolawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    HensVassal wrote: »
    You bleat on about zero tolerance and grinding convicts into the ground to teach them a lesson yet in places where this philosophy is de rigeur you would be begging for a few "hippies" to fight your corner if you were wrongly convicted of smoking a joint and faced 10 years in an appalling US prison.

    I've never smoked a cigarette let alone a joint.

    I don't break the law so i'd be fine in your theoretical right wing society. Don't presume that everyone is as big a piece of garbage as the people you are trying and failing to defend.


  • #358
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,321 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    I have to disagree with you Marty, if this guy you think will get cleared in a few months is of sound mind I would seriously question your sanity. If this guy was Innocent of this wouldn't he have tried to kill his mates and scream at them 'Are you fcuking out of your minds' when they started hitting the old fellah, I don't buy it. All I can think of is that maybe he was stupefied, smashed drunk and high on methadrone, probably laughing his head off and not realising what was happening. No can't buy that either.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #359
    MartyDublin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 131 ✭✭MartyDublin


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    I have to disagree with you Marty, if this guy you think will get cleared in a few months is of sound mind I would seriously question your sanity. If this guy was Innocent of this wouldn't he have tried to kill his mates and scream at them 'Are you fcuking out of your minds' when they started hitting the old fellah, I don't buy it. All I can think of is that maybe he was stupefied, smashed drunk and high on methadrone, probably laughing his head off and not realising what was happening. No can't buy that either.

    Mate its a technicality he will be released. DPP have already offered a plea deal for new charges he rejected it. Cya in february Matty


  • #360
    Letree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭Letree


    MartyDublin wrote: »
    Mate its a technicality he will be released. DPP have already offered a plea deal for new charges he rejected it. Cya in february Matty

    Marty no offense but you seem to be so surrounded by scumbaggery that you have lost sight of what a normal decent human being is. You have been standing up for this guy as if all he did was steal a packet of fags from a shop. All while being up for a murder charge yourself. What sort of world do you live in.


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  • #361
    MartyDublin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 131 ✭✭MartyDublin


    Letree wrote: »
    Marty no offense but you seem to be so surrounded by scumbaggery that you have lost sight of what a normal decent human being is. You have been standing up for this guy as if all he did was steal a packet of fags from a shop. All while being up for a murder charge yourself. What sort of world do you live in.

    So cause im charged with murder im a scumbag


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