3 lowlifes get life for bashing a man to death.

Kristopherus · 10-10-2016 02:48PM #1

3 lowlife scumbags have got life in jail for bashing a 64-year-old man to death in Co Offaly after a drink & drug-fuelled evening/night of debauchery.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/we-never-got-to-say-goodbye-family-of-elderly-man-beaten-to-death-with-baseball-bat-after-night-of-carnage-35118028.html.

On reading stories like the above,I really hope that life means life in such cases:mad:

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 10-10-2016 03:17PM

I know one of them, had a quick look on Facebook to see if it was the same guy. The sh1t some people go on with. "Happy birthday pal, sometimes it's better in jail. We'll celebrate in style when you win the war" wtf? The poor old man. What an awful way to die, battered to death by 3 little junkies off their heads on God knows what? Hopefully like you said life is life, and they're not out in their 30s, with other scumbags sympathising with the injustice of them having the best years of their lives taken from them.

eeguy · 10-10-2016 03:20PM

69 convictions,
7 convictions,
21 convictions.

Scum like that should have been jailed for life long ago.

lawlolawl · 10-10-2016 03:25PM

Heard on the news that they had a ton of priors between them, some for violent crimes.

Once again we are shown that rehabilitation is a myth.

mzungu · 10-10-2016 03:40PM

Poor man.

Does life here mean, 10-15 years and then a chance of getting out on good behaviour?

TeaBagMania · 10-10-2016 03:41PM

Perfect example of why capital punishment should be reinstated
Tax payers should not have to house, feed, and support these scum bags for the rest of their life

10-10-2016 03:46PM

TeaBagMania wrote: »

Perfect example of why capital punishment should be reinstated
Tax payers should not have to house, feed, and support these scum bags for the rest of their life

Agreed. Rope and Construction of gallows should be the taxpayers expense at this stage. These people showed no remorse. They need to be put down. Wouldnt eliminate murders but would prevent a hell of alot id imagine

Winterlong · 10-10-2016 03:52PM

Absolute scangers. And apologies to any scangers who are offended by the comparison.

SEPT 23 1989 · 10-10-2016 03:52PM

I think a confined to a wheelchair level beating with his own baseball bat would be more fitting and cheaper

lawlolawl · 10-10-2016 04:14PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I think a confined to a wheelchair level beating with his own baseball bat would be more fitting and cheaper

That would probably just get them out earlier and then the state has to care for their every need as regards their disability.

Killing them would just be easier.

Kristopherus · 10-10-2016 04:17PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I think a confined to a wheelchair level beating with his own baseball bat would be more fitting and cheaper

Well. he'd most likely qualify for Disability Allowance then:mad:. Another expense on the taxpayer:mad:.

On the other hand, if he still had to go to jail, he'd get sfa.

cometogether · 10-10-2016 04:20PM

Seems like the boys are fond of their drugs, would there be any major objections to giving them enough of them in prison to overdose and end their miserable lives?

10-10-2016 04:21PM

lawlolawl wrote: »

That would probably just get them out earlier and then the state has to care for their every need as regards their disability.

Killing them would just be easier.

Death by anti aircraft gun Kim Jong style? I think its warranted for these fúckers if not a bit too quick. Maybe a slow torturous bludgeoning with their own baseball bats

Fleawuss · 10-10-2016 04:21PM

Another innocent life cruelly and viciously taken; the state is negligent IMHO for not putting these people away for life years ago. And to say the unsayable, one look at their pictures on the news and you knew what you were dealing with. No TD should have respite this week from this case.

Surreptitious · 10-10-2016 04:22PM

That's absolutely disgusting. The man must have been terrified. Low life scumbags.

Tombi! · 10-10-2016 04:27PM

I don't understand how these animals are allowed to be free.
I don't mean now. In general, if he has violent convictions going back to 2008, when he was 14, surely, after say... two convictions, it might be time to understand that we can't realize him back into society until he's able to act like a person.

I read the article.
I understand arson and baseball bats are things they like.
Public execution by beating them half to death then setting the scum on fire.

Carlos Orange · 10-10-2016 04:28PM

mzungu wrote: »

Poor man.

Does life here mean, 10-15 years and then a chance of getting out on good behaviour?

Based on this story I saw on the right hand side of the Independent it can mean 7 years in jail.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/i-need-to-make-sure-he-serves-every-second-possible-killer-of-mother-and-two-daughters-applies-for-parole-after-just-eight-years-35117989.html

AlekSmart · 10-10-2016 04:41PM

Kristopherus wrote: »

3 lowlife scumbags have got life in jail for bashing a 64-year-old man to death in Co Offaly after a drink & drug-fuelled evening/night of debauchery.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/we-never-got-to-say-goodbye-family-of-elderly-man-beaten-to-death-with-baseball-bat-after-night-of-carnage-35118028.html.

On reading stories like the above,I really hope that life means life in such cases:mad:

Sadly,but inevitably,in this State,a Life sentence,even for the most savage of murders means othing of the sort.

Just read through this account of what constitutes "Justice" in Irish terms...

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/i-need-to-make-sure-he-serves-every-second-possible-killer-of-mother-and-two-daughters-applies-for-parole-after-just-eight-years-35117989.html

Hennessy (The Murderer) had previously been handed three life sentences, to be served one after the other, for the Christmas morning murders.

In November 2010 (2 Years after the murders) the killer succeeded in his uncontested application to the Court of Criminal Appeal to have all three life sentences run concurrently.

UNCONTESTED !..WTF ?

For sure,to have a Consecutive sentence imposed by a Trial Judge in an Irish Court is indeed a rare occurrence,so when such event does occur,it is to reflect the severity of the Crime (which in this case it most certainly did)

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/postman-gets-three-life-terms-for-murder-of-family-26583194.html

Then,barely a year after the thoroughly appropriate sentence,this individual brings an appeal which The State,not alone fails to contest,but also fails to advise the victim's family of it's abandonment of them.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/family-cant-believe-killer-could-serve-just-12-years-26696281.html

John Whelan said his family had been "badly let down by the State". "We had no contact from the DPP -- there was nobody in touch with me. We were told by the guards that this appeal was just a formality, just a routine and that nothing would change."

The relationship between State and Citizen in modern Ireland has been fraught for quite some time,but this case really does underline the level of contempt,in which ordinary law abiding people are held by sections of both our Administration AND it's Judiciary.

Are we being asked to accept that a Court of Criminal Appeal is comprised of Justices so thoroughly devoid of reason,commonsense and simple decency,that it can cast aside the murders of two small children as if they counted for naught ?

What a disgrace this decision was.

A disgrace which now appears set to be compounded by even more recent events to see the Murderer released even sooner.

I,for one,sincerely hope that the Whelan Family succeed in shaming some of the Political and Judical leadership of this State into addressing this shameful carry-on.

The Trial judge handed down an appropriate (for once) sentence,which at the very least,should have been robustly endorsed and defended by the State...Why was it not so defended ?

Gatling · 10-10-2016 04:47PM

They will likely be out in 4-6 considering time on remand ,
But as we all well know there is no justice in this country only excuses for the perpetrators and little consideration for the victims and their families .

zSparc · 10-10-2016 04:49PM

A single bullet in the neck, cremate the bodies and dispose the ashes.
It's so very simple, but who would be feeding fat lawyers then...?

lawlolawl · 10-10-2016 04:51PM

Tombi! wrote: »

I don't understand how these animals are allowed to be free.
I don't mean now. In general, if he has violent convictions going back to 2008, when he was 14, surely, after say... two convictions, it might be time to understand that we can't realize him back into society until he's able to act like a person.

I read the article.
I understand arson and baseball bats are things they like.
Public execution by beating them half to death then setting the scum on fire.

The justice system in this country has been neutered by decades of left leaning "intellectuals" running it and slowly chipping away at any chance it has of being a deterrent.

The perpetrators are seen as the real victims now and are to be handled with kid gloves lest we violate their precious human rights which they themselves clearly highly value when they are caving in a pensioners head with a baseball bat.

I would genuinely support a reintroduction of the death penalty. I'd vote for any political party who was in favor of it.

lawlolawl · 10-10-2016 04:54PM

zSparc wrote: »

A single bullet in the neck, cremate the bodies and dispose the ashes.
It's so very simple, but who would be feeding fat lawyers then...?

Yeah, if you are found 100% guilty of murder then you get a week after sentencing to say your goodbyes/get your affairs in order and then it's execution time and your body is incinerated afterwards.

If you think that is unreasonable then don't murder someone.

demanufactured · 10-10-2016 04:55PM

Drown the ****ers....

Kiith · 10-10-2016 04:56PM

3 violent crimes, and you go away for 20 years. Tough ****...you had 3 chances and you blew it.

Absolute scum like these three would have been put away a long time ago, and the country would have been better for it.

Your Face · 10-10-2016 04:56PM

That was a rough read.
Horrible thing they did to that man.

Harry Palmr · 10-10-2016 04:56PM

Wow, it's a bit right wing in here! You'd soon be complaining if this was about Irish in England and message boards saying kill 'em.

Gatling · 10-10-2016 04:58PM

Kiith wrote: »

3 violent crimes, and you go away for 20 years. Tough ****...you had 3 chances and you blew it.

A certain politician suggested such in the run up to the election ,
People rubbished the idea as* being *too American

Harry Palmr · 10-10-2016 05:03PM

being too....

Gatling · 10-10-2016 05:05PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

being too....

Fixed

Heil

10-10-2016 05:26PM

Gatling wrote: »

They will likely be out in 4-6 considering time on remand ,
But as we all well know there is no justice in this country only excuses for the perpetrators and little consideration for the victims and their families .

Bullsh*t. If they got a life sentence then they won't be out in 4-6 years. You have to serve 7 before you're eligible to be in front of the parole board. Nobody gets out after 7. 15 or 16 is probably the earliest they'd walk. Remand has nothing to do with a life sentence either btw.

AlekSmart · 10-10-2016 05:40PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Bullsh*t. If they got a life sentence then they won't be out in 4-6 years. You have to serve 7 before you're eligible to be in front of the parole board. Nobody gets out after 7. 15 or 16 is probably the earliest they'd walk. Remand has nothing to do with a life sentence either btw.

You may well consider it Bulshytt,but that is'nt preventing members of the Legal Proffession from making strenuous attempts to stick to your timetable....to the minute,it seems

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/i-need-to-make-sure-he-serves-every-second-possible-killer-of-mother-and-two-daughters-applies-for-parole-after-just-eight-years-35117989.html

The brother of Sharon Whelan, who was murdered on Christmas Day in 2008, is fighting to keep killer Brian Hennessy in jail as he applies for parole.

Sharon Whelan was raped and strangled to death before her two daughters, Zsara (seven) and Nadia (two) died from smoke inhalation when Hennessy set fire to the house.

Sharon’s brother John spoke on The Anton Savage Show on TodayFM following the news that Hennessy is applying for parole.

I'm hopeful that these Legal Proffessionals are WRONG and that you are Correct about the 15 years,but I'm not holding my breath either....:(

LordSutch · 10-10-2016 05:41PM

When I read about the story I was reminded of that awful 'Baseball bat scene' in Inglorious basterds!

Capital punishment for the perpetrators?

Harvey Normal · 10-10-2016 05:50PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Bullsh*t. If they got a life sentence then they won't be out in 4-6 years. You have to serve 7 before you're eligible to be in front of the parole board. Nobody gets out after 7. 15 or 16 is probably the earliest they'd walk. Remand has nothing to do with a life sentence either btw.

If nobody gets out until 15 years is up why does the parole board meet after 7?

questionmark? · 10-10-2016 05:50PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Wow, it's a bit right wing in here! You'd soon be complaining if this was about Irish in England and message boards saying kill 'em.

It's because people are sick of seen innocent members of the public killed, assaulted, robbed etc.. and done by people who should have been in jail but were not due to to the pathetic irish legal system that gives people a slap on the wrist and asks them to be nicer next time.

moc moc a moc · 10-10-2016 05:52PM

eeguy wrote: »

69 convictions,
7 convictions,
21 convictions.

No doubt most of the "sentences" for these convictions were suspended.

I wonder what their previous judges think about the likelihood that if these scrotes had been in prison as they already should have, this man would still be alive?

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Wow, it's a bit right wing in here!

Well, we're seeing what leftie "justice" gets us here, aren't we.

mzungu · 10-10-2016 05:56PM

LordSutch wrote: »

Capital punishment for the perpetrators?

No, I'd prefer if they were kept in jail until they die of natural causes. If they can't behave properly in a civil society, then the prison system is truly where they belong.

mynamejeff · 10-10-2016 05:58PM

Gatling wrote: »

A certain politician suggested such in the run up to the election ,
People rubbished the idea as* being *too American

what politician was that ?

corner of hells · 10-10-2016 06:03PM

Harvey Normal wrote: »

If nobody gets out until 15 years is up why does the parole board meet after 7?

The parole looks at an individual to see if he is still a threat in society, has engaged with services in prison , would he benefit from release ie is ill, infirm etc. It's doesn't necessarily apply to a life sentence.It's applied to prisoner's serving 14+ years.
There three are unlikely to get out for years.

DrumSteve · 10-10-2016 06:03PM

All the people calling for the death penalty are wrong IMO. Some ridiculous suggestions above.

It costs more to actually administer it, than to keep them in prison. Also I'm not a major fan of state sanctioned murder as I like to think I live in a civilised country.

mynamejeff · 10-10-2016 06:03PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Bullsh*t. If they got a life sentence then they won't be out in 4-6 years. You have to serve 7 before you're eligible to be in front of the parole board. Nobody gets out after 7. 15 or 16 is probably the earliest they'd walk. Remand has nothing to do with a life sentence either btw.

well no not quite ,
if some one goes into custody by consent the day after they commit a murder and they are subsequently convicted of murder and get life say two years after they go into custody. .
when they come before the parole board after 7 years the evidence put forward by the solicitor will be that went in by consent and should be entitled to benefit from that.

the best solution in cases like this it that they are never ever allowed to leave a secure facility as long as they are alive or they are quitly quickly and humanly killed which is more than the gave to that man they killed

DrumSteve · 10-10-2016 06:04PM

mynamejeff wrote: »

well no not quite ,
if some one goes into custody by consent the day after they commit a murder and they are subsequently convicted of murder and get life say two years after they go into custody. .
when they come before the parole board after 7 years the evidence put forward by the solicitor will be that went in by consent and should be entitled to benefit from that.

the best solution in cases like this it that they are never ever allowed to leave a secure facility as long as they are alive or they are humanly killed which is more than the gave to that man they killed

Is there a humane way to murder a person?

mynamejeff · 10-10-2016 06:06PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

Is there a humane way to murder a person?

more so than with baseball bats ?

ya bullet in the brain , gas, hanging catapulting for all i care , animals like thats comfort isnt really a concern of mine

DrumSteve · 10-10-2016 06:08PM

mynamejeff wrote: »

more so than with baseball bats ?

ya bullet in the brain , gas, hanging catapulting for all i care , animals like thats comfort isnt really a concern of mine

Right so.

Gatling · 10-10-2016 06:09PM

mynamejeff wrote: »

what politician was that ?

Lucinda Creighton (former politician) ?.

She wanted a 3 strikes and your out system for people who carry out serious crimes

lawlolawl · 10-10-2016 06:26PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

It costs more to actually administer it, than to keep them in prison. Also I'm not a major fan of state sanctioned murder as I like to think I live in a civilised country.

That's because an increasing left leaning justice system has caused it to be so convoluted and expensive to administer. Make it an unpopular concept through this reason and various others and it's easier to dismiss it.

You live in a civilized country that allows violent criminals with double or triple digit priors walk the streets so that they can beat a pensioner to death.

Surreptitious · 10-10-2016 06:28PM

The worst thing about it is how nice the man was. He willingly left them into his house and was having a beer with them. How was he to know them would turn on him out of the blue? And what about what they did to that woman's house? She would have been killed too most likely if she hadn't gone to bed early. No respect for human life was shown here. They had a massive string of convictions and it was only a matter of time before they got increasingly worse. Such was the case that they were allowed run riot for so long that they lost all sense of the law.

dd972 · 10-10-2016 06:30PM

Not victim blaming and maybe he grew up in more innocent times but I read that the victim frequently had people drinking at his house and coming and going at all hours of the night, why anyone would want those three Neds in their home is beyond me, especially if your in your 60's.

The Wolverine · 10-10-2016 06:37PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

All the people calling for the death penalty are wrong IMO. Some ridiculous suggestions above.

It costs more to actually administer it, than to keep them in prison. Also I'm not a major fan of state sanctioned murder as I like to think I live in a civilised country.

If a "civilised" country is one where criminals can be waking the street with double or even triple digit numbers of convictions then it's a ****in insult to try and claim to have the moral high ground over countries with the death penalty.

DrumSteve · 10-10-2016 06:40PM

The Wolverine wrote: »

If a "civilised" country is one where criminals can be waking the street with double or even triple digit numbers of convictions then it's a ****in insult to try and claim to have the moral high ground over countries with the death penalty.

I never agreed with letting them out, they should have been in prison. It's the executions I don't agree with.

10-10-2016 06:42PM

eeguy wrote: »

69 convictions,
7 convictions,
21 convictions.

.

This sickened me almost more than what they did to that poor elderly man. The guy with the 69 convictions had six convictions for arson and 25 for burglary.

Surely, if nothing else, this is evidence that sentencing is completely ridiculous. Burglary or arson are crimes that deserve jail for the first offence, and multiple offences should mean considerably longer sentences. I wonder how long he actually spent behind bars for these 69 offences.?

Apart from the murder this guy has created misery for the 31 families that were burgled or burnt....

Is it a safe bet that he got multiple suspended sentences and mitigations because he liked drugs and couldnt handle his alcohol (that should be aggravating not mitigating in my book).

lawred2 · 10-10-2016 06:43PM

Depraved inhuman animals.

3 lowlifes get life for bashing a man to death.

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