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2016 U.S. Presidential Race Megathread Mark 2.

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  • #3392
    Amerika
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭Amerika


    oik wrote: »
    I think it means the phrase "everyday Americans"
    Absolutely. Those that represent 99% of America.

    So, who do you think she'll blame this time for her problems? Abe Lincoln, the Russians, or maybe someone new like George Washington. She hasn't used him yet.


  • #3393
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Amerika wrote: »
    Are you trying to tell me that her inner circle and closest confidants don't know her?


    If a mate of mine sent a controversial email about me, I'd be annoyed of people were using it to attack me.


  • #3394
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    Election Commissioner of New York admitting to massive voter fraud.

    "They bus people poll site to poll site."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUDTcxIqqM0

    This is the first of many videos to be released by O'Keefe.

    Proof finally that voter ID laws are not racist.


  • #3395
    Brian?
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,016 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    oik wrote: »
    They've been battleground states the whole time.

    This is the first time since LBJ ran that a Dem will win Georgia. Hardly a battleground state. Trump has driven Georgia and Arizona away.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • #3396
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    Brian? wrote: »
    This is the first time since LBJ ran that a Dem will win Georgia. Hardly a battleground state. Trump has driven Georgia and Arizona away.

    They have been battleground states since Trump secured the nomination.


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  • #3397
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    oik wrote: »
    More Podesta emails out today.
    Yeah, some real good ones; http://europe.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-sidney-blumenthal-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-benghazi-sputnik-508635?rm=eu


  • #3398
    Amerika
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭Amerika


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    If a mate of mine sent a controversial email about me, I'd be annoyed of people were using it to attack me.
    Okay. But what's your point? This is about a person running for public office and the strategy her campaign uses to combat her perception of the people she is supposed to represent. You don't think it's relevant, or is it just because it came out against Hillary, and not Trump?


  • #3399
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,063 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Amerika wrote: »
    First we find out she despises almost a quarter of the population as deplorable and irredeemable, and now per WikiLeaks from Clinton's campaign guru John Podesta: Hillary hates everyday Americans. So I have to wonder… Why is anyone, unless you’re part of Wall Street, 'With Her?"

    emailnew.jpg

    Jennifer Palmieri, Director of Communications for Hillary’s presidential campaign, apparently agreed with Podesta’s analysis and responded with “Truth.”

    I'm not so sure that means she hates "everyday Americans" - It's far more likely it means she hates the phrase "everyday americans"..

    For example I utterly detest the term "Ordinary Worker" that gets trotted out by the left in Ireland , it's a meaningless nonsensical term , but it doesn't mean I hate ordinary workers..

    I mean read the context of the mail - it says " we should use it once early on"

    If she hated actually "everyday Americans" why on Earth would she use it in her Campaign, even once????


  • #3400
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    oik wrote: »
    Election Commissioner of New York admitting to massive voter fraud.

    "They bus people poll site to poll site."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUDTcxIqqM0

    This is the first of many videos to be released by O'Keefe.

    Proof finally that voter ID laws are not racist.
    O'Keefe is a charlatan and a convicted criminal who creates deceptively edited videos that are absolute bull****.


  • #3401
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Donald to get less than 200 in the electoral college might be a nice money maker.


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  • #3402
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    dwayneshintzy wrote: »
    Yeah, some real good ones; http://europe.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-sidney-blumenthal-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-benghazi-sputnik-508635?rm=eu

    TL;DR


  • #3403
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    dwayneshintzy wrote: »
    O'Keefe is a charlatan and a convicted criminal who creates deceptively edited videos that are absolute bull****.

    Judge the video on its own merits.


  • #3404
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Amerika wrote: »
    Okay. But what's your point? This is about a person running for public office and the strategy her campaign uses to combat her perception of the people she is supposed to represent. You don't think it's relevant, or is it just because it came out against Hillary, and not Trump?


    My point is its all third party "dirt". When you can just quote the Donald directly for his issues.


  • #3405
    gosplan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,828 ✭✭✭gosplan


    You can see the experience of HRC here. So much digging going on and she hasn't left anything with her personal stamp on it. That whole hammer phone server thing was smart,


  • #3406
    gosplan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,828 ✭✭✭gosplan


    oik wrote: »
    Judge the video on its own merits.

    Yeah, just watch it and go with whatever you feel. That's what politics is all about.

    Who cares about accuracy?


  • #3407
    Amerika
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭Amerika


    gosplan wrote: »
    You can see the experience of HRC here. So much digging going on and she hasn't left anything with her personal stamp on it. That whole hammer phone server thing was smart,

    She outnixoned Nixon, eh? Smart!


  • #3408
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    gosplan wrote: »
    Yeah, just watch it and go with whatever you feel. That's what politics is all about.

    Who cares about accuracy?

    Tell me how it's inaccurate


  • #3409
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Its only smart if she doesn't end up the same way Nixon did.


  • #3410
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    The Donald on course for the biggest beating since Bob Dole.

    What a clown of a man.


  • #3411
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,108 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Amerika wrote: »
    Absolutely. Those that represent 99% of America.

    So, who do you think she'll blame this time for her problems? Abe Lincoln, the Russians, or maybe someone new like George Washington. She hasn't used him yet.

    Right it has been established that you are likely misreading the email but you also seem much less worried when it is Trump insulting segments of the us population. Or is it just when you identify with the particular demographic that you disagree with the insult?


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  • #3412
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Amerika wrote: »
    Absolutely. Those that represent 99% of America.

    So, who do you think she'll blame this time for her problems? Abe Lincoln, the Russians, or maybe someone new like George Washington. She hasn't used him yet.


    What problems? She's about to be the next president of the US?


  • #3413
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    oik wrote: »
    Judge the video on its own merits.
    There's no merit in his or his organisation's videos, they can't be trusted; http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/05/30/james-okeefe-accidentally-stings-himself


  • #3414
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    dwayneshintzy wrote: »
    There's no merit in his or his organisation's videos, they can't be trusted; http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/05/30/james-okeefe-accidentally-stings-himself

    The video should be judged on its own merit. You can look at it with all the scepticism you like, but there is content in there which clearly isn't fabricated. Your response seems like flailing.


  • #3415
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    oik wrote: »
    The video should be judged on its own merit. You can look at it with all the scepticism you like, but there is content in there which clearly isn't fabricated. Your response seems like flailing.

    The only think that's flailing is Trumps car crash of a presidential campaign.


  • #3416
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    Here we go lads. No dispute as to the video's authenticity.

    http://nypost.com/2016/10/11/elections-official-caught-on-video-blasting-de-blasios-id-program/
    Reached Monday night, Schulkin defended his videotaped remarks, with slight revisions.

    “I should have said ‘potential fraud’ instead of ‘fraud,’ ” he said.

    But he reiterated his support for a voter ID requirement.

    He recalled a woman asking him a lot of questions the night he was recorded.

    “She was like a nuisance. I was just trying to placate her,” he said.

    The board has two commissioners — one Democrat, one Republican — from each borough.


  • #3417
    Amerika
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭Amerika


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Right it has been established that you are likely misreading the email but you also seem much less worried when it is Trump insulting segments of the us population. Or is it just when you identify with the particular demographic that you disagree with the insult?
    They're both undesirable. (Happy?)

    Therefore, it comes down to who has the best economic policies for America. Trump wins on that count, hands down.


  • #3418
    gosplan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,828 ✭✭✭gosplan


    Amerika wrote: »
    She outnixoned Nixon, eh? Smart!

    Yeah, it was.

    Think Trump wouldn't have deleted the tape from the other day and whatever apprentice thing is going to come out.

    I'm not saying it was acceptable but from Hillary's point of view it was a smart move.


  • #3419
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    Amerika wrote: »
    They're both undesirable. (Happy?)

    Therefore, it comes down who has the best economic policies for America. Trump wins on that count, hands down.

    Hillary's saving grace is that her private policy is probably much better than her public policy.


  • #3420
    oik
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭oik


    gosplan wrote: »
    Think Trump wouldn't have deleted the tape from the other day and whatever apprentice thing is going to come out..

    Deleting an audio recording of yourself is not the same as deleting evidence under subpoena. Not that Trump did either.


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  • #3421
    Amerika
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭Amerika


    oik wrote: »
    Deleting an audio recording of yourself is not the same as deleting evidence under subpoena. Not that Trump did either.
    Bazinga!

    But, please, oh please, ignore the elephant in the room. :rolleyes:


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