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beef price tracker

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  • #5162
    Salrub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Salrub


    charolais0153 wrote: »
    I'm hearing 3.65 for ballyhaunis on monday

    Greatest shower of c***ts ever. Have lost whatever respect I had for the factories now. When you compare the price for similar animal over in England


  • #5163
    CloughCasey1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    charolais0153 wrote: »
    An agent

    Yup. Was talking to another lad last night and he said the same fella was happy out saying it!!


  • #5164
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,907 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    I reckon it is to try encourage winter finishers to go out and buy a few when the bfp lands next week. Larry and the big boys don't want to be left finishing ALL the cattle for the winter.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #5165
    Who2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,241 ✭✭✭Who2


    blue5000 wrote: »
    I reckon it is to try encourage winter finishers to go out and buy a few when the bfp lands next week. Larry and the big boys don't want to be left finishing ALL the cattle for the winter.

    I think it might have had the opposite effect


  • #5166
    charolais0153
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    He also said that's the bottom . the dry weather is helping things and will ensure a more even supply of cattle rather than these big busts of 35k


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  • #5167
    Cavanjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,864 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    It'll take another few boatloads of cattle to turkey to sort next years trade out.


  • #5168
    barnaman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭barnaman


    €3.65 price heard from a couple of agents and Bord Bia price and IMO heading to €3.60. Sterling making Irish beef expensive also its expensive compared to lots of EU countries.

    http://www.bordbia.ie/industry/farmers/pricetracking/cattle/pages/default.aspx

    http://www.bordbia.ie/industry/farmers/pricetracking/cattle/pages/eucountries.aspx?country=Czech
    http://www.bordbia.ie/industry/farmers/pricetracking/cattle/pages/eucountries.aspx?country=Belgium


  • #5169
    rangler1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    barnaman wrote: »
    €3.65 price heard from a couple of agents and Bord Bia price and IMO heading to €3.60. Sterling making Irish beef expensive also its expensive compared to lots of EU countries.

    http://www.bordbia.ie/industry/farmers/pricetracking/cattle/pages/default.aspx

    http://www.bordbia.ie/industry/farmers/pricetracking/cattle/pages/eucountries.aspx?country=Czech
    http://www.bordbia.ie/industry/farmers/pricetracking/cattle/pages/eucountries.aspx?country=Belgium

    Irish beef was always well priced compared with europe, used to amaze me on here the way posters blamed factories, ifa , the cat, for poor prices when all meat buyers had to do was buy beef from europe in stead of Ireland.
    The week i was in france last year, our price was 30c ahead of theirs


  • #5170
    restive
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭restive


    I killed an overage friesian today in Nepal. Only got docked 5cents rather than the usual 10 cents. Base 3.65.


  • #5171
    huey1975
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 494 ✭✭huey1975


    How much was the haulage to Nepal?


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  • #5172
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,173 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    I think he meant kepak (Athleague). Bloody spell check!


  • #5173
    restive
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭restive


    Sorry spell checker


  • #5174
    tatoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭tatoo


    restive wrote: »
    I killed an overage friesian today in Nepal. Only got docked 5cents rather than the usual 10 cents. Base 3.65.


    They're talking of 3.60 next week, we might be better off going to Nepal


  • #5175
    I said
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭I said


    restive wrote: »
    I killed an overage friesian today in Nepal. Only got docked 5cents rather than the usual 10 cents. Base 3.65.

    Prices are Catmandu at the moment


























    I'll get me coat


  • #5176
    dryan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 523 ✭✭✭dryan


    Anyone have any update on Steer factory prices?


  • #5177
    CHOPS01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 785 ✭✭✭CHOPS01


    dryan wrote: »
    Anyone have any update on Steer factory prices?

    Talking to agent an hour ago who I want to look at a few I have. Talking about 3.70


  • #5178
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,710 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    CHOPS01 wrote: »
    Talking to agent an hour ago who I want to look at a few I have. Talking about 3.70

    I suspect taht cattle prices will eise over next 15 days yhen hold as white meat takes over until the week before Christmass. Not a lot of cattle were put inside during Sept/Oct so it could be good over from Christmas to late January. Hard to know yet though.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #5179
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,907 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    How long more will cattle be killed off grass? There's still a few around here anyway. I reckon the weak sterling is a big factor this autumn, S cattle are probably no longer being killed up north.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #5180
    rangler1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    Bass Reeves wrote: »
    I suspect taht cattle prices will eise over next 15 days yhen hold as white meat takes over until the week before Christmass. Not a lot of cattle were put inside during Sept/Oct so it could be good over from Christmas to late January. Hard to know yet though.

    Most factories have their own cattle for December, there hasn't been a decent price rise in Deceber in a while


  • #5181
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,710 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    rangler1 wrote: »
    Most factories have their own cattle for December, there hasn't been a decent price rise in Deceber in a while

    With the exception of last year and 2013 always got a good price rise Christmas week. Generally factory's only chug along with what they get the weeks before Christmas. Cattle killed Christmas week are for the new year when red meat is back on the plate. Last year loads of lads put in cattle in September it did not happen this year. In 2013 Larry and co filled there sheds of Herefords and killed them for December and early January. It ruined the Bull trade.

    Every year is different but cattle prices rising at present which augars good for Christmas week and January

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • #5182
    Willfarman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    3.65 is as much as I've heard of.


  • #5183
    rangler1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    Bass Reeves wrote: »
    With the exception of last year and 2013 always got a good price rise Christmas week. Generally factory's only chug along with what they get the weeks before Christmas. Cattle killed Christmas week are for the new year when red meat is back on the plate. Last year loads of lads put in cattle in September it did not happen this year. In 2013 Larry and co filled there sheds of Herefords and killed them for December and early January. It ruined the Bull trade.

    Every year is different but cattle prices rising at present which augars good for Christmas week and January

    Has there been any december that they made €4/kg for ordinary farmers, isn't that always the time that farmers start complaining......I should know


  • #5184
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,710 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    rangler1 wrote: »
    Has there been any december that they made €4/kg for ordinary farmers, isn't that always the time that farmers start complaining......I should know

    Got a base of 4/kg if I remember right for cattle Christmas week 2014. Got 4.2/kg of a base in January. Christmass Week 2012 got either 3.9 or 4Kg for O grade bulls they were killed as bullocks on the sheets lot of that went on before the horse meat saga. They used to take bulls up to 30 months of age.

    Used to do 15-20 every year from 2010-2013. I would buy them as weanlings previous autumn 12 months, 6-10 would go 2-4 days before Christmas rest before end of January. 2013 killed it processors were killing the HEx bullocks that all the store men cleaned up with in September selling to Larry's feedlots. He used them to depress price of cattle from before Christmas all winter long.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #5185
    barnaman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭barnaman


    Not a chance of a lift. 7 weeks left in the year and plenty cattle left about. If selling 28 day steak cuts etc thats 4 weeks of the seven accounted for. Those steaks etc will have a 1 week shelf life so not going to be a shortage for the factory for Xmas/ New Year; that kill will be sorted by the end of Nov.


  • #5186
    rangler1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    Bass Reeves wrote: »
    Got a base of 4/kg if I remember right for cattle Christmas week 2014. Got 4.2/kg of a base in January. Christmass Week 2012 got either 3.9 or 4Kg for O grade bulls they were killed as bullocks on the sheets lot of that went on before the horse meat saga. They used to take bulls up to 30 months of age.

    Used to do 15-20 every year from 2010-2013. I would buy them as weanlings previous autumn 12 months, 6-10 would go 2-4 days before Christmas rest before end of January. 2013 killed it processors were killing the HEx bullocks that all the store men cleaned up with in September selling to Larry's feedlots. He used them to depress price of cattle from before Christmas all winter long.

    I got severely criticised on here when I told people here that I knew farmers that were getting €4/kg in 2014......you must be one of their pets .
    As i said I should remember......unreal the hassle i got over it


  • #5187
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,710 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    rangler1 wrote: »
    I got severely criticised on here when I told people here that I knew farmers that were getting €4/kg in 2014......you must be one of their pets .
    As i said I should remember......unreal the hassle i got over it

    It was the rest of 2014 that was a disaster Rangler all the other 50 weeks. Base was 3.5 from August -November slight climb after that and a jump the week before Christmas. 3.4/kg for O grade bulls in February, 3.7 base for March/April, Base of 3.9 in May/June dropped start of July. Not sure did it bottom out below 3.5/kg at 3.4 or 3.3 in November. Had some Friesian Bullocks and housed them in early October ( weather was very wet) and sold them week before Christmas. IF a price rise comes during the winter finishing period you see it the week before Christmas.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #5188
    rangler1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    Bass Reeves wrote: »
    It was the rest of 2014 that was a disaster Rangler all the other 50 weeks. Base was 3.5 from August -November slight climb after that and a jump the week before Christmas. 3.4/kg for O grade bulls in February, 3.7 base for March/April, Base of 3.9 in May/June dropped start of July. Not sure did it bottom out below 3.5/kg at 3.4 or 3.3 in November. Had some Friesian Bullocks and housed them in early October ( weather was very wet) and sold them week before Christmas. IF a price rise comes during the winter finishing period you see it the week before Christmas.

    As I say €4 It wasn't available to ordinary farmers, but it was available to a few. I used to always have a load of heifers ready before christmas from the suckler herd and used to get a really good price from them, but then they rented a feedlot and didn't care whether they got them or not. That was around late 90s and they used to be actively looking for cattle in December


  • #5189
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,907 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    rangler1 wrote: »
    As I say €4 It wasn't available to ordinary farmers, but it was available to a few. I used to always have a load of heifers ready before christmas from the suckler herd and used to get a really good price from them, but then they rented a feedlot and didn't care whether they got them or not. That was around late 90s and they used to be actively looking for cattle in December

    R'downey by any chance? Used to be v.good week after christmas alright.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #5190
    CloughCasey1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Larry is trying to to get lads to panic sell!!

    http://www.farmersjournal.ie/cattle-to-sell-beef-prices-on-the-increase-236121

    On Saturday, a number of factories paid farmers 5c/kg to 10c/kg above quoted prices.

    At the top end of the market a base of €3.85/kg was paid for steers, increasing to €3.95/kg base for heifers. Tighter supplies are as a result of the transition from grass-finished to shed-finished cattle.

    An unseasonably dry October has slowed down the housing of stock and this has resulted in a lower number of shed cattle coming for fit for slaughter.

    With Christmas orders to fill, factory agents are very keen to secure stock for the weeks ahead.

    Currency volatility

    After a six weeks of downward pressure, farmers now have an opportunity to drive the trade. Most agents are predicting that the supply and demand situation will see prices break the €4/kg barrier before Christmas. Of course, much will depend on currency volatility.

    There has been positive movement in this regard over the past 48 hours, with sterling having strengthened against the euro by just over 3%.


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  • #5191
    Cavanjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,864 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    CloughCasey1 wrote: »
    Larry is trying to to get lads to panic sell!!

    http://www.farmersjournal.ie/cattle-to-sell-beef-prices-on-the-increase-236121

    On Saturday, a number of factories paid farmers 5c/kg to 10c/kg above quoted prices.

    At the top end of the market a base of €3.85/kg was paid for steers, increasing to €3.95/kg base for heifers. Tighter supplies are as a result of the transition from grass-finished to shed-finished cattle.

    An unseasonably dry October has slowed down the housing of stock and this has resulted in a lower number of shed cattle coming for fit for slaughter.

    With Christmas orders to fill, factory agents are very keen to secure stock for the weeks ahead.

    Currency volatility

    After a six weeks of downward pressure, farmers now have an opportunity to drive the trade. Most agents are predicting that the supply and demand situation will see prices break the €4/kg barrier before Christmas. Of course, much will depend on currency volatility.

    There has been positive movement in this regard over the past 48 hours, with sterling having strengthened against the euro by just over 3%.
    €4? They are probably trying to get lads to fill sheds with talk like that.


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