beef price tracker

charolais0153

Got 3.34 for r grade cow

blue5000

Wonder will they try pull the price tomorrow (Friday)?

darragh_haven

Agent here said €3.80/kg for steers till Friday. Can't tell me if it'll hold for monday or it'll be back to €3.75

Most likely 3.75 tho

blue5000

darragh_haven wrote: »

Agent here said €3.80/kg for steers till Friday. Can't tell me if it'll hold for monday or it'll be back to €3.75

Most likely 3.75 tho

Ya I couldn't get a definite price today either for next week. Have you a load to go?

Bass Reeves

Count Mondego wrote: »

Prices only go one direction this time of year I'm afraid.

Cattle Numbers are very tight. Unlike last year there will not be a lot of 2015 cattle coming off grass fit for slaughter to help fill the gap. Processors had hoped this would be the case. Not saying they will go up but do not see any significent price drop either.

restive

3.85 base for heifers in kepak yesterday.

Willfarman

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Cattle Numbers are very tight. Unlike last year there will not be a lot of 2015 cattle coming off grass fit for slaughter to help fill the gap. Processors had hoped this would be the case. Not saying they will go up but do not see any significent price drop either.

This year I am inclined to agree with you bass. I think the pull will come as always now as grass and ground head for Autumn but this will be reversed as quick. U.K. Market is firm and even strengthening slightly. Good news.

Mooooo

Any fear a dairy cull could supply those numbers to drop the price. Advice at our group seems to be offload the cull now as better price may be obtained as opposed to when the usual flush comes which may see them finished earlier than normal?

blue5000

Mooooo wrote: »

Any fear a dairy cull could supply those numbers to drop the price. Advice at our group seems to be offload the cull now as better price may be obtained as opposed to when the usual flush comes which may see them finished earlier than normal?

A strong dairy cull now would benefit everyone (beef and dairy farmers) down the road. Happened in the states a few years back, but it takes a long time for numbers to re-build, 4 years maybe. There's an awful lot of beef calves to come from the dairy herd next year, big herd near here and all beef bulls running with cows, no ai.

Bass Reeves

Mooooo wrote: »

Any fear a dairy cull could supply those numbers to drop the price. Advice at our group seems to be offload the cull now as better price may be obtained as opposed to when the usual flush comes which may see them finished earlier than normal?

A cull of dairy cows is weather dependent and unlikely to happen pre November. Most dairy farmers will continue to milk these cows as long as grass grows as she would be producing 3+ euro/day of milk. While some cows are fairly fit exiting the parlour not all culls are.

QA1

Rang my 2agents this morning 1abp 3.75 for bullocks on grid full for this week and next week he said price will be 3.70 he reckons for next week and Fridays cattle this week dawn same 3.75 base full for this week .I have none going over age for 3 or4 weeks so going to leave them thrive away

Bass Reeves

QA1 wrote: »

Rang my 2agents this morning 1abp 3.75 for bullocks on grid full for this week and next week he said price will be 3.70 he reckons for next week and Fridays cattle this week dawn same 3.75 base full for this week .I have none going over age for 3 or4 weeks so going to leave them thrive away

Find it hard to believe that any factory is full for next two weeks. I know that with rain for last two weeks there might be some lads on wetter ground offloading cattle but hard to see a glut of cattle.

blue5000

QA1 wrote: »

Rang my 2agents this morning 1abp 3.75 for bullocks on grid full for this week and next week he said price will be 3.70 he reckons for next week and Fridays cattle this week dawn same 3.75 base full for this week .I have none going over age for 3 or4 weeks so going to leave them thrive away

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Find it hard to believe that any factory is full for next two weeks. I know that with rain for last two weeks there might be some lads on wetter ground offloading cattle but hard to see a glut of cattle.

I honestly think it's cash flow, the whole country is waiting for 16th Oct. Agents know this too.
Other possibility is there's good value in the marts, fr bull weanlings are 3 for a thousand, these would get a good bit of weight up on grass before housing and won't poach the place either.

charolais0153

blue5000 wrote: »

I honestly think it's cash flow, the whole country is waiting for 16th Oct. Agents know this too.
Other possibility is there's good value in the marts, fr bull weanlings are 3 for a thousand, these would get a good bit of weight up on grass before housing and won't poach the place either.

Why 16th october

Bass Reeves

charolais0153 wrote: »

Why 16th october

SFP. However I think it effect is over rated when you look at the price of store at present

darragh_haven

blue5000 wrote: »

Ya I couldn't get a definite price today either for next week. Have you a load to go?

Have about 15 to go. Leaving it up to my dad as I'm flat out with other work

CloughCasey1

charolais0153 wrote: »

Why 16th october

Tis easy known its not going into your bank account!😉

charolais0153

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Tis easy known its not going into your bank account!😉

Ya smart hoor

tatoo

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Find it hard to believe that any factory is full for next two weeks. I know that with rain for last two weeks there might be some lads on wetter ground offloading cattle but hard to see a glut of cattle.

Some of them are cutting back on the number of days that they're killing next week, the cynic in me says that they're trying to create a bit of a backlog amongst suppliers.....and hey presto - a price cut.

Bass Reeves

tatoo wrote: »

Some of them are cutting back on the number of days that they're killing next week, the cynic in me says that they're trying to create a bit of a backlog amongst suppliers.....and hey presto - a price cut.

The ploughing is the week after next, they always struggle to get cattle that week. it might just be a case what we have we hold.

Salrub

The factories know exactly the number of cattle coming near 30 months so they price with that in mind. Totally wrong and screwing the farmer. First ones here not over 30 months till 25th September so going to chance holding them till then and hopefully it will rise from 3.75 which in being quoted now

cute geoge

Salrub wrote: »

The factories know exactly the number of cattle coming near 30 months so they price with that in mind. Totally wrong and screwing the farmer. First ones here not over 30 months till 25th September so going to chance holding them till then and hopefully it will rise from 3.75 which in being quoted now

It is the same story every year,the problem is the price could drop to 3.70 as easy ,the majority of dairy bred stock being born around end of march into april is no help as well as the weather to also contend with

Salrub

cute geoge wrote: »

It is the same story every year,the problem is the price could drop to 3.70 as easy ,the majority of dairy bred stock being born around end of march into april is no help as well as the weather to also contend with

If it goes down to 3.70 we are all up the creek.

mf240

I've been selling a few as they come fit.

Last bunch are getting a bit of meal and will try hold them till Nov.

As bad as 3.70 /80 is of grass it has to be better than 4 or even 4.25 out of shed.

cute geoge

mf240 wrote: »

I've been selling a few as they come fit.

Last bunch are getting a bit of meal and will try hold them till Nov.

As bad as 3.70 /80 is of grass it has to be better than 4 or even 4.25 out of shed.

Would not be well up on the economics of fattening but know 3.80 is piss poor as alot of stock wont grade and price is alot lower ,but how do you figure it is better then 4 out of the shed.
And the big question will lads see €4 for cattle out the shed next year

blue5000

http://www.icbf.com/?p=6243

Fair spike for 30 months down the track from feb-apr 2015. By my rough pack of fags calculations that is 900k, 450k males from the dairy herd + 450k from the beef herd, give or take what beef heifers go in calf and what goes as u16 months or gets exported. Makes the 30k a week kill look very small. But the beef heifers going in calf will be balanced by culls.

Robson99

blue5000 wrote: »

http://www.icbf.com/?p=6243

Fair spike for 30 months down the track from feb-apr this year. By my rough pack of fags calculations that is 900k, 450k males from the dairy herd + 450k from the beef herd, give or take what beef heifers go in calf and what goes as u16 months or gets exported. Makes the 30k a week kill look very small. But the beef heifers going in calf will be balanced by culls.

Going by that from July on next year will be a disaster

CloughCasey1

Robson99 wrote: »

Going by that from July on next year will be a disaster

Same was said 12mts ago!

blue5000

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Same was said 12mts ago!

I read you and raise you by 87,000

http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/over-87000-extra-dairy-calves-born-so-far-this-spring/#

Bass Reeves

Robson99 wrote: »

Going by that from July on next year will be a disaster

It will be a disaster from much earlier than July. I think the figures are that there are 200K more cattle in 2015 than in 2014. That is equivilent to 4K cattle/week. The figures above show it higher than that. Cattle do not magically appear or dissappear. Very little 2015 cattle exported. A lot of cattle not exported thsi year or last. Some lads thing that Turkey will solve the problem. Like Croker I doubt it. There is no way that 4-5K cattle/week will be exported.

Earlier in the year I taught that 3.5/kg was a good guess at a base for most of next year. Now I am not that optimistic. The real issue is who will finish cattle this winter. Loads of lads myself included will leave the shed empty. Putting numbers through with cheap grain will not be the answer to making a profit.

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Same was said 12mts ago!

No anyone looking at the figures would have said from September/October depending on throughput. At present it looks like cattle will be tight until January.