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Dairy Chit Chat- Please read Mod note in post #1

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,749 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    kowtow wrote: »
    anyone got any idea how long milk recording results take from recording to showing up on ICBF (or whatever)?
    7-10 days if any longer ring them. There was a problem in August when emails were not getting through


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Anyone know the concentration of Formalin and Peracetic acid for foot bathing cows with mortellaro?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,705 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    kowtow wrote: »
    anyone got any idea how long milk recording results take from recording to showing up on ICBF (or whatever)?

    3/4 days progressive genetics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Anyone know the concentration of Formalin and Peracetic acid for foot bathing cows with mortellaro?

    I put two litres into fifty of water of formalin. Not sure of the concentration of the formalin.

    Edit. 35% formaldehyde.

    Never used peracetic acid so no idea. If they have it bad get some lincomycin powder and an extra man into the parlour. Powerhose feet and spray lincomycin using one of those 10l garden sprayers. The ones with the pump come carry handle on top. You could put linco in the footpaths if you're trying to cut your tax bill but I don't think it's as effective.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 811 ✭✭✭yewtree


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    3/4 days progressive genetics

    thats a lot quicker than we get results here could be two weeks, using DIY with progressive.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    Mooooo wrote: »
    How much of the herd will be able to eat at onetime KG? The last time we added feed space there was a decent improvement but shir more cows were added then so back to square one. i know with winter milk and in particular heifers milking its more important but when/if i ever get round to extending the sheds ill try to double the feed space

    We will now have 150% capacity for feeding and 130% cubicles


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,749 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    yewtree wrote: »
    thats a lot quicker than we get results here could be two weeks, using DIY with progressive.

    It depends on the delivery driver. We were on once a week collection here for a while and results where taking ages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Anyone know the concentration of Formalin and Peracetic acid for foot bathing cows with mortellaro?

    Start with 5% form 1% p
    Max 180 cows through 1 mix
    Reduce form to 3% as you regain control
    Bath for 3 milkings each week for 2 weeks and then to 2 per week for control

    We've stopped using Form and pere, use an off the shelf product called Healmax. 2 litres per 200 water for 1 milking per week. We also keep some in Rose sprayer to treat clinical cows as lame group go throug parlour


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    yewtree wrote: »
    thats a lot quicker than we get results here could be two weeks, using DIY with progressive.

    5 days for scc by text, 6 days email to computer and 7 days by post from Munster. DIY.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Are many of ye doing diy recording? Stopped this year but will take it up again. Used to use the waikito metres are the diy ones a better job


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭the_blue_oval


    We will now have 150% capacity for feeding and 130% cubicles

    How many gallons of slurry storage do you allow per cow with the outdoor cubicles/lagoon set up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,447 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    How's solids?
    14.7l
    4.34p
    5.27bf
    On course to do 490 kilos. Few less than last year but v happy seeing as a lot of heifers milking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Signpost


    Anyone able to explain to me what is gained from Genomic testing? Unfortunately the ICBF link to explain it is broken and can't seem to find a copy of the PDF they are trying to link to online - /services/genomic/Genomic_Service_Help.pdf
    Outside of what it is, can anyone able to make a compelling argument for doing it or not doing it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    18.7 L
    3.9p
    4.24bf
    4kg 14.5% p meal.
    Dunno will they hold. Dry few days will help but back walking to silage fields and as the go on road I must hold them till finished milking and go ahead of them. If it stays dry may be able to get back in to wetter ground for a few days otherwise may house by night next week to stretch things out a bit. Testing next week, if I don't go clear ill dry off a good few culls straight away and sell to feed lot. If I do go clear will sell a few culls and 25 odd weanlings


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 811 ✭✭✭yewtree


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Are many of ye doing diy recording? Stopped this year but will take it up again. Used to use the waikito metres are the diy ones a better job

    Its would wreck your head sometimes between meters not draining and my personal favourite air hole blocked.
    Often think it would be easier to go back to maual recording


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Signpost wrote: »
    Anyone able to explain to me what is gained from Genomic testing? Unfortunately the ICBF link to explain it is broken and can't seem to find a copy of the PDF they are trying to link to online - /services/genomic/Genomic_Service_Help.pdf
    Outside of what it is, can anyone able to make a compelling argument for doing it or not doing it?
    Iirc, it costs 22 euro if you do all the elegible animals from the one year. It will give a far better reliability to your EBI figures and allow you to easily select your better/higher EBI replacements if you are going to sell some. I think it can also sort out any mistakes in using the wrong sire on a cow like 2 cows getting the wrong straws in a group.

    Your future EBI figures will also be more accurate with a known genomic base to compare other animals to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,705 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    How's solids?
    14.7l
    4.34p
    5.27bf
    On course to do 490 kilos. Few less than last year but v happy seeing as a lot of heifers milking

    20.6 ltrs
    4.68 fat
    3.91 p
    Scc 58
    Urea 45
    3.3 kg meal *grass
    Afc 1201
    Per cow 460


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Start with 5% form 1% p
    Max 180 cows through 1 mix
    Reduce form to 3% as you regain control
    Bath for 3 milkings each week for 2 weeks and then to 2 per week for control

    We've stopped using Form and pere, use an off the shelf product called Healmax. 2 litres per 200 water for 1 milking per week. We also keep some in Rose sprayer to treat clinical cows as lame group go throug parlour

    5% by volume? Or 5% concentration. At two litres of the formalin solution we use per 50l of water you're getting a concentration of 1.4%. Is the peracetic acid a good job? How much per litre/cow is the healmax? We generally put a few kg of bluestone into the baths as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭RightTurnClyde


    I'm using this
    image.jpeg
    at 5 % vol

    Costs 40€ per 25L drum

    KG, what does the peracetic acid do. Do you use it every time footbathing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭RightTurnClyde


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    20.6 ltrs
    4.68 fat
    3.91 p
    Scc 58
    Urea 45
    3.3 kg meal *grass
    Afc 1201
    Per cow 460

    18.8 litres
    4.75 f
    3.85p
    73 Scc
    3.75 meal


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    We will now have 150% capacity for feeding and 130% cubicles


    Is that because of future capacity or because it will optimise performance? Or both depending on how things play out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Iirc, it costs 22 euro if you do all the elegible animals from the one year. It will give a far better reliability to your EBI figures and allow you to easily select your better/higher EBI replacements if you are going to sell some. I think it can also sort out any mistakes in using the wrong sire on a cow like 2 cows getting the wrong straws in a group.


    Does that mean it will give an EBI etc. to a cow when you aren't exactly perfectly sure who the daddy is. Or what breed he might have been?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    kowtow wrote: »
    Iirc, it costs 22 euro if you do all the elegible animals from the one year. It will give a far better reliability to your EBI figures and allow you to easily select your better/higher EBI replacements if you are going to sell some. I think it can also sort out any mistakes in using the wrong sire on a cow like 2 cows getting the wrong straws in a group.


    Does that mean it will give an EBI etc. to a cow when you aren't exactly perfectly sure who the daddy is. Or what breed he might have been?
    If it was an Ai sire they should be able to tell you what sire the cow has.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    kowtow wrote: »
    Is that because of future capacity or because it will optimise performance? Or both depending on how things play out?

    It's because in my experience when you build the correct size within 2 years it's too small. Future proofing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    kowtow wrote: »
    Does that mean it will give an EBI etc. to a cow when you aren't exactly perfectly sure who the daddy is. Or what breed he might have been?

    As Mooo said, if the sire is from AI and also no more than 6.25% other than friesian/holstein so nearly pure bred.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    I'm using this
    image.jpeg
    at 5 % vol

    Costs 40€ per 25L drum

    KG, what does the peracetic acid do. Do you use it every time footbathing

    http://www.nadis.org.uk/bulletins/lameness-control-in-dairy-herds/part-6-foot-bathing.aspx

    We now use Healmax weekly. 20 litre drum of concentrate is €200.

    2 litres per 200 litres water 200 cows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    It's because in my experience when you build the correct size within 2 years it's too small. Future proofing.

    Quite.

    Just finishing a shed here which is already going to be too small.

    Mind you, I'm a glutton for hardship.

    What do you aim for as a final cubicle ratio? 105% ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,282 ✭✭✭alps


    Dissapointing Scanning Result...

    We have 6 empty 19/20month heifers (out of 55). Normally all in calf so this is a bit of a bummer...vet not inclined to look for a reason and says we won't find one...

    So..any suggestions on what we do with them?

    Any idea what they would make at the mart? Standard strong up to weight HO/Fr X...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Anyone have any thoughts on where to spread/ not spread several thousand gallons of parlour washings with a significant quantity of waste milk in them?

    Basically a concrete tank that had had little slurry but several thousand litres of spare milk through the season.... will be a pretty acidic mix although also diluted by rain.

    Lash it out on paddocks as we close them?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    If you have space you could Ai and sell just after they calve, have heard of heifers calving mid/ late summer and being exported for circa 1500. Don't know what they'd make as maidens at the minute tbh. Don't know would fattening them be of much benefit as they still probably grow a frame and may take time to finish


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