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Water John

Is Kowtow willing to take her on? Are you gifted in dealing with difficult bovines? Go on, take the challenge!

Dawggone

Water John wrote: »

Is Kowtow willing to take her on? Are you gifted in dealing with difficult bovines? Go on, take the challenge!

Maybe he's expanding his artisan food portfolio into 'kickin' burgers.

Dawggone

Was in Chantilly for the Arc weekend...if dairy did business like Ballydoyle...

kowtow

Water John wrote:

Is Kowtow willing to take her on? Are you gifted in dealing with difficult bovines? Go on, take the challenge!

Gifted no.

But I find the cows feel obliged to behave with me in the way adults do around toddlers

And as lib cow controlled parlour feeding helps.

Water John

Distraction, works on females, you say.

kowtow

Water John wrote:

Distraction, works on females, you say.

Not for me, they still kick with both legs.

farmertipp

mahoney_j wrote: »

Any reports from Lisduff sale yesterday ??,meant to go but couldn't make it

Good sale saw in calf heifer make 4 k . Many over 2 k calves made up to 1100

mahoney_j

farmertipp wrote: »

Good sale saw in calf heifer make 4 k . Many over 2 k calves made up to 1100

One of the finest herds in the country

kowtow

Water John wrote:

Is Kowtow willing to take her on? .... Go on, take the challenge!

Cant say im not tempted but Whelan isn't selling her very hard.

Maybe we need a photo, where possible I'm a sucker for buying on looks.

Mooooo

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Nearly there

How much of the herd will be able to eat at onetime KG? The last time we added feed space there was a decent improvement but shir more cows were added then so back to square one. i know with winter milk and in particular heifers milking its more important but when/if i ever get round to extending the sheds ill try to double the feed space

Mooooo

Dawggone wrote: »

If you have problems with the face of the maize pit heating, spray it with propionic acid. Simples.

Heating not such an issue just easier to deal with a small heap and throwing back plastic than the main pit on a windy day also could end up feeding it the week or two after its pitted so allows main pit to ferment properly. Propionic acid could be handy in spring when buffering tho, thanks for tip.

Dawggone

Mooooo wrote: »

Heating not such an issue just easier to deal with a small heap and throwing back plastic than the main pit on a windy day also could end up feeding it the week or two after its pitted so allows main pit to ferment properly. Propionic acid could be handy in spring when buffering tho, thanks for tip.

Careful when feeding unfermentated maize...no problems in feeding it, once you know what to do...

Mooooo

Dawggone wrote: »

Careful when feeding unfermentated maize...no problems in feeding it, once you know what to do...

did it last year and worked out alrite, fresh mix with straw and silage in the wagon, wouldnt have been a big percentage of diet as cows were still out by day also

farmertipp

mahoney_j wrote: »

One of the finest herds in the country

+1 genuine herd and owners.

Dawggone

Mooooo wrote: »

did it last year and worked out alrite, fresh mix with straw and silage in the wagon, wouldnt have been a big percentage of diet as cows were still out by day also

Ooohh dodgy!
Whole lota chemical reactions bubbling around there.

Once it's a very small part of the diet I suppose you'd escape the worst of it.

Timmaay

How long before its safe to feed away without any issues?

Dawggone

Timmaay wrote: »

How long before its safe to feed away without any issues?

Three weeks Tim, however it can also be fed straight from the harvester.

GrasstoMilk

How's silage stocks everyone?
20% extra here for a 4 mth winter (udually 3mths
15th Nov - 1st/2nd week in Feb)
Maize still to come in and have a fodder crop there.

Hate seeing an empty yard of fodder

mahoney_j

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

How's silage stocks everyone?
20% extra here for a 4 mth winter (udually 3mths
15th Nov - 1st/2nd week in Feb)
Maize still to come in and have a fodder crop there.

Hate seeing an empty yard of fodder

Think we all need to rethink how long our winter is/could/will be .even here in dry land winter could be any time from late October to early December up to March .and then there's summer droughts to buffering feed through spring /autumn .every yard needs at least 10/15% top quality silage constantly I. The yard throughout the year

GrasstoMilk

mahoney_j wrote: »

Think we all need to rethink how long our winter is/could/will be .even here in dry land winter could be any time from late October to early December up to March .and then there's summer droughts to buffering feed through spring /autumn .every yard needs at least 10/15% top quality silage constantly I. The yard throughout the year

I'd say I've up on 35% extra which is great.

Timmaay

We have carried over at least a pit of silage every winter since I can remember (except 2013 when we sold some ha), and I wouldn't expect any different this winter. One of the neighbours can sell silage out of the pit also if I did get stuck.

whelan2

Better to be looking at it than looking for it

freedominacup

Timmaay wrote: »

We have carried over at least a pit of silage every winter since I can remember (except 2013 when we sold some ha), and I wouldn't expect any different this winter. One of the neighbours can sell silage out of the pit also if I did get stuck.

We'll be tight enough this year. Options aplenty though. Bales everywhere. Drought wasn't too bad around here this year. Grain is cheap. Diet feeder ensures you squeeze max from limited stocks. We'll be fine for anything up to a month above normal. After that squeaky bum time. I'll need to tie down a supply of extra forage for next year. Cow numbers expected to be 20% up again with a similar lift in youngstock. Buildings going to be next problem.

Mooooo

Should be ok, have a good few bales from last year and redstart there for 30 or so yearlings.Pit silage quality is likely to be back on other years but quantity similar and we only made 60 bales this year. Locked up so if we dont go clear things could get tight, but with a good few empty cows by the looks of things i could factory a shot of them early in winter depending on how weather goes from now on. Supposed to be dry for the week from wed on so should help, we are on the line with that weather front, wind and heavyish showers at the min but if it could stay west of us it would be a massive help. The extra calves are tearing thru grass as well, will more than likely house spring incalf heifers in a week or two mainly as they are the biggest group outside of milkers and they are bawling whenever they see you these days. Will give a chance to go thru the bales as well see what they are like

Mooooo

freedominacup wrote: »

We'll be tight enough this year. Options aplenty though. Bales everywhere. Drought wasn't too bad around here this year. Grain is cheap. Diet feeder ensures you squeeze max from limited stocks. We'll be fine for anything up to a month above normal. After that squeaky bum time. I'll need to tie down a supply of extra forage for next year. Cow numbers expected to be 20% up again with a similar lift in youngstock. Buildings going to be next problem.

Buildings an issue here at the min, hence the redstart, will either sink a tank in outside yard or build over existing over ground tank at home, dunno when but the outside yard option is looking easiest at the min

freedominacup

Mooooo wrote: »

Buildings an issue here at the min, hence the redstart, will either sink a tank in outside yard or build over existing over ground tank at home, dunno when but the outside yard option is looking easiest at the min

Digger expected here presently. Which means fcuk knows when. Just for extra storage really but will delay housing calves. Building covers for them atm.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Some details on the 2nd reduction round, same as first but you can only apply for one

http://irishfarmersmonthly.com/986-second-round-of-milk-supply-reduction-scheme

darragh_haven

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Some details on the 2nd reduction round, same as first but you can only apply for one

http://irishfarmersmonthly.com/986-second-round-of-milk-supply-reduction-scheme

Is the milk reduction scheme Europe-wide?

Buford T. Justice XIX

darragh_haven wrote: »

Is the milk reduction scheme Europe-wide?

Yeah.

Mooooo

Mooooo wrote: »

Should be ok, have a good few bales from last year and redstart there for 30 or so yearlings.Pit silage quality is likely to be back on other years but quantity similar and we only made 60 bales this year. Locked up so if we dont go clear things could get tight, but with a good few empty cows by the looks of things i could factory a shot of them early in winter depending on how weather goes from now on. Supposed to be dry for the week from wed on so should help, we are on the line with that weather front, wind and heavyish showers at the min but if it could stay west of us it would be a massive help. The extra calves are tearing thru grass as well, will more than likely house spring incalf heifers in a week or two mainly as they are the biggest group outside of milkers and they are bawling whenever they see you these days. Will give a chance to go thru the bales as well see what they are like

Not on the line of the current weather front anymore, pissing down now, it'll be off to the sacrifice paddock 2moro...